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War threat in Ukraine

How cheap is this Russian oil that you talk about?
It's cheap as UK then sell some of it onto poorer European countries like Spain & Portugal... keeps the UK economy ticking over to fund the military aid to Ukraine
 
It's cheap as UK then sell some of it onto poorer European countries like Spain & Portugal... keeps the UK economy ticking over to fund the military aid to Ukraine

"It's cheap" thanks that is very informative. I can now conclude that you have no idea how much Russian crude to the UK is.

Keep us posted
 
check the Viva thread ... VEA
Petrol prices are determined by Malasian crude ex Singapore refinery.
 
Thanks for the full copy of that analysis. Seems to be excellent, professional research. Pretty sad picture of Russian preparation.

It does remind me of many earlier examples of USSR war processes. In particular the desire by agencies to tell the Leader what they wanted to hear rather than the reality on the ground. Also the use of "lower value" troops to soak up firepower.

The fear that Putin will now resort to scorched earth tactics to "win" the war is both troubling but bizarre. A trashed Ukraine will be an economic drag on Russia for many years.
 
President Zelinsky talking to his nation, soldiers in the invading army and Russian Citizens. Powerful. Copy taken from The Guardian

Here is the first part of his speech. It’s a long address so I’ll post the rest in two more chunks.


Free people of the free country, the 19th day of our resistance has come to end. Another hard day that made us closer to the victory and peace for Ukraine. As before, the enemy is perplexed. They didn’t expect such resistance. They believed their propaganda that lied about us for decades.

They still can’t recover but have begun realizing that they won’t achieve anything by war. Their soldiers know it. Their officers understand it. They flee from the battlefield, leaving behind their vehicles and equipment. We take the trophies and use them for defence of Ukraine. Russian forces have de-facto become a supplier of equipment for our army. They couldn’t imagine it in a nightmare.

[In Russian] I want to tell Russian soldiers, those who have already entered our lands and those who are only being sent to fight against us. Russian conscripts, please, listen to me attentively. Russian officers, you have already understood everything. You won’t be able to take anything from Ukraine. You will take lives – you are many – but yours will be taken too.

What are you dying for? I know, you want to survive. We hear in your intercepted calls what you really think of this war, of this shame, and of your state. Your conversations with each other, your calls home to your families, we hear everything. We make conclusions. We know who you are. That’s why I offer you a choice: On behalf of the Ukrainian people, we give you a chance to live. If you surrender to our forces, we will treat you as humans have to be treated: with dignity. The way you have not been treated in your army. And the way your army doesn’t treat our people. Choose.

[In Ukrainian]: Our brave defenders continue causing the Russian forces devastating losses. Very soon, the number of downed Russian helicopters will reach 100. They have already lost 80 military places, hundreds of tanks, thousands of other military vehicles and equipment. In 19 days, the Russian army had more soldiers killed than in two bloody wars in Chechnya. What for?

[In Russian] I’m thankful to those Russians who don’t stop trying to deliver the truth, who are fighting against disinformation and tell real facts to their friends and families, and personally to that woman who went in the studio of Channel One with an anti-war poster. Those who aren’t afraid to protest. As long as your country isn’t completely closed from the rest of the world, turning into a huge North Korea, you have to fight, you don’t have to miss your chance.

[In Ukrainian] The EU has approved the fourth package of sanctions against Russia. I’m sure it’s not the last one. We are working with partners on new restrictions that will be imposed against Russia. Every person who is responsible for the war, who is responsible for destroying a democracy and repressions against people. Everyone will get a retaliation from the world. And it’s only the beginning. Accountability for war crimes is inevitable. Accountability for deliberately manufactured humanitarian catastrophe in Ukraine is inevitable. The whole world is seeing what’s happening in Mariupol, Kharkiv, Sumy, Okhtyrka, Hostomel, Irpin. All our partners are informed about crimes of the occupants against civilians and local governments in Kherson and Zaporizhia regions.

Here’s the final part of Zelenskiy’s address, in which he updates Ukrainians on his diplomatic efforts and says talks continue on Tuesday:



[In the end he said he signed an order to award Ukrainian soldiers]
 
"..word (sic) wide climate change events and economic turmoil from war.."..Basilio

Klaus Schwab (WEF) couldn't have said it better.
 
Once the dust settles after this war, we should limit the price russia can sell its oil for to $40, and use the remaining margin to fund a reconstruction fund to rebuild Ukraine.
Not long now; Kyiv after been surrounded by Russia on all fronts, is starting to be attacked. Capture, kill the President, of Ukraine. Then as it is all ready; on for young and old.
Question is who rebuilds, and runs the country when the dust settles, solid Ukraine, with help from the West, witch is fragile from the cowards of Nato/US. ( Victory Unlikely unless the west fights for Ukraine ) Whimps! Or Putin's Russia. Where's all the so called charity going to go? What happens to any Ukrainians left over, scattered all over the place, living under Russia's Rule. Back to square one!
 
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A canceled check in the amount of $7.2 million, for the purchase of Alaska, issued on August 1, 1868. (National Archives)
 
Not long now; Kyiv after been surrounded by Russia on all fronts, is starting to be attacked. Capture, kill the President, of Ukraine. Then as it is all ready; on for young and old.
or, in the real world
and then , the summary for 15 March (time difference => 12 hours old)
each point is backed with attributable footnotes. (Ukrainian sourced, but I'm not noticing much free flow of information from the aggressors)
 


A no fly zone is WW3.

The US is being asked to decide between the plight of Ukrainians (via a no fly zone) and the future of the world (via ww3). The latter is unreasonable and criminal when a diplomatic solution (stop pushing NATO)
 
A no fly zone is WW3.

The US is being asked to decide between the plight of Ukrainians (via a no fly zone) and the future of the world (via ww3). The latter is unreasonable and criminal when a diplomatic solution (stop pushing NATO)

Tell it to those people, this is what is criminal

 
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