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You obviously knew what the problem was before you asked for help. You eat and/or drink too much.
The answer is self-discipline.
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You obviously knew what the problem was before you asked for help. You eat and/or drink too much.
The answer is self-discipline.
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100% correct, mind over matter, mental strength.
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I'm an ex fitness instructor (Ba App Sci, PE) and I'm going to tell you how to really lose weight!
I mean, immediate effects!!!!
This is radical.
Food:
Don't eat anything for the next 5 days except for fruit, juice, water and multi vitamins.
Then:
Fruit and juice up to lunch.
Large salad for lunch with some tuna, eggs, or some type of fish, not fried.
Or, steamed vegies.
Mean green soup for dinner. Cabbage, celery, tomato, onion, cucumber, and stock. Blend it up. Eat as much of this as you like!!
Snacks: fruit, and multi vitamins.
Do not drink alcohol.
Drink heaps of water.
Do this for a month without fail!
This will be very challenging.
Exercise:
Start walking more each day.
Walk a little more for 1-2 hrs each day.
Break into a jog for 30 mins when you can.
Jog and run as you feel fit.
No need to go further with exercise, you'll start developing too many muscles that need to be treated with extra food. Just keep walking and jogging.
Now, major problem!
Your metabolism has almost completely shut down. Your body is well into survival mode and requires far less calories than it did before. This will occur after 1-3 weeks of this survival weight reduction plan. In fact, your body will start to shut down after just a couple of days. After hunger not satisfied your body will start to naturally slow down to compensate and you will probably get very lethargic. Major probelm!
How to overcome it?
Firstly; stay starving, enjoy feeling hungry, and don't give in!
Once you have lost 5kg, of your 10kg target, start to wind things back. Very slowly!! Much slower than what you ramped up before. Maintain the exercise, but start adding in real food. Start drinking again. Maybe give yourself one day a week of drinking. This needs to be monitored really closely.
The only way to truly measure if this is all working is through body fat measurements, which can only be done in a tank in an exercise physiology lab. Scales, calipers, and measurements only tell half the story, but are an OK start. Taking measurements of body parts may assist in seeing reductions. Measure waist, hips, arms, chest, thighs nd compare as you go. And pants. See how they fit from day to day.
Now, once you've hit the 10kg loss the real effort begins...
You have changed your lifestyle. You need to keep some of these habits for some time. For example, fruit up till lunch, exercise 1hr plus each day, salad/veg for lunch, reduced alcohol intake. And more.....
That's about it for detail.
Alternatively, chop that leg off ....
Cripes, I've rambled on a bit.
If I was in your neighbourhood would volunteer to make this all happen.
Good luck!
Gav and the other qualified people are bound to crucify this plan.... LOL
I mean, immediate effects!!!!
This is radical.
Food:
Don't eat anything for the next 5 days except for fruit, juice, water and multi vitamins.
Then:
Fruit and juice up to lunch.
Large salad for lunch with some tuna, eggs, or some type of fish, not fried.
Or, steamed vegies.
Mean green soup for dinner. Cabbage, celery, tomato, onion, cucumber, and stock. Blend it up. Eat as much of this as you like!!
Snacks: fruit, and multi vitamins.
Do not drink alcohol.
Drink heaps of water.
Do this for a month without fail!
This will be very challenging.
Exercise:
Start walking more each day.
Walk a little more for 1-2 hrs each day.
Break into a jog for 30 mins when you can.
Jog and run as you feel fit.
No need to go further with exercise, you'll start developing too many muscles that need to be treated with extra food. Just keep walking and jogging.
Now, major problem!
Your metabolism has almost completely shut down. Your body is well into survival mode and requires far less calories than it did before. This will occur after 1-3 weeks of this survival weight reduction plan. In fact, your body will start to shut down after just a couple of days. After hunger not satisfied your body will start to naturally slow down to compensate and you will probably get very lethargic. Major probelm!
How to overcome it?
Firstly; stay starving, enjoy feeling hungry, and don't give in!
Once you have lost 5kg, of your 10kg target, start to wind things back. Very slowly!! Much slower than what you ramped up before. Maintain the exercise, but start adding in real food. Start drinking again. Maybe give yourself one day a week of drinking. This needs to be monitored really closely.
The only way to truly measure if this is all working is through body fat measurements, which can only be done in a tank in an exercise physiology lab. Scales, calipers, and measurements only tell half the story, but are an OK start. Taking measurements of body parts may assist in seeing reductions. Measure waist, hips, arms, chest, thighs nd compare as you go. And pants. See how they fit from day to day.
Now, once you've hit the 10kg loss the real effort begins...
You have changed your lifestyle. You need to keep some of these habits for some time. For example, fruit up till lunch, exercise 1hr plus each day, salad/veg for lunch, reduced alcohol intake. And more.....
That's about it for detail.
Alternatively, chop that leg off ....
Cripes, I've rambled on a bit.
If I was in your neighbourhood would volunteer to make this all happen.
Good luck!
Gav and the other qualified people are bound to crucify this plan.... LOL
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Ok I'm inspired, I'll let you know how it goes.............geeez no drinking !
Thanks, thats just what I needed...
this works for me...but everyone tells me its the wrong thing to do...bad for the body etc....but when I do this once or twice a year, I feel on top of the world...never felt better....have been doing this all my life....am not suggesting anyone else practice it.....I just hate the look and feel of fat....I used to ride horses, and played tennis.....that was the only exercise I liked...do not do either now...(there was a lot of active excercise in looking after the horses)
I do not eat for a week...guaranteed to lose 3-5 kg for the week...I drink coffee, water only during the day, then some alcohol in the evening...(about to cut that right down too) average about 250 cals in a glass of wine
I can speed things up by eating rockmelon..a natural diuretic
when I feel hungry..I drink a glass of water...it fills the stomach and the hunger thoughts are gone
apart from the above....I dont like veges much....except potatoes, I can make some wicked salads, taste terrific...but I do not see the results fast enough....and I am not really into eating food 3 times a day etc...
I am a good cook and love to cook and entertain, but I hate fat on me...thats for other people...
joke...I am on a seafood diet....aka I diet until I see food....(that is not me)
also not into exercise anymore, harder as I get older....used to play tennis 4 times a week, but to do the exercise now.....thats in my dreams ,,hahahaha
I never buy larger clothing...I have been the same size all my adult life...if things dont fit or are tight...then its diet time.....
I am an optimist...and I like the guarantee I receive from my diet plan...it does not take weeks or months to achieve the desired results
years ago. on a different temp diet..ate 1/4 of a rockmelon for lunch everyday...after 2 weeks noticed a dramatic loss of weight...I was eating my usual ordinary food...
told a friend who was closer to 100kg...he was a good cook, but tasted too much of his cooking obviously....he over ate...simple...he started eating the melon...did nothing different....within a week noticed a loss of weight...so simple, it then inspired him to keep eating the melon, but then he also reduced his overall food intake....
I never saw him for 4 months...when I did, it was unbelievable, he had gone from over a 100kg to 60kg...
some people find it difficult to totally change their food habits....so its a struggle to lose the weight, but in the case above...he got a good result without changing...which then inspired him to reduce the amount of his food
intake...
ps he has never put the weight back on..
the rockmelon is a good diuretic , it removes the liquid from the body...hence the early losses...
there are alternatives to the rockmelon....
or add some fruity yoghurt to disguise the taste
ps I think genes do play a role, buts its more the role model... then I see all those prisoners of war they were all skinny !
I do not eat for a week...guaranteed to lose 3-5 kg for the week...I drink coffee, water only during the day, then some alcohol in the evening...(about to cut that right down too) average about 250 cals in a glass of wine
I can speed things up by eating rockmelon..a natural diuretic
when I feel hungry..I drink a glass of water...it fills the stomach and the hunger thoughts are gone
apart from the above....I dont like veges much....except potatoes, I can make some wicked salads, taste terrific...but I do not see the results fast enough....and I am not really into eating food 3 times a day etc...
I am a good cook and love to cook and entertain, but I hate fat on me...thats for other people...
joke...I am on a seafood diet....aka I diet until I see food....(that is not me)
also not into exercise anymore, harder as I get older....used to play tennis 4 times a week, but to do the exercise now.....thats in my dreams ,,hahahaha
I never buy larger clothing...I have been the same size all my adult life...if things dont fit or are tight...then its diet time.....
I am an optimist...and I like the guarantee I receive from my diet plan...it does not take weeks or months to achieve the desired results
years ago. on a different temp diet..ate 1/4 of a rockmelon for lunch everyday...after 2 weeks noticed a dramatic loss of weight...I was eating my usual ordinary food...
told a friend who was closer to 100kg...he was a good cook, but tasted too much of his cooking obviously....he over ate...simple...he started eating the melon...did nothing different....within a week noticed a loss of weight...so simple, it then inspired him to keep eating the melon, but then he also reduced his overall food intake....
I never saw him for 4 months...when I did, it was unbelievable, he had gone from over a 100kg to 60kg...
some people find it difficult to totally change their food habits....so its a struggle to lose the weight, but in the case above...he got a good result without changing...which then inspired him to reduce the amount of his food
intake...
ps he has never put the weight back on..
the rockmelon is a good diuretic , it removes the liquid from the body...hence the early losses...
there are alternatives to the rockmelon....
or add some fruity yoghurt to disguise the taste
ps I think genes do play a role, buts its more the role model... then I see all those prisoners of war they were all skinny !
tech/a
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Bloody hell Kenna's Id hate to see your Survival diet!
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Genetics are a major part of your ability to lose weigth and keep it off!
There is a theory that you are born with a certain amount of fat cells and they can only be added to in you first couple of years of life. From then, you are stuck!
So, you either make the fat cells smaller, or larger...
Thus, an explanation for those who can never lose weight, and those who never put it on.
A common conception of personal weight is a natural balance which we will all achieve. That is, we can diet, or binge, all we like, but eventually, we will resort back to that natural balance. A genetic balance.
So, the only way to overcome that is to start dramatically changing your level of metabolic rate. Either through exercise or through caloric restriction, over an extended period of time.
So, back to the basics mentioned earlier:
Reduce calories and expend more....
Just manage the bodies natual reluctance to accept this over time to be successful.
There is a theory that you are born with a certain amount of fat cells and they can only be added to in you first couple of years of life. From then, you are stuck!
So, you either make the fat cells smaller, or larger...
Thus, an explanation for those who can never lose weight, and those who never put it on.
A common conception of personal weight is a natural balance which we will all achieve. That is, we can diet, or binge, all we like, but eventually, we will resort back to that natural balance. A genetic balance.
So, the only way to overcome that is to start dramatically changing your level of metabolic rate. Either through exercise or through caloric restriction, over an extended period of time.
So, back to the basics mentioned earlier:
Reduce calories and expend more....
Just manage the bodies natual reluctance to accept this over time to be successful.
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Yes, I doubt this can be achieved unless someone was extremely motivated, and/or under supervision, and then transitioned through to normal life.
I am a very motivated person...I dont try to be everything...just good at whatever I do...
I did try the fat bit deliberately....found it was uncomfortable...and I did not like the look
started that diet today....
I psyche myself up...easy...I can see the end result...I picture the positive result...nothing hard about it...
just one week of not needing food....voila
I can understand others who do not have the confidence or motivation required
I did try the fat bit deliberately....found it was uncomfortable...and I did not like the look
started that diet today....
I psyche myself up...easy...I can see the end result...I picture the positive result...nothing hard about it...
just one week of not needing food....voila
I can understand others who do not have the confidence or motivation required
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This subject has been raised many times on ASF, and yet it still gets plenty of traction. It is easy to see why the weight loss industry is so huge.
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Just got back from the supermarket, got carrots, fruit etc.
I didnt know that about rockmelon ? I love it will have to go back and get some.
I didnt know that about rockmelon ? I love it will have to go back and get some.
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Grrr, in Adelaide NO SHOPS ARE OPEN. God we live in the dark ages. Rockmelon - probably the one fruit that I loathe! But maybe it is worth a try too.
Good on you Mr B. Fill yourself up with raw salad vegies that actually burn off calories rather than add to them. Once you have detoxed yourself, (stick at a fresh food diet for a week should do it) you will actually come to like them. Also, give up the wine and beer and drink lemon juice, soda and vodka. I heard Jen Hawkins did this too. Way less calories.
Ah, I do the opposite which works for me - I picture the negative result! Interesting.
And Kennas, I agree with the thought that you should feel hungry at least part of the day. Trouble is, you then feel uncomfortably 'full' even when you have had only a light meal.
Also, make sure that you are also clearing all your food swiftly through the body - the lemon detox diet recommends a nice cup of senna tea! Amazing what that does!
But maybe it is worth a try too.Good on you Mr B. Fill yourself up with raw salad vegies that actually burn off calories rather than add to them. Once you have detoxed yourself, (stick at a fresh food diet for a week should do it) you will actually come to like them. Also, give up the wine and beer and drink lemon juice, soda and vodka. I heard Jen Hawkins did this too. Way less calories.
Ah, I do the opposite which works for me - I picture the negative result! Interesting.
And Kennas, I agree with the thought that you should feel hungry at least part of the day. Trouble is, you then feel uncomfortably 'full' even when you have had only a light meal.
Also, make sure that you are also clearing all your food swiftly through the body - the lemon detox diet recommends a nice cup of senna tea! Amazing what that does!
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Grrr, in Adelaide NO SHOPS ARE OPEN. God we live in the dark ages. Rockmelon - probably the one fruit that I loathe!
Good on you Mr B. Fill yourself up with raw salad vegies that actually burn off calories rather than add to them. Once you have detoxed yourself, (stick at a fresh food diet for a week should do it) you will actually come to like them. Also, give up the wine and beer and drink lemon juice, soda and vodka. I heard Jen Hawkins did this too. Way less calories.
Ah, I do the opposite which works for me - I picture the negative result! Interesting.
I just look in the mirror to see the negative result.
Dont drink a lot of beer, but drinking makes you hungry that whre it's a problem.
drinking makes you hungry ??? thought it would be happy...then when you get happy....you acquire a dont care attitude and eat ?
another source apart from rockmelons....( I too did not like them to begin with, but I liked them so much better than the alternatives...and eventually found it delicious,,,plus I do not get as good results with any of the others)
Include often foods which have a diuretic effect including celery, cucumber, apples, artichokes, rockmelon, watermelon, parsley, fresh dandelion greens, watercress, fennel, papaya, pineapple, garlic and dill.
Converse to what you may think you should also drink plenty of water, say 6 to 8 glasses daily.
Lean fresh red meats and fish can be eaten if desired as they are good sources of magnesium which reduces fluid retention.
Consider the possibility of food allergies; an elimination diet avoiding dairy products, wheat and other grains which are the most common culprits may be worthwhile.
http://www.weightcontroldoctor.com.au/index.php?page=az&subpage=fluidretention
another source apart from rockmelons....( I too did not like them to begin with, but I liked them so much better than the alternatives...and eventually found it delicious,,,plus I do not get as good results with any of the others)
Include often foods which have a diuretic effect including celery, cucumber, apples, artichokes, rockmelon, watermelon, parsley, fresh dandelion greens, watercress, fennel, papaya, pineapple, garlic and dill.
Converse to what you may think you should also drink plenty of water, say 6 to 8 glasses daily.
Lean fresh red meats and fish can be eaten if desired as they are good sources of magnesium which reduces fluid retention.
Consider the possibility of food allergies; an elimination diet avoiding dairy products, wheat and other grains which are the most common culprits may be worthwhile.
http://www.weightcontroldoctor.com.au/index.php?page=az&subpage=fluidretention
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Maybe you should post before and after photos MrB ...
If your objective is just weight loss (not body shape change) start a graph in Excel on your daily weight. Don't worry about daily fluctuations too much, but an overall trend. Week by week is a good indication. It's generally accepted that one pound / half a kilo per week is a safe weight reduction target. Can do a kilo if it's managed very well... What I suggested earlier will be around a kilo per week depending on your present level.
Must say again, you can destroy your metabolism with a radical diet if it's not followed through with a long term 'lifestyle plan'.
I reckon Gav will be in heaps of trouble once he finishes training and eating well. The muscle won't turn to fat (impossible), but his reduction in training intensity and increased caloric intake will be hard to manage. Good luck!
prospector....I prefer not to picture self in a negative state or look....
somewhere in my research years ago..the secret to success is to picture yourself in the desired state...look, career, position etc'
and if you had a negative thought, one must erase it from the mind......immediately...no ifs or buts about it...
apparently that is where people can go wrong..they picture themselves in the wrong state....then when a subconcious decision must be made...it can retrieve the wrong desired picture/state of mind......
hence how people often make a mistake....
somewhere in my research years ago..the secret to success is to picture yourself in the desired state...look, career, position etc'
and if you had a negative thought, one must erase it from the mind......immediately...no ifs or buts about it...
apparently that is where people can go wrong..they picture themselves in the wrong state....then when a subconcious decision must be made...it can retrieve the wrong desired picture/state of mind......
hence how people often make a mistake....
Kincella your nearly right about erasing the negative thought immediately..
the key is to recognise the negative thought think about it for 30seconds then disregard it.. this way next time the thought pops in your head you brain knows that you have already considered it and have considered it pointless for further thought..
This however needs some discipline to work..
the key is to recognise the negative thought think about it for 30seconds then disregard it.. this way next time the thought pops in your head you brain knows that you have already considered it and have considered it pointless for further thought..
This however needs some discipline to work..
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