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Israel Folau - Breach of contract or right to free speech?

There are so many better people out there to defend or donate money to, than Israel Folau.


Nails it nicely I think Junior.

The idea some one as wealthy as Folau sucks money from the punters to defend his multi million dollar income dressed up as freedom of religion / speech is stunning.

Note when he was a lot poorer was he so public?

He is also not the only Christian in RA.
 
Rob, true Christians act from Love. They are trying to help people, save them. True Christians hate no one.

Calm down please or the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy will come and kick your ass. Is that bullying?

P.S. once again, I'm not a Christian, I hate everyone.
 
Nails it nicely I think Junior.

The idea some one as wealthy as Folau sucks money from the punters to defend his multi million dollar income dressed up as freedom of religion / speech is stunning.

Note when he was a lot poorer was he so public?

He is also not the only Christian in RA.
Alternatively, unions have fought to keep protections and rights of workers enshrined in law. I know this case is unpleasant. But it can have wide ranging consequences either way it falls.

Apparently from days past- Folau is on the cover of a gay magazine in support of homosexuals.
 
You could look at it another way :

How much has the guy donated to charitable causes over the past 10 years as a % of his income?
0% - then he is being a bit rich asking others to donate to his cause.
>5% - Okay, then it seems fair he has asked whether the cause is valid or not.
 
Rob, true Christians act from Love. They are trying to help people, save them. True Christians hate no one.

Calm down please or the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy will come and kick your ass. Is that bullying?


Oh man can of worms there.

Christians by name are required or practice taking JC into their heart.

The teachings of JC are clear one of love to all, inclusiveness of all, forgiveness to all, acceptance etc........get the picture......just don't read the rest of the Bible :)
 
You could look at it another way :

How much has the guy donated to charitable causes over the past 10 years as a % of his income?
0% - then he is being a bit rich asking others to donate to his cause.
>5% - Okay, then it seems fair he has asked whether the cause is valid or not.

I've got no problem with him asking for money. It's a free country (sort of) people can give or not.
 
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You could look at it another way :

How much has the guy donated to charitable causes over the past 10 years as a % of his income?
0% - then he is being a bit rich asking others to donate to his cause.
>5% - Okay, then it seems fair he has asked whether the cause is valid or not.
Who made you "rule maker" ?

How about:
support his cause= donate.
Don't support his cause = don't.
 
You could look at it another way :

How much has the guy donated to charitable causes over the past 10 years as a % of his income?
0% - then he is being a bit rich asking others to donate to his cause.
>5% - Okay, then it seems fair he has asked whether the cause is valid or not.
OT
gofundme ...... if u want to honeymoon in Europe but can only afford Bali ...then make a page.
There are even pages for peeps to buy beer to drink ........
They are not really a judgemental site (usually) but a "service" site.
 
That's hate speech!

You're sacked!

I don't think he should have been fired. But it's sad that anyone would 'donate' their hard-earned to help a relatively wealthy person cover their own personal legal costs. People lose their jobs every day. Behave like an adult and go find another job.

He may not have deserved to be sacked, but he was incredibly stupid with his use of social media. Incredibly stupid. And now he's inflicting further damage on his chances of being re-hired elsewhere in the industry.
 
Most people are incredibly stupid with their use of social media. But if you're a regressive lefty or a Muslim, it's okay.

It only has consequences if you're center or center right... or Christian.
 
I've got no problem with him asking for money. It's a free country (sort of) people can give or not.
I bet R.A won't be opening a Go Fund Me page, they will have deep pockets, it will cost a fortune to take them on.
I'm amazed the way everyone is so quick to pay out on the little guy, yet in the next thread they are supposedly in there batting for them, really sends mixed messages.
Probably the very same reason, Labor miss read their voter base, it isn't who they think it is.
 
That in itself, doesn't make him unworthy.
Also it would appear some disagree, the donations are upto $500,000+
I won't post the link, it could get Joe in the manure.:xyxthumbs
All I think it has done, is turn a percentage of the population off the Go Fund Me website, which is unfortunate because needy people may well lose out.

As I said "Go Fund Me", may well have done more damage to itself, than anything else.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-...ampaign-than-on-gofundme-20190625-p5210t.html
 
The only good thing to come out of all this so far is, it isn't an Australian company that loses the commission, on the returned donations. Hooray

before the American company cancelled the page and issued refunds because Folau's cause violated their terms and conditions.
 
I just witnessed a good rant on the afternoon news. This woman was adamant that Folau's words constituted hate speech. "It's hate speech...it's hate speech... I'm sorry but it's hate speech". Then she took a breath and said "It's not right, I hate it". :xyxthumbs

Does hating hate neutralize the original hate or add to it?
 
Rob, whats your opinion of his previous work (gay magazine cover and work) helping, or hindering his claim?
 
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