Dona Ferentes
Did the Thessalonians write back?
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odds on, a hyphenated one.
odds on, a hyphenated one.So if Bandt loses and there are no Greens in the House, who becomes Greens leader?
SHY?
Well it would be a laugh a minute, the Australian AOCSo if Bandt loses and there are no Greens in the House, who becomes Greens leader?
SHY?
Yeah there are 4 of them so a hyphen would be likely.odds on, a hyphenated one.
The epitome of Stockholm SyndromeAbout the"Australia is not specific":
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ohh look at the last 3 years from top of the lot to absolute loser..but obviously ALP will save us now..
Australia asked for more, and will get it.
That is the last election result
Do you really think there was every any doubt about that though?ohh look at the last 3 years from top of the lot to absolute loser..but obviously ALP will save us now..
Australia asked for more, and will get it.
That is the last election result
Not at all, LNP was just before ALP at the bottom of the list, the lesser damages: just look at the graphDo you really think there was every any doubt about that though?
Was there any side of politics with even remotely enough support to have a chance of forming government that, if elected, would seek to reform the economy sufficiently to reverse the productivity slide?
In my view the underlying reasons are deep seated and structural, there's no way of fixing it that doesn't create a substantial number of "losers" and therein lies the problem politically.
Ohhh how sad.It's official, the member for Gazan terrorists and green haired freaky people, leader of the watermelon party has lost his seat.
The best news of the whole election.
No doubt he will land a cushy job soon.Ohhh how sad.
It's official, the member for Gazan terrorists and green haired freaky people, leader of the watermelon party has lost his seat.
The best news of the whole election.
Three down and one to go Happy daysBandt ousted in Greens rout; The loss of the Greens leader likely reduces the party to just one seat in the new parliament, down from four
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Three down and one to go Happy days
Adam Bandt’s banishment from parliament may be the (second) sweetest victory of all for Albanese
Adam Bandt’s utopian vision of turning the next parliament into the most progressive in the nation’s history may still be realised, it just won’t include him.
For Anthony Albanese, the purging of Greens leader from the seat of Melbourne – one which Bandt has held for 15 years – may not be the sweetest of all victories from Saturday night but it will run as a very close second.
With the defeat of Queensland Green Max Chandler Mather, Albanese lost his muse but with Bandt now for all bets gone, Albanese will have seen off a mortal enemy.
A significant number of Australians may thank him.
The prime minister once declared his mission in life was to fight “Tories”. This wasn’t entirely truthful. His mission has always also been equally grounded in a visceral hatred of the Greens.
Now the minor-left wing party has been reduced from four lower house seats to likely just one – the Brisbane based seat of Ryan.
When considering this as a 75 per cent reduction in representation in the lower house, it is a statistically worse result for the Marxist-socialists than the Liberal Party.
Bandt has only himself to blame. While he might point to the redistribution of his seat which cut his margin, the hubristic blend of belligerence and hysteria that Bandt represented never achieved the cut through of previous Greens leaders.
As leader he did not add anything to or build on the core support for the Greens’ brand. The 2022 election was an aberration in terms of its lower house success.
And Bandt assumed too much and drove too aggressive an agenda built around a strategy to wage war on Labor alone.
This reveals the depth of a misunderstanding. And that is the simple fact that many people vote Greens out of protest, knowing that they will end up with a Labor government anyway through preferences.
But attacking Labor at every opportunity, the constant blocking and folding on legislation for two and half years ended up backfiring.
While the Greens tried to pivot back in the last few months realising it was losing the argument on issues that even its own base cared about – such as living in a home – its shift involved even more eccentric promises and demands that were not only undeliverable but didn’t connect with voters.
Its frenzied anti-Israeli rhetoric polluted its brand even further.
Consequently its primary vote went backwards this time, dipping to around 11.5 per cent.
But while the Greens may end up with at best just one seat left in the house of reps, the great socialist alliance between it and Labor in the Senate will continue.
Just because Albanese declared that he would enter into no deals with the Greens to share power should the election outcome have been a hung parliament, that doesn’t mean he won’t have to horse trade with them on legislation.
The Greens will still have policy influence over the direction of the Labor government, via its numbers in the Senate and if for no other reason than half the Labor caucus probably agree with plenty of the radical positions they hold.
Despite this result for the Greens, Albanese and Labor cannot avoid the reality either that with their primary vote still below 35 per cent, Labor will continue to have to rely on the Greens for preferences to form government.
The Loon Party is slowly being disbanded.It's a possibility.
The prime minister once declared his mission in life was to fight “Tories”. This wasn’t entirely truthful. His mission has always also been equally grounded in a visceral hatred of the Greens.
Has Ley been absolved, washed and cleansed of that property debacle of 2017?Leadership favourite are Susan Ley and Angus Taylor.
Surely they won't continue to attempt suicide and pick Taylor. He is a dud.
Hmmmm as time passes then those in power hope that passing time will dim the memory also.Has Ley been absolved, washed and cleansed of that property debacle of 2017?
Me thinks not 'cos I remember, lol....
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