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ThingyMajiggy · 7 January 2017

Lemoonjuice · 8 January 2017

Clearly changed my mind, life goes on right ?

Do you know what Gann fans are ? Well anyways I heard about people paying $2k GBP which is $3,300 AUD for a piece of **** indicator that really does not do anything.

People are paying stupid amounts of money for stupid products and I have a great product. I am not sure about you but an extra $3,300 AUD once in a while will not hurt anyone ?
Multiple streams of income never hurt anyone. You might diversify into other stocks or maybe move to the fx market, I am selling my strategy. Each to their own.

Yes correct, Pepper gives me a better deal for my clients and IC markets gives me a better deal for my own accounts.

Anything else that needs to be picked at ?

Thanks Chuck.

Lemoonjuice · 8 January 2017

Lemoonjuice said:
hhaha!!

I am not here to advertise training or anything, was just looking for other traders who are doing what I am doing.

So far after posting this same thing on multiple websites I have found no one.

If no one is doing what I am doing, then selling my product is the next step.

I just want to be friends why must people pick at every little detail. There is so much potential for people to learn something from what I am doing except they want to judge it all and reject it. Whatever

Lemoonjuice · 8 January 2017

minwa said:
So you've changed your mind and started charging ? Instant rich in trading not working too well ?

$1.25 p/w going to make me mega rich. Clearly destroying peoples banks right there for my own personal gain.

minwa · 8 January 2017

Lemoonjuice said:
Yes correct, Pepper gives me a better deal for my clients and IC markets gives me a better deal for my own accounts.

Then why need to lie saying that you use Pepperstone yourself on your site ?

Lemoonjuice said:
I just want to be friends why must people pick at every little detail.

Every salesman wants to be every customer's friend lol. Misrepresenting about which broker you use yourself is hardly just "picking at little detail". It's outright lying for financial gain and I don't think friends appreciate that. You say you are selling great stuff, what's the need for the affiliate marketing, if you truly recommended Pepperstone you would've done so without an affiliate link that pays you.

Lemoonjuice said:
There is so much potential for people to learn something from what I am doing except they want to judge it all and reject it. Whatever

I think I just figured it out... If its free its crap, its if paid its a scam. Am I on point ?

It's a scam when all these add up:
- You say you are not selling anything but later do
- Lie about which broker you are using for affiliate gains
- You show a small piece of gains of few thousand %, then close the system down. Now you are using that small section of results to advertise on your site.
- "Instant rich, guaranteed profits". No, just no. If that is so you would not be selling.

MOST IMPORTANTLY PLEASE STATE YOUR AFSL NUMBER. Don't think you are going to get away without one even when you title "donation" in your paypal link. This is one sincere warning before ASIC catches up with you.

Lemoonjuice · 8 January 2017

I did not know about the afs license as I only thought it was something for investing other peoples money. If I sell a strategy as a one off sale do I still need that ? I will look into it.

I am very limited to my knowledge outside the Forex charts. I found my groove and never looked back so you clearly know more about everything then I do. If you where not such an ******** I would really value your input.

I came here with the intentions to make friends who are doing the same thing as me. Being self employed working from home I have limited interaction with people who are in the same business as me. By posting here I was hoping people from Australia who are doing the same as me would respond. And all I found was more people who did not know how to trade Fx, so I moved on and got over it.

From the start of the post you took it all the wrong way and I am sorry it came across like that. You have not even spoke to me about my strategy or anything like that its all just accusing me of whatever.

From the start I had not even thought about creating a website or selling a product but being a money driven person I will take it all.

The deal with all brokers affiliates is you cannot join your own group. I can get everyone a great deal on Pepperstone which I then refund most of your commissions back into the account. Then IC markets gives me the same deal as what everyone else gets on Pepperstone. I am trying to do a good thing!

"If that is so you would not be selling." - Why not make more money on the side ?

Lemoonjuice · 8 January 2017

I am not telling people "WHAT" to buy I am showing them "HOW" to buy. All my posts are after the fact proving it near impossible to provide "WHAT". My thought was people are paying a subscription for my blog about "HOW".

Can you please show me what part is directed to me.

*** quote
provide financial product advice to clients for example, giving a recommendation to clients or the general public about which financial product they should purchase.
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make a market for a financial product for example, where you regularly quote prices at which people can buy or sell financial products.
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http://asic.gov.au/for-finance-professionals/afs-licensees/do-you-need-an-afs-licence/

Lemoonjuice · 8 January 2017

minwa said:
MOST IMPORTANTLY PLEASE STATE YOUR AFSL***

"clients wishing to better understand the financial products or strategies available to them."

minwa · 8 January 2017

Lemoonjuice said:
If you where not such an ******** I would really value your input.

If you did not display most of the signs of a fraud I would not have been. Still can't figure that 8 letter word out ! Starting with A I'm guessing but none of my guesses goes to the 8th letter.

Lemoonjuice said:
From the start of the post you took it all the wrong way and I am sorry it came across like that. You have not even spoke to me about my strategy or anything like that its all just accusing me of whatever.

From the start I had not even thought about creating a website or selling a product but being a money driven person I will take it all.

Nothing for me to comment about your strategy, others have said it of the dangers of pyramiding and its unsustainability as you have shown.

Lemoonjuice said:
The deal with all brokers affiliates is you cannot join your own group. I can get everyone a great deal on Pepperstone which I then refund most of your commissions back into the account. Then IC markets gives me the same deal as what everyone else gets on Pepperstone. I am trying to do a good thing!

Great deal on Pepperstone ? So you are telling me if I sign up through your affiliate link I will get a better deal (lower comms) than if I just open an account with them on their home page ? Why lie (saying you use Pepperstone) when you are trying to do a good thing ?

Lemoonjuice said:
"If that is so you would not be selling." - Why not make more money on the side ?

You need to sell for money "how to make money" - do you see the conflict there ?

Lemoonjuice said:
I am not telling people "WHAT" to buy I am showing them "HOW" to buy. All my posts are after the fact proving it near impossible to provide "WHAT". My thought was people are paying a subscription for my blog about "HOW".

Can you please show me what part is directed to me.

provide financial product advice to clients for example, giving a recommendation to clients or the general public about which financial product they should purchase.

Education of speculation in derivatives falls under that part. You just mentioned earlier you are selling your strategy. Note the "Financial product advice to clients". The giving reco was just an example they gave. You are still providing financial product advice in trading education for fees.

Have a look at https://www.learntotrade.com.au/ . They do not provide any recommendations/managed accounts, same as you. Yet they require a AFSL.

The Content has been prepared by Learn to Trade Pty Ltd (ABN: 99138178542 AFSL 339557) for general information and educational purposes only and is not (and cannot be construed or relied upon as) personal advice nor as an offer to buy/sell/subscribe to any of the financial products mentioned herein.

General Info and educational purposes - and they require a AFSL. They would not bother with one if it wasn't needed. It's costly.

Lemoonjuice · 8 January 2017

minwa said:
Great deal on Pepperstone ? So you are telling me if I sign up through your affiliate link I will get a better deal (lower comms) than if I just open an account with them on their home page ? Why lie (saying you use Pepperstone) when you are trying to do a good thing ?

You need to sell for money "how to make money" - do you see the conflict there ?

I still do not see the problem still In selling my strategy for money, honestly there must be a better argument then... if you already have money why need more ?! Try tell Trump that making more money is dumb.

Yes you will get a better deal if you signed straight away with Pepper, I am level T2 - T3. If I could join my own group I would trade with Pepper.

Lemoonjuice · 8 January 2017

minwa said:
If you did not display most of the signs of a fraud I would not have been. Still can't figure that 8 letter word out ! Starting with A I'm guessing but none of my guesses goes to the 8th letter.

You decided within my first post I was a scam. Your mind will easily ignore everything else.

Lemoonjuice · 8 January 2017

Started my AFS licence application. As I am a sole application with a limited product the price is dramatically reduced. Thanks for your help / abuse it has been very constructive.

See YOU in 3months!

* Is this just an Australian thing? I have seen thousands of strategies for sale for $30 ish, not a chance they have something like this? Is it the same as a E-book ?

minwa · 9 January 2017

Lemoonjuice said:
Yes you will get a better deal if you signed straight away with Pepper, I am level T2 - T3. If I could join my own group I would trade with Pepper.

If that is the case why not state that instead of saying YOU PERSONALLY trade with them. I just see no mention of lower commissions on http://pepperstoneaffiliates.com/ by signing up through someone else. I will contact Pepper and see what better deal I will be getting compared to my own default Pepper account.

Lemoonjuice said:
You decided within my first post I was a scam. Your mind will easily ignore everything else.

I only called you scam after you started charging, before that I didn't. The points still stand:

- You say you are not selling anything but later do (we call them shills.)
- Lie about which broker you are using for affiliate gains (even if people get a better deal, why not state that instead of lying ?)
- You show a small piece of gains of few thousand %, then close the system down. Now you are using that small section of results to advertise on your site.
- "Instant rich, guaranteed profits". (no serious trader I or anyone here has ever met ever use those words in trading) If that is so you would not be selling. (OK, I get your point that you are picking up extra fees. I only have a problem when things are misrepresented like all the points above)

Lemoonjuice said:
* Is this just an Australian thing? I have seen thousands of strategies for sale for $30 ish, not a chance they have something like this? Is it the same as a E-book ?

Yes it's an Australian thing but most major developed countries have similar systems in place. Australia is especially strict. Ebooks are mostly based overseas and packaged under entertainment category, something which would be very hard to do in your case with subscriptions. Ebook is something you can consider doing if it's a once off sale and you collect the revenue overseas.

Lemoonjuice · 9 January 2017

minwa said:
If that is the case why not state that instead of saying YOU PERSONALLY trade with them. I just see no mention of lower commissions on http://pepperstoneaffiliates.com/ by signing up through someone else. I will contact Pepper and see what better deal I will be getting compared to my own default Pepper account.

I only called you scam after you started charging, before that I didn't. The points still stand:

- You say you are not selling anything but later do (we call them shills.)
- Lie about which broker you are using for affiliate gains (even if people get a better deal, why not state that instead of lying ?)
- You show a small piece of gains of few thousand %, then close the system down. Now you are using that small section of results to advertise on your site.
- "Instant rich, guaranteed profits". (no serious trader I or anyone here has ever met ever use those words in trading) If that is so you would not be selling. (OK, I get your point that you are picking up extra fees. I only have a problem when things are misrepresented like all the points above)

Exactly my point, I told you already when I started this thread I had no intentions of selling anything.
You: (we call them shills.)
Maybe if I type things in bold you listen ?

2 weeks ago my mate created the website ownyourworkweek.com We got talking and started forex.ownyourworkweek.com All this happened within 2-3 weeks and was not some evil plan to rule the world that was in motion since 10th August when I started this.

I said that my site is new and I have no idea what im doing, instead of constructive comments about my page you just want to destroy me. Welcome to the internet I guess.

You are not interested in listening to anything I have to say and there is no point me continuing at all as its clear you have made up your mind and that's all their is to it.

I might talk different to everyone else and throw crazy words out there but the fact is the way I trade is completely different to everyone else! and so am I. There might be a price on my help and strategy but In the end I had good intentions to help people even if it did cost.

If you do not have anything nice to say in your next post then please go f**k yourself and leave me alone as this whole thing is depressing. It was never meant to be a bad thing like you have made it.

Thanks.

minwa · 9 January 2017

You are correct - I have nothing constructive to say about a liar peddling for money. Still I may have potentially saved you from a very nasty and costly lashing from ASIC. You are the one that made it a bad thing with lies and misrepresentations and expecting people to overlook these "little details" as you put them.

Good luck over at FxFactory forum. Still only showing pictures of Oct results ?

cynic · 9 January 2017

cynic said:
Cool! Thankyou and well done! I shall continue reading your thread with interest and henceforth quarantine my scepticism.

In light of recent developments, I have decided to terminate the quarantine and reinstate my skepticism.

minwa · 9 January 2017

Lemoonjuice said:
I can get everyone a great deal on Pepperstone which I then refund most of your commissions back into the account.

Picking on another "little detail" so on top of lying saying you personally use them you also lie about the rebates part. Anything for extra money right ?

ThingyMajiggy · 9 January 2017

minwa said:
If you did not display most of the signs of a fraud I would not have been. Still can't figure that 8 letter word out ! Starting with A I'm guessing but none of my guesses goes to the 8th letter.

Try the Australian spelling minwa

OmegaTrader · 5 February 2017

get rich get rich sell sell
buy my product get rich buy buy

I wonder what the regulator actually does.

thanks Minwa for being so scepticle

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