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Been in touch with two groups, they are staying put. Hopefully none of us need to be in your hospital, I assume you are working there @Humid and NOT a patient!Remind them when they get crook not to come to my hospital in the city
Been in touch with two groups, they are staying put. Hopefully none of us need to be in your hospital, I assume you are working there @Humid and NOT a patient!
I prefer we test them first for effectiveness and also do not in themselves contain another virus.I would sincerely hope China is donating them.
Sorry folks but I must pose VERY ugly questions I truly hope we don't get this situation.
OK Caronavirus hospitalisations gets to a much greater serious level in Australia and medical staff have to decide who gets the treatment.
1. One person is 85 the other is 65. The elder person is privately covered the younger is not. Who gets the equipment if both have a relatively healthy track record all their life?
2. One person is 85 the other is 65. Both have the same health cover. Elder has a good health track record the younger not quite so good. Who gets the treatment. Vice Versa.?
PLEASE do not respond answer these questions BUT TAKE THE TIME TO THINK what is it YOU can do from this minute on, to help not get to this situation.
If we don't some poor people may will need to make these decisions and could be YOUR spouse partner sibling grandparent child.
Apologies if this has already had discussion but keep asking that question of people in your family and friends.
I think you are spot on, one the exponential curve in NSW is really accelerating and two school holidays are close.As I posted before this is the critical cut off for ICU beds April 8th only 15 days away
New infection rate numbers are still vertical NZ has gone to total lock down Australia cannot to to far away
https://sites.google.com/view/aucovid-19outbreak
good luck, is probably gone..was gone last week first the full cream then light then skim...I think you are spot on, one the exponential curve in NSW is really accelerating and two school holidays are close.
Must go to Aldi and get some long life skim milk.
I'm not sure if you can count post WW2 as the normal. Almost complete destruction of much of Europe & lots of other destruction elsewhere. Not just markets gone belly up but whole towns/regions even countries gone for all intents and purposes. That takes up a lot of time & resources to rebuild from which I think explains most of that time period in terms of unemployment.This chart covering Australia's unemployment rate for the whole of last century illustrates a few key points:
https://images.theconversation.com/...lib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1000&fit=clip
First obvious point is that once the rate goes up, it takes a very long time to come back down. Went up with the 1929 crash, didn't come back down until WW2 was underway.
One could argue that we still haven't recovered from the 1973 Oil Embargo either. It never came back down to what had been considered normal for the previous 30+ years.
Or for a less extreme example, consider the last two recessions. Both ended up close to a decade long event in terms of resultant unemployment indeed it was straight out of one and into the next.
I have trouble believing that we'll see a quick rebound for that reason, history shows otherwise. A quick drop to some extent as things re-open sure but it's very unlikely that we'll see everyone back to business as usual straight away. People without jobs don't go on expensive holidays and so on.
Might be if it is there mum or dad, who hasn't done their will yet.I note there has been some building anger towards boomers and suspect perhaps there isn't as much widespread sympathy or empathy among younger Australians (35 to 45 age group?)
So when you make changes to any system, you get all involved to discuss the possible weakpoint in the current system that need to be fixed before introducing changes.
Ie Minister to IT Head, we are about to see a x100 increase in visitors to the site, have you done any baseload testing to insure that are servers can handle it.
IT Head, yes we have, we can have a spike of x10 over that we will need to make some drastic changes in both server configs and hardware.
Minister x10 is good enough
actually in both italy and France where they are having to do the decision, an ethic medical committee has made a recommendation, which I am sure the nedics will appreciate as it remove some of the pressure on their mind conscience;I think actually its time to have the conversation to be honest and there will be opinions at each end of the spectrum.
I guess in the end medical staff will make that decision or there simply wont be another bed in the ICU for the next patient regardless of age.
I note there has been some building anger towards boomers and suspect perhaps there isn't as much widespread sympathy or empathy among younger Australians (35 to 45 age group?)
Note this essential poll results
Guardian Essential poll: one-third say there has been an overreaction to coronavirus
The latest survey of 1,034 respondents suggests men, and voters aged under 34, are more likely to think there has been an overreaction than voters over 55, and women.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...there-has-been-an-overreaction-to-coronavirus
From memory if you are very old or are seniler, have cancer or other grave illness, good luck; the aim becomes to only treat people who have a reasonable chance of making it...which means condemning to death some who had some chances..Not easy
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