The Turnbull Government

[noco]

Well right now Labor is looking a united party while the Libs are still having civil wars and Barnaby blunders away with trying to pork barrell his electorate by moving departments to Armidale. Half the staff have resigned apparently and the rest have to work out of MacDonalds.

What a dill Barnaby is.

Do you really believe the Labor Party are united?

It would appear that way according to the polls but they have there internal problems which we do not hear about purely because of fear, the favorable media support from the ABC and they do not have to do anything while the Liberal Party transforms itself from the current chaos.

The Labor Party may sit on their hands for too long and become complacent.

 

[sptrawler]

GST on ebay and other auction/seller sites seems like a nightmare to govern. God only knows that the idiots in public service will make a dogs breakfast out of it. Is there anything the government won't impose a tax on, or legislate with another idiot rule on.
This country is going to sh.it with the amount of fees, taxs and laws that they impose on everything.

It is really funny, because the government was wedged by Hardly Normal, the media and Labor a couple of years ago, all ranting about the unfair advantage overseas sellers have by not paying GST.
The Government said at the time, it is too costly and inefficient to administer on purchases less than $1,000, the ranting continued the Government relented, now they cop the flack as though it was their idea. lol

 

[sptrawler]

Another weird twist, Labor are saying they will stop SMSF borrowing to purchase houses, to improve the affordability.
That is really weird because from memory, it was under the Gillard Government that SMSF were given the go ahead to borrow and buy houses, we on the forum thought it was a bad idea.
Now those who opened the floodgates with it, are claiming the accolades for suggesting it shouldn't be allowed, as it pushes up house prices.
Why do politicians feel they are distrusted, maybe because they contradict themselves and rely on the electorate having no memory

 

[moXJO]

It is really funny, because the government was wedged by Hardly Normal, the media and Labor a couple of years ago, all ranting about the unfair advantage overseas sellers have by not paying GST.
The Government said at the time, it is too costly and inefficient to administer on purchases less than $1,000, the ranting continued the Government relented, now they cop the flack as though it was their idea. lol

Labor made a lot of this mess. You can guarantee that their policies will damage the country more. Shorten is possibly the biggest idiot in politics today and no amount of "polish" coaching will help.
Labors front bench is terrible and their policies are populist cr.ap
Gerry Harvey can eat it as well.

 

[Tisme]

Why do politicians feel they are distrusted, maybe because they contradict themselves and rely on the electorate having no memory

Recalibrating based on prevailing conditions?

 

[SirRumpole]

Recalibrating based on prevailing conditions?

Of course, if the facts change you change your opinions.

 

[Tisme]

Labor made a lot of this mess. You can guarantee that their policies will damage the country more. Shorten is possibly the biggest idiot in politics today and no amount of "polish" coaching will help.
Labors front bench is terrible and their policies are populist cr.ap
Gerry Harvey can eat it as well.

Labor in power really concerns me, not so much Bill, but the real social engineers who have ethnic, gender, sexual and hurt feelings much higher up their ladders of imperative than national cohesion, nation building, national pride, assimilation, etc.....you know who they are... the ones who got bums on seats because of equal opportunity policy rather than merit to do what core works parliaments should do.

Wong, Tanya, etc will have us all apologising for being imperfect Utopians and pinging us with new rules of engagement and insincere guilt.

I do not agree Bill is anywhere near an idiot. He is is highly intelligent man and should be respected for that even if he does barrack for a different team.

 

[Tisme]

Of course, if the facts change you change your opinions.

If only voters would heed their own calls for change and vote for what's needed in the national interest for the next 3 years. But if your'e welded onto e.g. Collingwood it's a harder habit to break than cigarettes and alcohol it seems... I suspect it's the deluding brain confusing brand loyalty with common sense.

 

[SirRumpole]

Labor in power really concerns me, not so much Bill, but the real social engineers who have ethnic, gender, sexual and hurt feelings much higher up their ladders of imperative than national cohesion, nation building, national pride, assimilation, etc.....you know who they are... the ones who got bums on seats because of equal opportunity policy rather than merit to do what core works parliaments should do.

I agree completely but sometimes you have to take the rough with the smooth and go with the mob that offers the best overall benefits.

Frankly I'm not inclined to go with a Party whose sole economic policy is to give tax cuts and tax dodges to their mates and say "stuff you" to everyone else even if that mean a tradeoff for a bit of social engineering as much as that makes me vomit.

I don't give either major party my preference these days, maybe Hanson's rise will give Labor the idea that the public have had a gutfull of minority pandering and will push it into the background and will concentrate on economic equality rather than minority feather bedding.

Let's hope so.

 

[noco]

You realise that if it wasn't for Turnbull campaigning for Abbott, Abbott would have lost his seat at the last election ?

http://www.news.com.au/national/pol...n/news-story/b3dab19f9532c009d2221c505266bac3

Tony Abbott is a popular as a fox in a hen house and Turnbull is holding him up. A funny way for Tony to say thanks, by continually white anting Turnbull.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/a...e/news-story/de6f82a31aad1495604b98bbfc4908de

 

[moXJO]

I do not agree Bill is anywhere near an idiot. He is is highly intelligent man and should be respected for that even if he does barrack for a different team.

You have to be joking. The guy got the job on union backing.
Sly and putting on a front is not a sign of intelligence. I've met the guy and intelligent isn't the word I'd use. He is a social ladder climber, doing what he has to out of ambition. He has a team around him to tell him what to say, how to say it and what to do.

 

[Tisme]

You have to be joking. The guy got the job on union backing.
Sly and putting on a front is not a sign of intelligence. I've met the guy and intelligent isn't the word I'd use. He is a social ladder climber, doing what he has to out of ambition. He has a team around him to tell him what to say, how to say it and what to do.

You obviously don't know how the Labor party works.... if you are an Anglo Male you don't just walk in off the street like the LNP .... however if you are naturally gifted as a lesbian, an artisan, a woman (especially a failed female lawyer or ex sports star), a non christian, non Anglo Male in any way, shape or form then the pathway is as easy as the handicapped entrance into a footy match.

In the face of such a melee, Bill has to be a formidable man ... even the LNP Govt blames him for everything that happens, that's how much respect they have for him and his abilities to govern from the opposition benches.

 

[moXJO]

Considering he has blocked all the savings measures even some he was once for. But then let policies that restrict our privacy and freedom through. I'd say its more of the same.

 

[Tisme]

Considering he has blocked all the savings measures even some he was once for. But then let policies that restrict our privacy and freedom through. I'd say its more of the same.

You didn't see Malcolm bragging how all the measures they wanted through have got through the other day?

 

[moXJO]

You didn't see Malcolm bragging how all the measures they wanted through have got through the other day?

I think he is a shtbag as well. All the measures he got through were basically screwing us over one way or another.
There were a few good things, but also a lot of stuff that puts us all further under the thumb.

 

[Tisme]

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/04/27/liberal-party-insider-speaks-out/

“The Turnbull government is at war with the people. This is a government which hates their own constituents. The Liberal Party has lost touch with what it stands for and will be decimated unless it changes tack. Across the next electoral cycle the Liberals will lose power federally and in every state with the exception, perhaps, of Tasmania.”

Those are not the words of the opposition, but of one of the Liberal Party’s leading strategists of the past 20 years.

Geoffrey Greene has worked as Liberal Party state director in both South Australia and Queensland and was one of the architects behind John Howard’s successful election campaigns between 1996 and 2007.

Mr Greene spoke to The New Daily in the hope of shocking his party back from the brink.

Known for his ruthless political savvy, Mr Greene was an old-fashioned, behind-the-scenes political operative. His public declaration of despair follows on from the resignations this month of Liberal federal director Tony Nutt and his deputy John Burston.

“They would not have supported the warfare this government has declared on its citizens,” Mr Greene said.

“The Turnbull government has attacked every core constituency, small business, superannuants, pensioners, families with children, all because they have a budget that is out of control.

“They have not done anything about their own backyard. Public servants still fly at the front of the plane.”

He warns that the crashing political fortunes of his party is being accompanied by administrative collapse at federal, state and branch levels, with membership and donations in freefall.

Mr Greene said a major Liberal Party constituency was small business, yet they had been burdened with excessive regulation.

“This is a government which only listens to big business,” Mr Greene said. “Small business has been annihilated.”

Geoffrey Greene says the Turnbull government “is at war with the people”.
Mr Greene sheets home blame for the Liberal Party debacle to a lack of professionalism.

“Generally speaking, the whole malaise of this government is due to inept advice, ministerial and organisational,” he said. “The Liberal Party once possessed a professional caste of political operatives and campaign staff who helped politicians nuance their messages and understand the voters.

“We knew from our polling how every person voted in every street and why. We understood how to ensure policy platforms met the expectations of the citizenry.”

Mr Greene said Malcolm Turnbull did not represent the traditionally socially conservative Liberal voter.

“The rise of Pauline Hanson is a reflection that the Liberal Party has walked away from their values. It permeates the brand across the country. It is offensive.”

Mr Greene said the party’s drift from its base was compounded by the lack of professional political operatives now working in parliamentary offices.

“I have never seen a set of government ministers more captured by their departments,” he said. “Managers sourced from the department are loyal to their departments, professional advisers are loyal to their parties, and to those who voted for them.

“Turnbull is running the country with a group of 25-year-old political brats. He doesn’t listen.”

From Centrelink robo-calls to the botched implementation of the NBN, government incompetence is at the forefront of public concerns.

“It will be a hard road to win them back,” Mr Greene said.

In recent weeks there have been frantic attempts by Mr Turnbull to seize control of the national narrative, including the “dog-whistling” of citizenship tests and attacks on so-called dole bludgers, many of whom, with the destruction of manufacturing, are simply unable to find a job.

All this activity barely lifted Mr Turnbull’s dismal standing in the polls a single point.

“Turnbull has nothing left,” Mr Greene said. “There are no other constituencies his government can attack.”

 

[SirRumpole]

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/04/27/liberal-party-insider-speaks-out/

Fair comment. Tax cuts and lurks for the mates, sod all for everyone else.

 

[orr]

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/04/27/liberal-party-insider-speaks-out/

Does the Liberal Parties constituency want what Abetz, Christainson and the rest of what the god bothering right want to give them?
Does the fact that no Financier on the planet will back Adarni with as much as brass razoo... But this government want to give it a Billion of your money; possibly give reason for concern?
A ruined and ruinous NBN, what is going on... let me guess 'Murde'och'
And as far as Morrison is concerned? where do you even start...
Petrolium rent... just LNG Qatars $26.4 billion in 2022 v Aust $800 million when we export more. Morrison wont touch it... boggles the mind.
Emissions trading... Every Business group wants it... From these dullards nothing.
Neg Gearing, Capital gains concessions ... For the betterment of the budget. nothing .

Nothings going to save 'em'. because they are no good....And They hate a lot more than just their constituents.

 

[Tisme]

Does the Liberal Parties constituency want what Abetz, Christainson and the rest of what the god bothering right want to give them?
Does the fact that no Financier on the planet will back Adarni with as much as brass razoo... But this government want to give it a Billion of your money; possibly give reason for concern?
A ruined and ruinous NBN, what is going on... let me guess 'Murde'och'
And as far as Morrison is concerned? where do you even start...
Petrolium rent... just LNG Qatars $26.4 billion in 2022 v Aust $800 million when we export more. Morrison wont touch it... boggles the mind.
Emissions trading... Every Business group wants it... From these dullards nothing.
Neg Gearing, Capital gains concessions ... For the betterment of the budget. nothing .

Nothings going to save 'em'. because they are no good....And They hate a lot more than just their constituents.

It's a conundrum. The 8% rising debt and seemingly insoluble extra $100bn this year and the half a trillion dollar total debt is very concerning from so called fiscal and economic managers. I can only think the money is flowing into Melbourne and Sydney fueling the housing price demand and thus propping up a Claytons GDP.

I don't think they have a clue quite frankly, with the total focus being on blaming everyone else for their own failures.

It's our fault of course, We gave this lot a free pass based on punishing the Gillard/Rudd mob and we didn't put any caveats and boundaries in place...we expected adult behaviour from a bunch of kids really IMO.

 

[noco]

Does the Liberal Parties constituency want what Abetz, Christainson and the rest of what the god bothering right want to give them?
Does the fact that no Financier on the planet will back Adarni with as much as brass razoo... But this government want to give it a Billion of your money; possibly give reason for concern?
A ruined and ruinous NBN, what is going on... let me guess 'Murde'och'
And as far as Morrison is concerned? where do you even start...
Petrolium rent... just LNG Qatars $26.4 billion in 2022 v Aust $800 million when we export more. Morrison wont touch it... boggles the mind.
Emissions trading... Every Business group wants it... From these dullards nothing.
Neg Gearing, Capital gains concessions ... For the betterment of the budget. nothing .

Nothings going to save 'em'. because they are no good....And They hate a lot more than just their constituents.

Qatar Government, over 50% investment in the infrastructure of gas...

Australian Government 0% investment in the infrastructure of gas.

This is where the difference comes in as I explained in detail in a previous post.