Trump Derangement Syndrome

[moXJO]

Nice to see others using the method of when you don't like the facts call it fake news or insinuate people who state the obvious of derangement.

No post facts when accusing someone. Its that easy.
If trump has been solidly linked then post it up. It may come down the track, but right now we do not have proof.

 

[IFocus]

No post facts when accusing someone. Its that easy.
If trump has been solidly linked then post it up. It may come down the track, but right now we do not have proof.

Mo what is fact "would or wouldn't"?

Every time the criminal opens his mouth he lies that is a fact.

Defending that is derangement (in a nice way )

 

[wayneL]

This thread really proves my thesis

 

[Darc Knight]

This thread really proves my thesis

What's your thesis? We should support Trump as an ally, but we should also be wary due to his past/nature.

 

[moXJO]

What's your thesis? We should support Trump as an ally, but we should also be wary due to his past/nature.

You don't fuel lies. Him being a sht person is one thing. But Russian collusion has not been proven. And the indictments had no bearing on trump as to now.

 

[moXJO]

Mo what is fact "would or wouldn't"?

Every time the criminal opens his mouth he lies that is a fact.

Defending that is derangement (in a nice way )

I'm not defending him. I'm defending his right to not be smeared on made up evidence. There is a huge media bias against him and they are pushing half truths as facts. This fuels twitter/social media and those too lazy to investigate further. Then lies become "fact".


And I'm aware its not just the left.

 

[Darc Knight]

You don't fuel lies. Him being a sht person is one thing. But Russian collusion has not been proven. And the indictments had no bearing on trump as to now.

Wasn't there an email from Donald Jnr to "the Russians" feeling out a possible meeting, prior to the Election? Doesn't the FBI or someone have proof of data transfer between Trump Tower and The Kremlin prior to the Election?

 

[luutzu]

The way it's going I think it's going to by quite a bit more than a few million.
Then there will be the 70 years of famines.

Unfortunately I think you're right there. Last estimates a few years ago put 2 million Iraqi dead from the war. Don't think they counted those dead due to failed infrastructure, contamination from weapons, terrorist blowbacks... famine.

Heard that oil counts for 99% of Iraq's economy. But it only employs 1% of the population.

Those who survive can now vote though. So it's all good.

 

[bellenuit]

What proof?

Actually Mo, you have lost the thread I think. You and Wayne had been asking for proof that Russia had interfered in the elections, because I had claimed that by taking no action and in fact trying his best to impeded the investigations he was damaging democracy.

It is only now that they have definitive proof. Proof, by the way, that was obtained while Trump and many in the GOP went out of their way to be as obstructionist as possible to the investigation, even to the extent of requesting the outing of sources.

But now that they have this proof, what does Trump do? Blame the law enforcement agencies while he kisses Putin's derriere.

Your response to that post of mine was: What proof?

So when I pointed to the indictments of Russian agents, you continued to demand proof, but now you are saying that the proof should be of Trump's collusion, something that has not yet been put on the table by Mueller and something that I did not say.

With regards to Russian involvement, the last video I posted has even Trump admitting Russian involvement, though very reluctantly.

 

[moXJO]

Actually Mo, you have lost the thread I think. You and Wayne had been asking for proof that Russia had interfered in the elections, because I had claimed that by taking no action and in fact trying his best to impeded the investigations he was damaging democracy.

It is only now that they have definitive proof. Proof, by the way, that was obtained while Trump and many in the GOP went out of their way to be as obstructionist as possible to the investigation, even to the extent of requesting the outing of sources.

But now that they have this proof, what does Trump do? Blame the law enforcement agencies while he kisses Putin's derriere.

Your response to that post of mine was: What proof?

So when I pointed to the indictments of Russian agents, you continued to demand proof, but now you are saying that the proof should be of Trump's collusion, something that has not yet been put on the table by Mueller and something that I did not say.

With regards to Russian involvement, the last video I posted has even Trump admitting Russian involvement, though very reluctantly.

Apologies my mistake.

 

[wayneL]

What's your thesis? We should support Trump as an ally, but we should also be wary due to his past/nature.

Okay, look, Trump is a bit of a dick. I'm on record as saying this is America's Berlusconi moment. Lord knows that he had made mistakes and brings a completely different style to the Presidency .

But... He is no idiot and IMO probably had the the interests of the USA closer to his heart than the last presidency.

My thesis ( in common with many others) is that the categorisation of him by the left, the hatred, the smear... is psychopathological and way beyond the truth of the matter. The left is doing far more damage, is far more divisive, and closer to being genuinely treasonous than Trump will ever be.

Wish I had more time to expand on that, but plenty have done that already... if you look.

 

[notting]

I don't think there was any collusion and I believe Trump genuinely wants America to win, get better deals, not be fuc&ed by China 24hrs a day.
There is also no doubt that Putin put Trump in regardless.

People give themselves away in odd moments especially when stakes are high. Like when Trump talked about the Syrian babies being gassed, he cradled his arms and exclaimed 'babies' that was very real and shows he cares and isn't a psychopath.
You'll never see the Chinese or Putin do that!

Also when Trump is sitting in some of his cabinet meetings he sits in a body language posture of 'self nurture' - he's 'hugging himself.'
Trump is in a lot of emotional pain. A LOT!!!

 

[CanOz]

Oh FFS GB, release notting!

 

[notting]

Watch from 2:15

 

[luutzu]

Watch from 2:15

Seems that if you're a bad guy doing murderous things, committing war crimes... it's bad if you're not on the friend list. If you're on the list, you're not so bad.

Takes Saudi Arabia/UAE on Yemen. Bombing the crap out of the poorest country in the Middle East. Causing the world's largest outbreak of cholera, most of the population into a literal famine...

Guess who supplies to weapons, the intel, the mid-air refuelling, the target selection?

Or Israel... the "only democracy" in the Middle East just made it official to be an Apartheid state. They're literally codifying into law that the Jews is the master race in Israel. And just started bombing "hamas" in Gaza because, well, people should learn to keep quiet about being slowly poisoned to death in concentration camps.

So yea, there are "worthy victims" and then there are terrorists, second class collateral damage.

Nikki Haley is a two face lying psycho. She's so far up the establishment's azz she's either dazed and confused, or just plain bs'ting about how "outrageous" it is for the UN to dare report that half of her own country and its children are living in poverty.

I obviously don't know what it's like, but it seem that when a person is up high enough on that power list, being surrounded by lines of brown nosing aids, the lobbyists, the bubbles, the personal stupidity and self-importance... they all turned into high functioning sociopath.

 

[notting]

I obviously don't know what it's like, but it seem that when a person is up high enough on that power list, being surrounded by lines of brown nosing aids, the lobbyists, the bubbles, the personal stupidity and self-importance... they all turned into high functioning sociopath.

It's the opposite when it comes the the US. They come out emasculated. Nixen, Carter, Bush, Trump.
If you compare Trumps campaign posture and tone compaired to his current efforts the difference is palpable. He's a shell of what he was!
All the huff and bluster has turned into a kind of confused miserable lost human being going through the motions!

 

[IFocus]

I'm not defending him. I'm defending his right to not be smeared on made up evidence. There is a huge media bias against him and they are pushing half truths as facts. This fuels twitter/social media and those too lazy to investigate further. Then lies become "fact".


And I'm aware its not just the left.

To be fair Trump has attacked aggressively often in a derogatory manner any thing and anyone who has the temerity to point out any of his failings/untruths/alternative facts or his immoral positions.

His attacks on the 4 estate is extreme by US standards none of which I would rate left wing.

 

[moXJO]

To be fair Trump has attacked aggressively often in a derogatory manner any thing and anyone who has the temerity to point out any of his failings/untruths/alternative facts or his immoral positions.

His attacks on the 4 estate is extreme by US standards none of which I would rate left wing.

Its the divide in the population between left and right that will ruin it for years.

The left went spastic on G W bush in similar fashion.



He was the worst president, a nazi, worse then hitler, blah blah blah.
The world was ending according to the left and media.
Similar pattern on trump.

 

[Country Lad]

Also when Trump is sitting in some of his cabinet meetings he sits in a body language posture of 'self nurture' - he's 'hugging himself.'
Trump is in a lot of emotional pain. A LOT!!!

I think you misinterpret the body language, this is commonly his position in face to face meetings, especially in cabinet meetings:

Standard Arm-Cross Gesture
Both arms are folded together across the chest as an attempt to ‘hide’ from an unfavourable situation. There are many arm-folding positions, but this book will discuss the three most common ones. The standard arm-cross gesture (Figure 70) is a universal gesture signifying the same defensive or negative attitude almost everywhere.

 

[Logique]

Trump is not a perfect human being, he has his flaws like anyone.

But at least he isn't Hillary. Or Bill. And that's what American voters thought too.

The Democrats thought Hillary was going to win, they still haven't gotten over it.