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War threat in Ukraine

Putin would've already known beforehand about all of these retaliation measures being imposed such as sanctions, the seizing of assets, freezing bank accounts/credit facilities etc. so he would have planned/prepared for this. I think Biden has underestimated Putin to be honest.
 

Most of Europe have for a decade or more, even with evidence of Russian secret service assassinations in countries across the globe.
 

Google translate works well.
 
so .. you want Russia to transact with whoever they like , , interesting

i bet North Korea will be a little happier to hear that , so might Iran and several other 'rogue nations '

given Russia's double-back on crypto-currencies even the crypto-folk might be happy Russia will be much more impressive than Salvador as a poster child

Russia ( and China ) are already happy to do direct goods swaps , i wonder if others would like that option
 
A complete turnaround, Europe agrees to cut off Russia from Swift and Germany is sending lethal military supplies to Ukraine. Pity this was not done a bit earlier as the supplies will now be difficult to distribute.

Yes, it does appear that Europe is finally awake, however it will take many years to catch up.

“I’m so angry at ourselves for our historical failure. After Georgia, Crimea, and Donbas, we have not prepared anything that would have really deterred Putin,” Ms Kramp-Karrenbauer said, referring to incursions carried out by Russia while Mrs Merkel was in power.
Her outburst came as the chief of the German land army, Alfons Mais, wrote that “the options we can offer to politicians to support (NATO) are extremely limited”.


 
A complete turnaround, Europe agrees to cut off Russia from Swift and Germany is sending lethal military supplies to Ukraine. Pity this was not done a bit earlier as the supplies will now be difficult to distribute.
Will be very interesting to see how history judges this
 
There are 9 countries close to & around Ukraine that in the past 10-15 year's have joined NATO where military bases have been set up in as a deterrent/threat to Russia - the only country still missing from this region is Ukraine itself - reason why the US & NATO really wanted to get Ukraine added to NATO - that way Russia would be completely circled from the south west to the north west by NATO/US alliance countries.

So Putin feels threatened by NATO & the West as he sees this as provocation at his door step so to speak - imagine Russia doing the same & circling America - would America just sit back & let it happen !?!? Surely not.

Putin decided to take matters into his hand as a result & try to re-claim Ukraine as the jigsaw puzzle country Russia couldn't afford to let NATO take control of.

Also, the US simply don't want Russia supplying oil & gas to Europe - can't have Russia being close to Europe supplying much needed gas to them !? that is too kind of them to do so helping out Europe in this way.

So another reason for the unfortunate escalation of Ukraine crisis that we see.

I hate war and unfortunately mankind hasn't learnt anything from previous war's - there are no winner's in war ever just misery & devastation. It's quite terrible & sad to see that mankind can't live peacefully together.

We really are a stupid species when you look at history & repeated mistakes we continually make thinking agression & war is the solution.
 
Germany has been a long time opponent of allowing Ukraine to join NATO
 
Germany has been a long time opponent of allowing Ukraine to join NATO

So have others.

13 Jan 2022 -



 
And from February 16, 2021 -

Why is Ukraine still not in NATO?

In a recent interview with Axios on HBO, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he would like to ask US President Joe Biden, “Why is Ukraine still not in NATO?”
President Zelenskyy’s question generated a lot of debate and ended up reaching a wide audience. Ever since, Ukrainian journalists have been asking me, “So why is Ukraine still not in NATO?” As I answered this question for the third or fourth time, I realized how satisfied I actually was with the way this discussion is evolving.
Why, indeed, is Ukraine not in NATO?
Today’s Ukraine is not only a security recipient, but a security donor in its region. Ukraine has been successfully countering Russian aggression for almost seven years now, protecting not only itself but a wider region between the Baltic and Black Seas. Ukraine has gained invaluable experience deterring Russian aggression on the traditional military battlefield and in the realm of hybrid warfare, which extends from cyber to disinformation and beyond. These factors would appear to make Ukraine a strong candidate for NATO membership.
That is the rational side to answering President Zelenskyy’s question. However, there is also an emotional side to consider. Perhaps the best way to understand this dialectic is by adopting a neuroscientific approach and exploring both the rational and the emotional approaches to Ukraine’s future membership in NATO.
Any rational analysis would include the need to further elevate the interoperability of the Ukrainian armed forces with their NATO colleagues. It would involve completing the implementation of NATO standards and continuing with the broader process of Euro-Atlantic reforms.
This is a challenging to-do list, but all of these stated objectives are absolutely achievable. Indeed, Ukraine has already made considerable progress along this path since 2014, and the process has recently gained added momentum in many areas.
The emotional side of the equation is far less straightforward. A combination of myths and fears immediately activates whenever the words “Ukraine” and “NATO” appear in the same sentence. Frequently, this hurricane of emotions overrides all logic or reason. Unlike the entirely rational to-do list, this emotional response is dangerously misleading and must be addressed accordingly.
In recent years, Russia has combined military operations with disinformation campaigns that are designed to justify its aggressive actions. A key theme has been the idea of a fundamentally defensive Russia forced to protect its borders from “NATO expansion.”
This entire narrative is based on long-debunked claims of a “pledge” made by the West to the Soviet Union not to expand NATO eastwards following the fall of the Berlin Wall. According to the Russian version of events, US Secretary of State James Baker promised Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990 that NATO would not move east if the USSR allowed the reunification of East and West Germany.
Archive documents prove that no such pledge was ever made. Even Gorbachev himself stated in October 2014 that the topic was not discussed at the time.
This makes sense. In early 1990, nobody would have considered the possibility of any Warsaw Pact countries even theoretically aspiring to NATO membership. Instead, the only discussions on NATO enlargement referred specifically to East Germany.
This somewhat primitive yet entirely characteristic deception has allowed Moscow to promote the myth of a duplicitous and expansionist NATO. Meanwhile, Russia is conveniently cast in the role of victim, forced to protect itself by occupying the lands of its neighbors. Unfortunately, many people around the world continue to be taken in by this hoax.
The myth of a besieged Russia gallantly defending itself against expansionist NATO forms a central part of the broader argument that the Western world should seek to avoid “provoking” Russia. One key lesson of the 2000s and 2010s is that nothing invites Kremlin aggression more than calls “not to provoke” Russia.
In reality, Moscow has always been good at selling fear. We should listen to Russia’s signals carefully, but we must not allow those signals to guide our hand on strategic decisions. In neuroscientific terms, Russia has always stimulated the limbic emotional system of NATO allies, while Ukraine has appealed to their frontal rational lobes. The limbic system is important, but it is the frontal lobes that move mankind forward...........

 
imagine Russia doing the same & circling America - would America just sit back & let it happen !?!? Surely not.
Could easily encircle part of it. Flush with success maybe Putin will be silly enough to want Alaska back. Soon, with climate change, he can invade Alaska by rowboat.
 
Enviromental crimes -

Russians blow up oil depot south of Kyiv​

Ukraine media is reporting that Russian forces have bombed an oil depot at Vasylkiv, 40km south of Kyiv.​
Local authorities are urging residents to shut their windows as toxic smoke is sent into the air.​
Vasylkiv mayor Nataliia Balasynovych has confirmed the explosion at the oil depot.​
 
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