Garpal Gumnut
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One for you, gg. In my inbox yesterday, the usual 'get what you pay for' discourse. Lots of graphs, lots of "I told you so's"Just an update on BTC v Gold in these volatile times.
Crypto would appear to be rising against the yellow metal this latter half of March.
Thanks @Dona Ferentes .One for you, gg. In my inbox yesterday, the usual 'get what you pay for' discourse. Lots of graphs, lots of "I told you so's"
But an interesting posit, as follows
"At the end of last year total central bank foreign currency reserves amounted to nearly $13 trillion.
Approximately 60% of which is in U.S dollars and 20% is in euros, the majority of which is invested in U.S and European government securities.
If you were responsible for the foreign exchange reserves of a central bank and given what has just happened to Russia, would you not be thinking about your exposure to U.S dollars, or euros?
If you were in Japan, South Korea, Australia, the U.K, France, Canada, or any other member of the western alliance, you wouldn’t be.
What, however, if you were in China, or even Saudi Arabia?
Surely you would think twice about where you invested? ....
In 2010 Russia had $176 billion invested in U.S Treasury securities and today it is $4.5 billion....
What about China?
The latest data shows that China has a bit over $1 trillion invested in U.S securities.
Remember China has total foreign exchange reserves of $3.22 trillion, which is the largest in the world.
What about Saudi Arabia?
Saudi has $119 billion in U.S Treasuries.
Pause for a moment, before you dismiss what I am about to say.
Remember that on 23 February 2022, the day before the invasion of Ukraine, no one thought that America and its European allies would sanction the Russian central bank.
The world has changed.
America has weaponized the dollar and Biden may not put NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine but he will use every tool at his disposal in the war between democracy and autocracy.
If you were sitting in Beijing with responsibility for a $1 trillion investment in U.S government debt would you be confident and comfortable?
Would you look to increase or decrease your exposure?
You know the answer.
And, an even better question is what do they invest in?
There is only one true global store of value that has stood the test of ancient and modern history…5,000 years of turbulence, revolution, hyperinflation, world wars and changing currency regimes.
And it’s not bitcoin or any of the other 12,000, and counting, cryptocurrencies.
My bet is that some of America’s autocratic creditors will head for the exit in the years ahead.
Between you and me, it will not be years.
Yes, and they will follow Putin’s lead and sell U.S Treasury securities and buy gold. .... "
Jonathan Pain.
But why would you want to buy bitcoin?Just an update of the price of BTC v Gold.
It shows how many ounces of Gold will buy 1 Bitcon
Gold is just under flat at the moment but Bitcoin is currently running -59% down on the year. There are some correlations in the way the two assets move but when the going gets tough Bitcoin's losses are very volatile. As a store of value and safe haven, there is no question at the moment gold is the clear winner. If you are looking for the high beta play then Bitcoin could be your answer but for stability, there is no contest.
Watch bitcoin vs gold
One other asset class that ripped up the rule book since the GFC is also worth watching.
Cryptocurrency bitcoin is now a risk bellwether and proxy measure of eroding public trust in the ultra-loose monetary policies central banks reversed in 2022. By contrast, physical gold ignored the economic textbooks over the pandemic and failed to rise as a hedge against inflation, geopolitical volatility, or falling interest rates.
Perhaps if bitcoin outperforms gold in 2023 it will be obvious that trust in central banks and sound money still has a long way to be restored.
But if gold beats bitcoin, the logical inference is that central banks have hammered home some new rules of investing.
I suppose as long as one has understandings of it, the mood swings of Bitcoins and its mates, then all is well.Gold vs Crypto | The Royal Mint
The exponential growth and growing popularity of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies over the past year has sparked the interest of many investors.www.royalmint.com
It is quite humbling as a collector and investor in Gold to be humbled by its poor performance in relation to BTC.Thanks to Xe, I have again been able to find some tasty charts of BTC/Gold.
They track how many ounces of gold it takes to buy one bitcoin. I enclose some daily to a yearly chart.
I don't discount crypto btw, it may have some value going forward but not at these prices for me, and I prefer the vibe of ETH were I to jump in. Gold has stagnated somewhat and BTC is in a longer term downtrend.
I mean to say you got to buy something when it gets very cheap when your gold bar starts to appreciate, if it does.
Interesting times.
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gg
There was a period where gold did terribly in comparison to tulip bulbs, I wouldn’t worry about it to much, the market eventually reverts to the mean of core values.It is quite humbling as a collector and investor in Gold to be humbled by its poor performance in relation to BTC.
Since the first post on this thread, in spite of Gold's appreciation recently BTC is now nearly double the value in comparison to Gold.
I still hold some hope for a complete collapse and rout of BTC, but it is increasingly just that, a hope.
A chart.
gg
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