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moXJO said:
I think libs are gone next election. The government never felt cohesive.

Labor has kept themselves small enough targets. Bill basically stands on the fence on every issue.
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He's a lurker
 
SirRumpole said:
So was John Howard.

He had bugger all policy and beat Keating on the grounds that Keating was arrogant.
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Keating was dethroned because he was portrayed as betraying his wife by divorce and a concurrent viscous rumour he was a closet gay..... who would have put that one around .... those who wanted payback for "two blokes and a cocker spaniel" don't make a family and the new breed of Abbottesque Labor hating Liberals and News Ltd editors.
 
Tisme said:
Keating was dethroned because he was portrayed as betraying his wife by divorce and a concurrent viscous rumour he was a closet gay..... who would have put that one around .... those who wanted payback for "two blokes and a cocker spaniel" don't make a family and the new breed of Abbottesque Labor hating Liberals and News Ltd editors.
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I never heard that "closet gay" rumour. Maybe I just didn't read News Ltd enough.
 
SirRumpole said:
I never heard that "closet gay" rumour. Maybe I just didn't read News Ltd enough.
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Did you vote Liberal ?:D

I voted Keating because he was good for business and I admired his obvious intelligence. I guess I'm not the great bellwether I'd like to think I was.... the latest failure being the plebiscite. I remind myself of Boris Badenov and Wrongway Peachfuzz montage when it comes to social fads.;)
 
Ex NAB executive staying loyal to her roots ( I wonder if her dirty linen will be exposed)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-...e-governmen-wrong-on-royal-commission/9685012

"
O'Dwyer: I've answered your question.

Cassidy: No you haven't.

O'Dwyer: I have answered your question.

Cassidy: You haven't said whether you were wrong or right to delay it.

O'Dwyer: I've said we've established it. We have in fact established it.

Cassidy: You have established it, but it took a long time coming. Were you wrong?

O'Dwyer: Well let me put it to you this way. We would not have done all those other things that we would otherwise have done to address these actions."
 
Wasn't the idea of Robocalls to reduce staff in CentreLink ?

Now that the government has announced another 1250 people for the CentreLink call centre one would have to assume that Robocalls are another Turnbull government failure.
 
SirRumpole said:
Wasn't the idea of Robocalls to reduce staff in CentreLink ?

Now that the government has announced another 1250 people for the CentreLink call centre one would have to assume that Robocalls are another Turnbull government failure.
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The LNP never hand out carrots unless there is a stick. Aren't they going after recipients who have been over paid?
 
Tisme said:
Aren't they going after recipients who have been over paid?
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That's what Robocall was all about, using automated software to extract money from over paid clients, the point being that it was supposed to reduce the number of Centrelink staff. It apparently hasn't worked as they are now putting on extra staff to handle the complaints generated by Robocalls.
 
SirRumpole said:
That's what Robocall was all about, using automated software to extract money from over paid clients, the point being that it was supposed to reduce the number of Centrelink staff. It apparently hasn't worked as they are now putting on extra staff to handle the complaints generated by Robocalls.
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So it's backlog, not actually a growth in welfare "clients" ?
 
PZ99 said:
I think the removal of payroll tax is better than both even if it is up to the states.

It's a magic bullet in reducing labour costs without bludgeoning your staff IMO.
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Yes, you could be right but those tax cuts don't flow through to consumers as would personal tax cuts.

How come the States got away with keeping payroll tax ? I thought it was supposed to go when the GST came in.
 
SirRumpole said:
I think it's the current clients complaining about being having benefits cut back rather than extra clients.
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ABS data shows a 2% decline in average household income to <$110k. Those with main source of income from pension and govt has risen from 23% in 2006 to around 24%.
 
SirRumpole said:
Yes, you could be right but those tax cuts don't flow through to consumers as would personal tax cuts.

How come the States got away with keeping payroll tax ? I thought it was supposed to go when the GST came in.
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LOL, yeah. Along with all the other taxes that were supposed to go including stamp duty.
But... the treasures of the states became heroes of budget surpluses instead.

Payroll tax does get altered every now and then for economic stimulatory but of course that applies to any other tax including P.A.Y.E.

I just think payroll tax is an archaic and unnecessary burden on business and if we accept the idea of tax as a disincentive then it's little more than a nonsensical barrier to employment.
 
Has anyone else heard about the $3.8 bil give away to irrigators for zero water return?

Surprised it's not front page............well maybe not to much infighting to make room
 

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