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Michael Cornips

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The Australian Regulation Prudential Authority publishes quarterly superannuation statistics for funds with $50m of funds under management. I have summarized the statistics going back to the December quarter 2004.

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Total income over the six years was $232 billion. This included the negative returns of $206 billion for the six quarters between December 2007 and March 2009. Due to these losses, tax on earnings was a net refund of $1.7 Billion over six years.

The total income of $232 billion represents a rate of return of 5.53% per annum over the period. It is a shame that a good proportion of employees who have a mortgage paying about 7.5% interest are investing their retirement savings in a more risky investment than the certainty of making mortgage payments.

Maybe it is time to cut out a lot of middlemen and allow a member's superannuation fund to invest in a mortgage offset account in the member's own mortgage. The interest on the offset account could be paid back into the superannuation fund. Simple rules could be established so that loan to valuation ratios remained at conservative levels. The process would cut out a lot of fees and give the member a chance to invest in their own future.

The Government should mandate the banks to provide the facility for owner occupied homes.

The banks would be provided a direct guaranteed funding source, easing funding requirements.

The offset facility would be seen as easing the growth of debt for consumers in the economy.

Mortgages are provided under normal lending criteria, with mortgage insurance being relatively cheap up to 80% of value of the home. The superannuation fund, as a bank depositor, would have the normal protections.

As interest rates rise, the same benefit would flow into their retirement savings.

As earnings of the fund are normally taxed, there would be no loss to the Government, as returns on investments are taxed anyway. As the assets are a bank deposit, the tax would be less cyclical, avoiding the $14 Billion in refunds the Government made during the credit crisis.

People would be more encouraged to save for their retirement if they could see a real direct benefit in saving.

As the superannuation system already exists, it is only a question of where you invest your money. Should you be forced into speculative investments to get a decent return, or should you invest in what is a high rate savings account. Remember, 7.2% return over 10 years doubles your money. Doubling your money with safety sounds like a good idea.

It probably makes too much sense to be practical.

Michael Cornips
 
super funds were increasingly investing offshore since local equity markets were not large enough to accommodate the growing size of Australia’s superannuation pool, which stands at $3.4 trillion.

Not only is Australia’s super sector almost $1 trillion larger than the domestic sharemarket, the value of the nation’s retirement savings are also growing at a faster rate.

The value of the Australian sharemarket has increased by 7.2 per cent per annum over the past 10 years, while the size of the super system has grown by 10.7 per cent annually.
 
The value of the Australian sharemarket has increased by 7.2 per cent per annum over the past 10 years, while the size of the super system has grown by 10.7 per cent annually.
actually not that flashy performance not to say poor for the ASX when you put both together, don't you think?
add inflation and GDP growth and ASX is a laggard...
imagine a shop whose customers increase by 10% a year and after 10 years your worth is only up 7%? do you keep the manager?
 
Ah! but just wait until immigration at 200,000 p.a. kicks in, again.
Was it not 40 % of the country's GDP growth, pre Covid ?
Might be too late to save Morrison at the next election, though.
 
Morrison's survival will depend on who the nation sees as a possible alternative

( governments LOSE elections )

maybe that alternative will arrive in time
 
Morrison's survival will depend on who the nation sees as a possible alternative

( governments LOSE elections )

maybe that alternative will arrive in time
personally, the covid response will be critical , and actually the only reason i will vote for or against a candidate:
fighting dictatorship at all cost
 
personally, the covid response will be critical , and actually the only reason i will vote for or against a candidate:
fighting dictatorship at all cost
anyway, I think ASX performance is not flashy considering the super mandatory injection month after month
 
anyway, I think ASX performance is not flashy considering the super mandatory injection month after month
+1

ALTHOUGH there was a push for Super funds to invest more internationally ( and maybe those managers find it just as difficult as i do , to get good returns for international stocks { in most areas } )
 
+1

ALTHOUGH there was a push for Super funds to invest more internationally ( and maybe those managers find it just as difficult as i do , to get good returns for international stocks { in most areas } )
sure but still most was invested here in AUS .anyway, O/S investment is good if only for trade balance
 
as is most of mine , maybe my contrarian views ( like intending to SOME of that stock for life ) work against me

ASIA worked well for me but that is more gambling/investing ( ASIA is basically the Asian version of a FAANG ETF ) niches like New Zealand have done well for me , the UK has been OK but brother several have made me NERVOUS .. like CYBG/VUK and HHG/JHG

the trade balance works best for me for exporting miners , i probably sold SHV too early BUT left with a nice profit ( maybe i will get a $4 entry again in the future )

but to be fair to Super Fund Managers they have to balance risk v. long term returns , WAX has been a great winner for me , but if you tell the average investor how often they turnover the majority of the portfolio most of the investors will SPRINT away ( WAX is a smaller holding intentionally bought as a 'risk-taking ' component without dabbling in 'penny-dreadfuls ' )

so while i have a less than cheerful view of Super Fund Managers , i do realize they have some hard decisions to make ( do you dump BHP for APT to hit Total Returns targets , or stick with BHP as it is likely to still be in business in 50 years time , and have a better chance of income returns over those 50 years )

HOWEVER i think the trend to incessant changes to Super Regulations will prove to be a mistake ( i think sending serious offenders to jail would have created a better outcome , long term )

to me investing is more about surviving the storms , than looting ship-wrecks after the storm ( because i think the best ships will weather the storms as well )
 
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