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Israel committing Genocide in Gaza


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Hamas has vowed it will not release the hostages it seized during its October 7 attack on Israel until the Gaza war ends, as it mourned the death of its leader Yahya Sinwar.
The killing of Sinwar, the mastermind of the deadliest attack in Israeli history, had raised hopes of a turning point in the war, including for families of the Israeli hostages and Gazans enduring a dire humanitarian crisis.
Turkey’s foreign minister on Friday offered his “condolences” to Hamas officials at a meeting in Istanbul following the death of Sinwar.
Hakan Fidan “received the president of the Hamas Shura Council Mohammed Ismail Darwish and members of the political bureau” to whom “he presented his condolences for the martyr Yahya Sinwar,” the ministry said in a statement.ach/js/sbkIran, Hezbollah, Afghanistan’s Taliban government and Yemen’s Houthi rebels all mourned the death of Sinwar, vowing continued support for their Palestinian ally Hamas.
At a demonstration in Yemen’s capital Sanaa, resident Mutahhar al-Khatib said Sinwar’s death “was shocking news”.
“But if Sinwar is martyred, there will be 10 more in his place,” he said. The Palestine Liberation Organization also expressed its condolences over the “martyrdom of the great national leader Yahya Sinwar”.


Supporters of Yemen's Houthis gather with pictures of Hamas slain leader Yahya Sinwar during a rally held on Friday in the Houthi-controlled capital Sanaa. Picture: Mohammed Huwais / AFP
 
What is that supposed to prove?

It only shows more hostility generated against Israel and more terrorists being made.

If these terrorists start operating against Israel's 'friends' around the world, all the West will be dragged into a conflict that has nothing to do with us.
 

That sounds like Chamberlains view in 1938, where did that get the world?

 
It was Sinwar who, back in 2021, began actively planning the October 7 massacre of 1200 Israelis. As the Hamas chief in Gaza, he was a hardliner who won an internal battle against more moderate voices within Hamas to guide the group towards violence rather than negotiation.
He told his fellow terror-sponsor Iran that he believed a major attack by Hamas on Israel would lead to the demise of the Jewish state within two years.
Central to Sinwar’s brutal calculation was that Israel would respond with deadly force to any attack by Hamas and that the highly urbanised nature of Gaza would guarantee Israel’s war on Hamas also would kill tens of thousands of civilians, staining Israel’s reputation around the world.
Sinwar did not care about the lives or the future of Palestinians living in Gaza and was happy to see them sacrificed to realise his long-term ambition of destroying Israel.
But he died having failed abysmally in his aims. A year after Sinwar’s massacre, all he achieved was to damage Israel’s international reputation and spark an ugly revival of anti-Semitism in the West, including in Australia.


At a rally in Gaza City in 2021, Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar holds up a Kalashnikov-wielding child of an Al-Qassam Brigades fighter killed in fighting with Israel. Picture: AFP

Yet history will record Sinwar as having done more to set back the cause of the Palestinian people and their search for a Palestinian state than anyone this century.
He died having overseen the almost complete destruction of his beloved Hamas as a viable fighting force. This broken group can never again mount a major terror assault on Israel or threaten Israel’s existence. Its military future is limited to that of a guerrilla force, capable of small scale hit-and-run attacks against any occupying Israeli forces but nothing more.
Politically, Sinwar’s actions have ensured that Hamas will never again govern Gaza as it did until October 7. And it will never again play a political role in helping determine outcomes in the West Bank, where the corrupt Palestinian Authority rules.
Sinwar’s miscalculations do not end in Gaza. Hamas’s massacre led Hezbollah in Lebanon to make the foolish decision to launch a continuous low-grade war against northern Israel in solidarity with Hamas.
That tactic has, quite literally, blown up in Hezbollah’s face.
The Iranian-sponsored terror group is on the back foot, having provoked an Israeli ground invasion and a ferocious Israeli assault on its leadership.
 
I took his ramblings as a positive..
- there's no genocide. (thanks, btw, to all the hamas parrots) as "new kids" will take over
 
Apologists for genocide are low on the spectrum of morality.
It becomes a matter of history as to who is being wiped out as the pricipal consideration relates only to the act and those responsible. Nations aiding and abetting, like Australia, the UK and USA, will also be judged - like Germany - to be on the wrong side of history.
Those in denial of what is occurring in Gaza in front of our eyes every day now are as foolish as those who with full knowledge chose to elect, inter alia, a convicted felon, adjudged rapist, insurrectionist, fear-mongering racisist, and anti science conspiracist, who also wants to remove the rights of women to control what happens to their body by criminalising such behaviour!
For more detail on Israel's actions, here's the UN's Special Rapporteur
 

International Criminal Court issues arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu, Yoav Gallant and Mohammed Deif​



"The warrants are for alleged crimes against humanity and war crimes committed during the Israel-Gaza war.

The ICC said there were reasonable grounds to believe Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant "bear responsibility for … the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts."

Rot in hell Netanyahu.
 
Trump will probably shake his hand at some time.
 
Who elected them? Another part of the the world government apparatus and the overlordship of lawyers. Law is one of the most undemanding degrees and professions. Where were they before when Hamas was committing atrocities against Israel? Why don't they indict Putin or Xi Jinping? Is it because Israel is always the easy target? Hamas is virtually destroyed and now they indict them to show their equal handedness? It's none if their business in their f'g robes and mansions safe from the consequences of the conflict.
 

Maybe you should contact Justice Michael Lee, and have a discussion.

In Justice Lee’s powerful address, delivered the night after a car was torched and buildings were vandalised with horrendous anti-Semitic slurs in Sydney’s eastern suburbs, Justice Lee said some Australians do not understand the “complex narrative” of the Middle East conflict and instead prefer “historically flawed” reports from parts of the media.

 
Regarding the OP,
I would never have believed that ASF General Chat could sink so low.
The Gaza war is over tomorrow - if Hamas releases the Israeli hostages.

If ASF is hosting this kind of OP hate speech, I'm heading for the exit.

If poster frugal.rock had any decency, she would resign from ASF.

Please cancel my membership Joe - it's me or frugal.

In parting, my best to decent posters like Wayne and sptrawler.
 
I would never have believed that ASF General Chat could sink this low.

The Gaza war is over tomorrow, if Hamas releases the Israeli hostages.

If ASF is hosting this kind of hate speech, I'm heading for the exit.

Please cancel my membership Joe.

Stick around Logique, better that the rational people hang around and share rational thoughts.
 
"how will the useful fools in the West who saw Palestinians as natural allies of our Aborigines, of homosexuals worldwide and to prosperous middle class Western university students, explain their embrace of a neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic, Islamist death cult?"

Good question.

Western journalists, academics and politicians have got much of their analysis of Israel wrong since the October 7 massacre last year.
Journalists who had no clue the Palestinians had been offered and had rejected a two-state solution many times warned the Middle East would be engulfed by a war Israel could not win when Hezbollah finally attacked.
They were utterly wrong. Just as tiny Israel beat its Arab attackers in 1948, 1967 and 1973 it has destroyed Hamas in Gaza and humiliated Hezbollah in only a couple of months of limited action inside Lebanon.
Remember, Trump formally proposed a two-state solution in 2020. His appointment of hardline Israel backer Mike Huckabee as ambassador is likely a bargaining chip.
Should such a scenario play out, how will the useful fools in the West who saw Palestinians as natural allies of our Aborigines, of homosexuals worldwide and to prosperous middle class Western university students, explain their embrace of a neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic, Islamist death cult?

 

 

I didn't see this until now.

I think "hate speech" is a little strong. It is a strongly worded polemic that is clearly unapologetic. Whether or not you agree with it, I don't believe it is over the line.

Those who disagree should post in reply, presenting their own perspectives and any evidence in favour of their positions.

You can't have a serious discussion about a controversial topic like this without both sides being presented forcefully. I think it is too much to expect emotion not to creep into people's posts given the nature of the topic, which is very divisive and evokes strong feelings on both sides.

But it is possible to discuss any topic rationally and intelligently, and that is what I would like to see in this thread.
 
People are so touchy these days. Must be political/tribalism burnout
 
The experience of an Arab Muslim girl, living in Israel.

 
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