The Turnbull Government

[sptrawler]

It's a conundrum. The 8% rising debt and seemingly insoluble extra $100bn this year and the half a trillion dollar total debt is very concerning from so called fiscal and economic managers. I can only think the money is flowing into Melbourne and Sydney fueling the housing price demand and thus propping up a Claytons GDP.

I don't think they have a clue quite frankly, with the total focus being on blaming everyone else for their own failures.

It's our fault of course, We gave this lot a free pass based on punishing the Gillard/Rudd mob and we didn't put any caveats and boundaries in place...we expected adult behaviour from a bunch of kids really IMO.

I'm beginning to lean your way, in W.A the newly elected Labor Government is going to cut the public service hugely, if the Liberals had tried it the CFMEU and the other heavies would have been all over the t.v marching on Parliament.
Now that Labor have announced it not a peep.lol

All we hear in in the media in W.A at the moment, is what a $hit deal we are getting with GST, when Barnett said anything about it over the last eight years, he was told to shut up and man up .lol

When there is a Liberal suggestion of putting in a pipeline to pump gas from W.A to Moomba, that would help ensure supplies to the Eastern States and help develop interior regions, we get told it is ridiculous because it would cost $9billion.

Yet it was really sensible to upgrade the internet in Australia, for $80billion, because The muppets said it would be good for you. When in reality all it is about is data collection and the ability to have the general public pay for t.v, which they currently get for free.

It never ceases to amaze me, the fervor people can have , for something that works to their detriment.
But then again that is how the Tobacco industry and fast food industry work, so I guess it is a proven formula, get the media onside and the rest is easy.
Not so much a rant, as a statement, from someone who is fed up with trying to highlight the fact Labor have nothing but self interest at heart.IMO

 

[basilio]

So Gonski 2 is back with a twist and double somersault!.

PM Malcolm Turnball has decided to turn on the tap for public education and review and reduce the funding for the most high priced Private schools to help balance the system.

IMO this is huge deal. Puts Labour well and truly on the defensive and finally tackles the charade of $30k a year Private schools using taxpayers money for second and third swimming pools. Be interesting to see if Malcolm can hold the line on reducing funds to the elite schools.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/fed...-to-know-about-gonski-20-20170502-gvxct7.html

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/fed...vernment-redirects-funds-20170502-gvxknc.html

 

[Tisme]

I'm beginning to lean your way, in W.A the newly elected Labor Government is going to cut the public service hugely, if the Liberals had tried it the CFMEU and the other heavies would have been all over the t.v marching on Parliament.
Now that Labor have announced it not a peep.lol

All we hear in in the media in W.A at the moment, is what a $hit deal we are getting with GST, when Barnett said anything about it over the last eight years, he was told to shut up and man up .lol

When there is a Liberal suggestion of putting in a pipeline to pump gas from W.A to Moomba, that would help ensure supplies to the Eastern States and help develop interior regions, we get told it is ridiculous because it would cost $9billion.

Yet it was really sensible to upgrade the internet in Australia, for $80billion, because The muppets said it would be good for you. When in reality all it is about is data collection and the ability to have the general public pay for t.v, which they currently get for free.

It never ceases to amaze me, the fervor people can have , for something that works to their detriment.
But then again that is how the Tobacco industry and fast food industry work, so I guess it is a proven formula, get the media onside and the rest is easy.
Not so much a rant, as a statement, from someone who is fed up with trying to highlight the fact Labor have nothing but self interest at heart.IMO

Yes sometimes the means to the end takes a snaking path.

I'm pleased you are being open minded about the machinations of polar politics. I have known Premiers from both sides in WA and I can tell you self interest is not owned by one persuasion.

 

[Tisme]

Debt prior Abbott ~$250bn
Debt now ~$470bn

 

[sptrawler]

Yes sometimes the means to the end takes a snaking path.

I'm pleased you are being open minded about the machinations of polar politics. I have known Premiers from both sides in WA and I can tell you self interest is not owned by one persuasion.

Yes I agree, a highly respected W.A Union President, I worked for thought Barnett was the only W.A politician with a brain.
So there you go.lol

 

[SirRumpole]

Debt prior Abbott ~$250bn
Debt now ~$470bn

Yes, but it's all Labor's fault.

Where are they getting the money for a company tax cut, submarines, pumped storage , F35's etc ?

Low and middle income earners are shuddering in their boots before the budget wondering where the axe will fall.

 

[Tisme]

Yes, but it's all Labor's fault.

Where are they getting the money for a company tax cut, submarines, pumped storage , F35's etc ?

Low and middle income earners are shuddering in their boots before the budget wondering where the axe will fall.

You answered your own question in the opening sentence. In our eagerness to rid ourselves of Rudd/Gillard we accepted the subsequent nonsense that whatever the new boys spent, the debt would belong to our previous masters.........we gave them an open cheque with no oversight.

 

[SirRumpole]

You answered your own question in the opening sentence. In our eagerness to rid ourselves of Rudd/Gillard we accepted the subsequent nonsense that whatever the new boys spent, the debt would belong to our previous masters.........we gave them an open cheque with no oversight.

Thanks to the Greens who abolished the debt ceiling when Hockey was Treasurer.

That really shows that the Greens and LNP are the big spenders not Labor.

 

[Tisme]

Thanks to the Greens who abolished the debt ceiling when Hockey was Treasurer.

That really shows that the Greens and LNP are the big spenders not Labor.

Huge spenders when you consider the promise was to reverse Labor's drunken debt through congenital economic management that only the LNP possesses.

I think it's about time for a PS cleanout and closing the doors on a fair few of their departments.

Maybe some talent in the govt ranks wouldn't go astray either.

 

[SirRumpole]

I think it's about time for a PS cleanout and closing the doors on a fair few of their departments.

The HRC can go for starters.

 

[Tisme]

The HRC can go for starters.

That can't happen because it would be discrimination.

 

[SirRumpole]

First the LNP take credit for the NBN, then NDIS and now Gonski, none of which were ever mentioned under the 11 years of Howard's rule.

The LNP are cheap rip off artists, with no ideas of their own except gifts for the mates.

 

[Tisme]

First the LNP take credit for the NBN, then NDIS and now Gonski, none of which were ever mentioned under the 11 years of Howard's rule.

The LNP are cheap rip off artists, with no ideas of their own except gifts for the mates.

They are "conservatives" afterall.

It has to be rather difficult coming up with alternatives when Labor advances every permutation as policy in advance then pick the ones the want.

 

[Tisme]

The HRC can go for starters.

Interesting railing against the elite getting awards:

CHRIS KENNY Australian

Giving the Voltaire award to Gillian Triggs is an act of evil genius that completely deforms the meaning of the French philosopher’s most famous edict.

This announcement by Liberty Victoria actually rewards Triggs for the way she has used the power of the state to quash free speech.

Voltaire’s sentiment was: “I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it.”

Triggs has used the full force of the law and her Australian Human Rights Commission bureaucracy to silence and intimidate those who express views she and her cohort find unpalatable. Surely Voltaire would not fight to the death to see his most famous principle disfigured in this way.

This is the ultimate sellout of the human rights crowd. Triggs is lauded not for adhering to their lofty principles but for being on the right side of their partisan political debates. Look at her record: she delayed an inquiry into children in detention for 18 months for political reasons; pursued three university students for years over innocuous Facebook posts; allowed the commission to spruik for complaints that were then taken up against cartoonist Bill Leak; and has repeatedly misled and been forced to correct her evidence to various parliamentary inquiries.

• READ MORE
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  Leak’s son slams Triggs’ prize

Now she accepts an award honouring free speech. As George Orwell wrote in 1984; “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”

This is what Leak meant last year when he said the satirical work of a cartoonist — usually done by exaggerating a serious issue “to the point of absurdity” — was becoming increasingly difficult. “The trick doesn’t work in these strange times when the more ridiculous an issue is, the more seriously it’s taken,” he said. “And if you’re starting at the point of absurdity, where do you go from there?”

 

[SirRumpole]

Interesting railing against the elite getting awards:

Another Voltaire quote that may be relevant to the HRC.

"I am sitting in the smallest room in the house. I have your letter in front of me. Soon it will be behind me".



Sorry, actually that was Max Reger. Still a good quote though.

 

[Tisme]

Isn't it about time that the PBS, Medicare and Pensions be stripped from LNP voters to set the example of how to fix the socialism that is destroying our country since Federation? It's a risk to old Blue Ribbon people, but it's a risk I'm prepared for them to take if only to take away the burden of their hypocrisy.

http://www.9news.com.au/National/20...-Trump-on-successful-vote-to-repeal-Obamacare

 

[Tisme]

Spoiler

more family than formal

'Brian Trumbull' the latest butchering of Malcolm Turnbull's name during US visit with Trump

By
Mark Saunokonoko

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...uring-us-visit-with-trump#AgMKJafdhC3qbQ77.99

 

[SirRumpole]

Isn't it about time that the PBS, Medicare and Pensions be stripped from LNP voters to set the example of how to fix the socialism that is destroying our country since Federation? It's a risk to old Blue Ribbon people, but it's a risk I'm prepared for them to take if only to take away the burden of their hypocrisy.

http://www.9news.com.au/National/20...-Trump-on-successful-vote-to-repeal-Obamacare

An open go to Shorten in Parliament surely ?

Question to the Prime Minister : "as the Prime minister congratulated President Trump on repealing the Obamacare act, does he intend doing the same with Medicare" ?

Surely the police would have to investigate that question.

 

[noco]

An open go to Shorten in Parliament surely ?

Question to the Prime Minister : "as the Prime minister congratulated President Trump on repealing the Obamacare act, does he intend doing the same with Medicare" ?

Surely the police would have to investigate that question.

You are becoming more like Junior...You go to the sublime to the ridiculous.......You probably don't know if Trump has something more efficient than Obama Care........For all you know he might even like our Medicare where 1.5% to 2 % is taken out of workers wages.....The Liberal Government does not have any intentions of selling Medicare so stop the Mediscare rubbish....That is old hat and well and truly gone down the sewer wit a lot of other Labor crap.

 

[SirRumpole]

You are becoming more like Junior...You go to the sublime to the ridiculous.......You probably don't know if Trump has something more efficient than Obama Care........For all you know he might even like our Medicare where 1.5% to 2 % is taken out of workers wages.....The Liberal Government does not have any intentions of selling Medicare so stop the Mediscare rubbish....That is old hat and well and truly gone down the sewer wit a lot of other Labor crap.

LOL, seems like I touched a raw nerve there.