U.S. Presidential Election 2020

[IFocus]

So nothing.

Trump is exposed to state attorney generals and there a number of cases pending , it will be a problem for Trump and his family particularly if the political winds start blowing against him, he has made many enemy's inside the GOP so it will be interesting.

I think Trump will be in trouble.

 

[IFocus]

As for voter fraud the international agency that over sees the US election each time has reported no fraud so far, this rings true as the Trump campaign has only made claims where they are losing the vote or its turning against them.

Unfortunately Trump continues to increase the divide and anger for his own benefit failing the leadership test again.

 

[moXJO]

As for voter fraud the international agency that over sees the US election each time has reported no fraud so far, this rings true as the Trump campaign has only made claims where they are losing the vote or its turning against them.

Unfortunately Trump continues to increase the divide and anger for his own benefit failing the leadership test again.

There's been a few cases so far. But not enough to change much. Some of the mail in Trump votes have been found all over the place. Dead people voting. Voter suppression. But nothing on a scale that would change Trumps chances.

I mentioned this way back before the election. Democrats ballot harvesting is a finely tuned machine. It was extremely well funded ( half a billion or more on dem spending) and had a lot of grassroots support.

If covid didn't come along that gave the dems the chance to change mail-in voting rules then dems would have lost by a large margin. (Un)fortunately that's not what happened.

I will say this: Trump did better than the polls were showing. He worked extremely hard doing 3-4 rallies a day. With all negative news media and big tech suppression. Truly was a grassroots effort. I think he had some of the largest turnouts for a president ever.

I'm wondering who will inspire his base. You also have a lot of Trump kids. I
f Biden doesn't hit the ground running (and not just for his supporters) he will be in a world of hurt in 2 years.

 

[moXJO]

I also wonder which direction dems will go regarding China and the Middle East.

Australia may have to backtrack and kiss Chinas ass again, while we diversify out.

 

[IFocus]

Trump getting the numbers he has is to me the story, hopefully its researched and deciphered why the US continues to buy into Trumps schtick.

Its helped me understand to a degree when Trump was described as "the US un-masked".

Having travelled the West Coast in the 80's the contradictions were extreme by any description in so called liberal states.

 

[wayneL]

I7

There's been a few cases so far. But not enough to change much. Some of the mail in Trump votes have been found all over the place. Dead people voting. Voter suppression. But nothing on a scale that would change Trumps chances.

I mentioned this way back before the election. Democrats ballot harvesting is a finely tuned machine. It was extremely well funded ( half a billion or more on dem spending) and had a lot of grassroots support.

If covid didn't come along that gave the dems the chance to change mail-in voting rules then dems would have lost by a large margin. (Un)fortunately that's not what happened.

I will say this: Trump did better than the polls were showing. He worked extremely hard doing 3-4 rallies a day. With all negative news media and big tech suppression. Truly was a grassroots effort. I think he had some of the largest turnouts for a president ever.

I'm wondering who will inspire his base. You also have a lot of Trump kids. I
f Biden doesn't hit the ground running (and not just for his supporters) he will be in a world of hurt in 2 years.

I think if the alleged fraud is fair dinkum, I think it most certainly would have been enough to change the election result.

My first client this morning is a retired barrister who has family in the law business in the u.s. (the US part of the family are dems by the way), and was on the phone to one of them when I arrived.

All are pretty certain that the election is in the process of being stolen.

Whether anything can effectively be done about it remains to be seen. Law, or rather, the practice of law, is some weird **** sometimes; justice is not always served by the law.

 

[satanoperca]

All are pretty certain that the election is in the process of being stolen.

Sounds like good old lawyer speak, say something that means nothing.

Stolen by whom and from whom?

 

[spooly74]

I7

I think if the alleged fraud is fair dinkum, I think it most certainly would have been enough to change the election result.

My first client this morning is a retired barrister who has family in the law business in the u.s. (the US part of the family are dems by the way), and was on the phone to one of them when I arrived.

All are pretty certain that the election is in the process of being stolen.

Whether anything can effectively be done about it remains to be seen. Law, or rather, the practice of law, is some weird **** sometimes; justice is not always served by the law.

The deviation in Michigan of registered voters to votes cast is off the charts from a historical perspective.
Apparently calculated at 1 in 2 Billion chance.

Dead people voting.
Nevada has over 9K suspected illegal votes & counting.
Videos of vote counters filling in ballots.
Postal service back dating late mail in ballots.
Dems not voting down ballot - This is the one that's really interesting. Did they not have time with a mail in ballot to vote in the House or Senate? or had to fill them in on the fly, again, unprecedented historically.

This isn't over by a long way.
I hope Trump fights to the death.

Merica is on the line.

 

[spooly74]

This is a federal crime.
This woman is going to a federal prison.

 

[satanoperca]

Nevada has over 9K suspected illegal votes & counting.

WOW, lets say that it was 90K all Dems, only 0.03% swing. Sorry Chump, you will need to prove widespread fraud. Glad he is not an engineer.

 

[wayneL]

One county

 

[basilio]

Donald Trump spoke publicly about the election and launched a series of allegations of electoral fraud by the Democrats to steal the election. Three major news organizations stopped filming the President because, as they said, "he was just talking lies with no evidence of any sort offered to substantiate his statements"

Shep Smith after interrupting the Press Conference went through the Trump allegations and fact checked each statement against reality.

Growing lead for Biden in Nevada and Pennsylvania – as it happened

Biden ahead of Trump in two key states while Georgia confirms recount – catch up with all the news as it happened

www.theguardian.com

 

[basilio]

This is a direct link to Shep Smiths deconstruction of Donald Trumps allegations of electoral fraud.

 

[spooly74]

Wisconsin
50K people voted down Rep ballot but not for Trump.
64K voted for Biden but not down ballot.

 

[moXJO]

I7

I think if the alleged fraud is fair dinkum, I think it most certainly would have been enough to change the election result.

My first client this morning is a retired barrister who has family in the law business in the u.s. (the US part of the family are dems by the way), and was on the phone to one of them when I arrived.

All are pretty certain that the election is in the process of being stolen.

Whether anything can effectively be done about it remains to be seen. Law, or rather, the practice of law, is some weird **** sometimes; justice is not always served by the law.

I hope they do find enough in the places where it was tight. But I can't see it being enough. Its definitely enough to take it to court in some states. Not enough to win.

But yes there were fraudulent efforts that just won't be abe to be proven. Not unless someone videoed it.

Media is already turning the narrative of "democracy at risk". It will be an even tougher 4 years for him.

 

[wayneL]

 

[satanoperca]

One county

Lets say it is true, need to determine if the majority of Fraud went to which side, what happens if it is balanced.

Everyone is assuming without evidence that the Fraud is committed by Dems because Chump says so, the guy that lies every second word.

Show some balanced evidence and there might be enough to go to court, at the moment it is just another conspiracy theory and many have been suckered into it.

Chump, blames everyone and says they are criminals, but is yet to get a prosecuction, on the side, some of his mates and in the big house, unless pardoned by the Chump himself.

 

[satanoperca]

Again, this is missing the crucial part, who did they vote for. Could be quite funny is they voted for Trump, but then again, he will just says it is fake.

 

[satanoperca]

“He’s not a war hero,” Mr Trump said of Mr McCain in 2015.

“He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

Pretty tough talk for a man that never served and against one of his own. Got to love the Chump man, he could have easily one, with the following piece of advice :

Before you speak or tweak, think about what you are saying.

Bad advice, that only would work on rational, logical humans.

 

[IFocus]

Sadly none of the court actions launch so far by Trump or others will change the out come, it appears to be about discrediting the election.

Sowing deeper divisions being the objective.

So much for public service.