Electric cars?

[Knobby22]

Some of the smaller makers are a risk, they may not be around for long.

Cupta is owned by SEAT who are in turn owned by Volkswagen group.

 

[JohnDe]

- I too have an Atto 3 that ticked off 3 years today. It has a real world driving range over 600km, although this will dip at highway speeds.

Dream on.

The BYD Atto 3's real-world city range is approximately 330 km in cold weather and can reach up to 490 km in mild weather. This figure varies significantly based on the weather conditions and driving style, with the Extended Range model offering more potential distance than the Standard Range version. ​

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The long-range BYD Atto 3 typically offers a WLTP range of around 420 kmon a full charge, though real-world range can vary significantly from this figure. Actual range is influenced by driving conditions, speed, terrain, weather, and the use of the air conditioning or heater, with highway speeds and heavy use of climate control generally leading to a lower range​

 

[rederob]

Dream on.

The BYD Atto 3's real-world city range is approximately 330 km in cold weather and can reach up to 490 km in mild weather. This figure varies significantly based on the weather conditions and driving style, with the Extended Range model offering more potential distance than the Standard Range version. ​

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The long-range BYD Atto 3 typically offers a WLTP range of around 420 kmon a full charge, though real-world range can vary significantly from this figure. Actual range is influenced by driving conditions, speed, terrain, weather, and the use of the air conditioning or heater, with highway speeds and heavy use of climate control generally leading to a lower range​

Not my problem that you could not make sense of the fact that I linked everything to the Zeekr andXPeng's longer driving ranges.

Like Mullokintyre's wife, I also own an Atto3 and suffer a comparatively low range for a supposed "extended range" version of an EV. Across 3 years of ownership my Atto 3 has averaged a tad over 100km/15kWhs. With mainly highway driving at speed the Atto 3's economy drops like a stone, to nearer 25kWhs per 100kms. I estimate I have spent less than $5 on charging at home this year as I get free charging while I shop when a spot is available.

 

[Value Collector]

Not my problem that you could not make sense of the fact that I linked everything to the Zeekr andXPeng's longer driving ranges.

Like Mullokintyre's wife, I also own an Atto3 and suffer a comparatively low range for a supposed "extended range" version of an EV. Across 3 years of ownership my Atto 3 has averaged a tad over 100km/15kWhs. With mainly highway driving at speed the Atto 3's economy drops like a stone, to nearer 25kWhs per 100kms. I estimate I have spent less than $5 on charging at home this year as I get free charging while I shop when a spot is available.

Are you sure that’s true? Are you saying a 50KWH battery would only get you 200km at 100km/hour.

That doesn’t seem right .

 

[JohnDe]

Not my problem that you could not make sense of the fact that I linked everything to the Zeekr andXPeng's longer driving ranges.

Like Mullokintyre's wife, I also own an Atto3 and suffer a comparatively low range for a supposed "extended range" version of an EV. Across 3 years of ownership my Atto 3 has averaged a tad over 100km/15kWhs. With mainly highway driving at speed the Atto 3's economy drops like a stone, to nearer 25kWhs per 100kms. I estimate I have spent less than $5 on charging at home this year as I get free charging while I shop when a spot is available.

rederob said:

“I too have an Atto 3 that ticked off 3 years today. It has a real world driving range over 600km, although this will dip at highway speeds.”​

BS, all day long no matter how you spin it.

 

[JohnDe]

The real-world driving range of the 2026 Zeekr 7X is not yet known, as it has only undergone preliminary previews and official figures will depend on real-world testing and usage.

 

[sptrawler]

I noticed that Tesla has the new 2026 Model 3 with a claimed WLTP range of "up to 750km".
That would be a game changer if it asn't so difficult to get in and out of.
We plane to spend a day going down to Melbourne to tour the showrooms.
Mick

A friend of mine and his wife have a model Y and a model 3, they are looking at replacing the model 3 with a second model Y, due to the difficulty getting in and out of the model 3.

 

[rederob]

Are you sure that’s true? Are you saying a 50KWH battery would only get you 200km at 100km/hour.

That doesn’t seem right .

It's a 60kWh battery in the ATTO 3 ER, and our highway speed is 110kph.
I get about 100km per 20kWh at 100kph. If I am in a flow of traffic where the wind is broken by other vehicles, especially trucks, then I can get a lot further per kWh.

The Atto 3 is a bit like a truck when it comes to aerodynamics!

 

[rederob]

rederob said:

“I too have an Atto 3 that ticked off 3 years today. It has a real world driving range over 600km, although this will dip at highway speeds.”​

BS, all day long no matter how you spin it.

Other readers can see you have misquoted given the post read as follows:



Your motives appear childish.

As to real world ranges, they differ for everyone depending on their unique circumstances, and differ markedly between city and country driving. An acquantance driving an ATTO 3 as an Uber driver on the Gold Coast religiously averages closer to 110km/15kWh, week in week out. I could probably do that in ECO mode, but am always set to SPORT as it's a lot safer given the dozens of roundabouts in our area where dwardling through is never a good idea.

To claim the "real world driving range is not yet known" for any particular EV is reasonable for everyone who has not owned and driven an EV for long enough to draw a conclusion that reflects their circumstances and preferences. However, to suggest there is a "real world driving range" that is set in stone for each EV is a rather silly idea given how individual circumstances are going to be markedly different to the constant that led to whoever has determined a RWDR, and differ again between those predominantly city or country driving.

Quite separately the are standard tests carried out to determine driving ranges for EVs in different international regions. However, most people who already own EVs will use the various metrics relating to measured NEDC, WLTP or CLTC driving ranges as a guide only.

 

[JohnDe]

..to suggest there is a "real world driving range" that is set in stone for each EV is a rather silly…

Yes, quite “silly”.


rederob said:

“I too have an Atto 3 that ticked off 3 years today. It has a real world driving range over 600km, although this will dip at highway speeds.”​

The real-world driving range of the 2026 Zeekr 7X is not yet known, as it has only undergone preliminary previews and official figures will depend on real-world testing and usage.

 

[JohnDe]

A friend of ours has a model Y, which we both drove and I really liked.
But my wife did not like having to use the screens for so many functions. and it was bigger than what she wanted.
She also disliked the one pedal driving function, which I also really liked.
But it is her car, and she gets to choose.
Mick

Yes, it is fairly large and nothing can be done about that.
Accessing all the functions from the screen is daunting, and the engineers must have realised this and implemented improvements on the latest Y, and thus added the important features onto the steering wheel. The voice command is excellent, and the AI features very good. I can get in and move forward, reverse, do 3 point turns without touching anything except the steering and pedals.
The one pedal operation can be turned off, my friend that purchased my M3, his wife also doesn’t like the feature, she has it set up like a normal car, it roles when foot is off of the brake like an ICEV.

 

[mullokintyre]

When we evaluate the EV's we take it out on the freeway and record how may KWhrs its takes to keep the cruise control on ,100 , 105 and 110 Kmhr respectively.
Then divide those figures into the battery capacity and it gives a real world figure of our expected range on freeway.
the rest is marketing crap.
Mick

 

[Value Collector]

When we evaluate the EV's we take it out on the freeway and record how may KWhrs its takes to keep the cruise control on ,100 , 105 and 110 Kmhr respectively.
Then divide those figures into the battery capacity and it gives a real world figure of our expected range on freeway.
the rest is marketing crap.
Mick

The teslas give you all that sort of information, and can show you graphs etc. next time you are in one check out the energy consumption info, there is a lot of data there