Trump 2.0

[IFocus]

"Random person on the internet believes everything the TDS clickbait obsessed media says"

She made comments about nukes 3 months ago... Remember when we only needed one shot? Remember when we didn't need a vaccine passport? Remember when we wouldn't be shut down? Remember when Biden was coherent? Things change. 3 months is a long time.

They're all talking to the same people, same sources, same intelligence.

Oh and we need a nazi reference to talk about Trump... Chamberlain... Hitler... Things change in politics.

Trump has just said "she" was wrong maybe you should let Trump know it was 3 months ago?

TBH Trump and his administration / Republican party is such a clown show with endless material I don't bother posting there is just to much.

What's alarming is the silence / passive approval of Trumps storm troopers wearing masks sizing people of the streets and sending them out of the US without due process to concentration style camps in foreign countries.

That's the fall of democracy....

The Cult keeps cheering.

 

[JohnDe]

Trump has just said "she" was wrong maybe you should let Trump know it was 3 months ago?

TBH Trump and his administration / Republican party is such a clown show with endless material I don't bother posting there is just to much.

What's alarming is the silence / passive approval of Trumps storm troopers wearing masks sizing people of the streets and sending them out of the US without due process to concentration style camps in foreign countries.

That's the fall of democracy....

The Cult keeps cheering.

Why is it that you and basilo said nothing when the Biden administration did the exact same thing. Why?

3 million expulsions of migrants crossing the border irregularly that occurred under the pandemic-era Title 42 order between March 2020 and May 2023—the vast majority of which occurred under the Biden administration. Combining deportations with expulsions and other actions to block migrants without permission to enter the United States, the Biden administration’s nearly 4.4 million repatriations are already more than any single presidential term since the George W. Bush administration​

Migration report

 

[IFocus]

Why is it that you and basilo said nothing when the Biden administration did the exact same thing. Why?

3 million expulsions of migrants crossing the border irregularly that occurred under the pandemic-era Title 42 order between March 2020 and May 2023—the vast majority of which occurred under the Biden administration. Combining deportations with expulsions and other actions to block migrants without permission to enter the United States, the Biden administration’s nearly 4.4 million repatriations are already more than any single presidential term since the George W. Bush administration​

Migration report

Your link doesn't work.

Besides Trump got elected because Biden let everyone in who were apparently rapist and criminals, sorry but Trump would call the above "fake news".

 

[JohnDe]

Your link doesn't work.

Besides Trump got elected because Biden let everyone in who were apparently rapist and criminals, sorry but Trump would call the above "fake news".

MIGRATION INFORMATION SOURCE

 

[DB008]

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[IFocus]

MIGRATION INFORMATION SOURCE

Thanks good article, if you read down there is no mention of Biden acting outside of due process i.e. acting outside the laws made by the people (Congress / Senate) also no challenges to the actions of the Biden administration.

It dose however mention concerns with the Trump proposals (this is written before Trumps re-election I assume) being illegal which what all the concerns are now acting outside of due process and then fighting the matters through courts.

In a Liberal Democracy if you as an administration and want to carry out actions laws must be existing or passed accordingly so they can be carried out.

Trump is writing his own laws to circumnavigate the above which is the path of pretty much every fascist dictator ever (Putin being a prime example).

 

[wayneL]

Two tier Democrats:

 

[basilio]

Talking about Bombing Iran and what should we learn.
This is a long read but IMV very informative.

Everyone Is Asking the Wrong Question About Iran​

Emergency Triad: There are three important questions that can be answered, right now. Not one of them is about “should.”​

Jonathan V. Last Jun 23

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Over the last 48 hours most discussion has focused on whether or not America should have attacked Iran.
This is the wrong question because,

1. That decision is ultimately a judgment call, with no objective answer.
2. The net outcome of the U.S. attack cannot be known on a near time horizon.

At some point we will know enough to make a reasonable judgment weighing the cost/benefit of this strike. That point is weeks—or months, or maybe even years—in the future.¹

Instead, we should be focusing on three knowable questions that can be answered—objectively—right now.

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1. Does Iran still possess a nuclear program?
On June 21, President Trump said that the U.S. military had struck the nuclear facilities at Fordo, Natanz, and Esfahan. He claimed that, “Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.”

On June 22, SecDef Pete Hegseth agreed with the president’s claim: “Many presidents have dreamed of delivering the final blow to Iran’s nuclear program, and none could, until President Trump.”

Immediately after Hegseth spoke, Gen. Dan Caine, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, contradicted both the president and SecDef.
“Final battle damage will take some time, but initial battle damage assessments indicate that all three sites sustained extremely severe damage and destruction, Gen. Caine said.

A reporter then asked Gen. Caine: “[Y]ou said the battle damage assessment is still ongoing, but do you believe that some nuclear capability in Iran remains?

Caine’s response: “I think BDA is still pending, and it would be way too early for me to comment on what may or may not still be there.”
So the president and secretary of Defense say that Iran’s facilities were “completely and totally obliterated” and that Iran’s nuclear program has been “dealt the final blow.”

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs says that it is much too early to give any sort of accurate assessment of the damage done.
Either the general, or the president and his Sec Def, are lying to the American public.
Which is it?

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2. What are the American government’s war aims?²
President Trump said on June 21 that “if peace does not come quickly, we will go after those other targets in Iran.”
On the morning of June 22, Vice President JD Vance said, “Were not at war with Iran, we’re at war with Iran’s nuclear program.” Also on the morning of June 22, SecDef Hegseth said that, “This mission was not and has not been about regime change.”
Nine hours later President Trump tweeted,

Let’s take this one step at a time
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What is the “peace” that Trump is demanding from Iran? Iran is not currently engaged in state-level hostilities against America, so it can’t be the case that he wants the Iranians to stop shooting at us—because they aren’t.³

Perhaps when Trump says “peace” he means that Iran must satisfy some American conditions for the abandonment of their nuclear program. If so, this is a reasonable aim.

Except that Trump has already stated that Iran no longer has a nuclear program. It has been “completely and totally obliterated” and dealt “the final blow.” So—in Trump’s telling—they have nothing to give up.

So what are Trump’s conditions for “peace,” then? What new “targets” is he contemplating? Is the U.S. aim regime change? Or not? Or is the administration agnostic on whether or not the Iranian regime remains?

In war, you do not walk into a room unless you know how to walk out of it. The Trump administration’s position could have been something like:

This strike was designed to hobble the Iranian nuclear program and reset the clock on their ability to make progress toward a weapon. That mission was accomplished.

This would have been a well-defined and important mission. Instead, we have a hodgepodge of war aims that change by the hour alongside an inability even to understand the results of what just happened.
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3. What is the state of American intelligence?

In March, the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, testified that, “The [intelligence community] continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon.”

The Trump administration has subsequently claimed that Iran was, in fact, sprinting toward a nuclear weapon. When asked about his DNI’s assessment, Trump replied, “She’s wrong.” And: “I don’t care what she says.”
This is an urgent national security matter:

• Why does Trump believe his DNI was wrong?
• Did Gabbard misrepresent American intelligence findings to the president? Or was the American intelligence itself incorrect?
• Did Trump receive intel from another source that he believed disproved what his own DNI had showed him?
• Why is Gabbard still the DNI? By the president’s own account, she gave him faulty intelligence on a matter of that led to American involvement in a shooting war.
• Can American intelligence be trusted at all right now?
• Is Trump relying on American intelligence to make his decisions surrounding this crisis? Or is he relying primarily on intelligence from other sources?

Either Operation Midnight Hammer was a mistake, OR it represents the greatest failure of American intelligence since Iraq (but in the other direction).

Which is it? And if it’s the latter, what is the administration doing to fix our intel operations?

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A month from now the attack on Iran might be seen as a masterstroke.

Maybe we set the Iranian nuclear program back several years. Maybe we dealt it a fatal blow, even. Maybe Iran remains reasonably stable; or the regime topples and is replaced in an orderly manner by a regime more hospitable to U.S. interests. Maybe Iran will have been exposed as a paper tiger unable to retaliate in meaningful ways.

And if that’s where we land: Great. The world will be a better place if the evil Iranian regime is not on the path to being a nuclear power and disarming them carried no great cost.

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There are other, less rosy scenarios. But we don’t need to imagine them at this moment. The die is cast. We will get what we get. But even if we get that best-case result, the manner in which the administration has conducted itself is dangerous.

Either the president, or the senior-most officer in the U.S. military, lied to the American public.

We have shifted our war aims repeatedly, and demonstrated that this administration is unable to hold to a consistent, coherent goal.
The president says that our intelligence community made a grave error—and yet he is not cleaning house and rebuilding it. The DNI is a woman who has failed the most important test of her career and lost the confidence of the president. Yet she remains in her post.

I don’t want to confuse process and results. The best process does not always yield a good result. And sometimes a bad process gets lucky and delivers a great result. We are consigned to hoping for the latter.

Good luck, America.
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I don’t mean this in the Chinese proverb sense. With Trump’s assassination of Qassem Soleimani, we knew within a couple of weeks that it was a net benefit.

With Bill Clinton’s air strikes on Iraq in 1988, we did not know for several years that the operation was a strategic failure.
The time horizon on outcomes varies widely when it comes to military action.
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Gen. Mark Hertling has a lot more about this on the homepage—read the whole thing.
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Iran is instead waging a decades-long grey-zone war against America through sponsorship of terrorist organizations, cyberattacks, political warfare, attempted assassinations, and the occasional hostage-taking. All of that is very bad and represents sufficient reason for America to take a hard-line against Iran.

But none of it has anything to do with the targets the U.S. military hit on June 21.

 

[JohnDe]

Two tier Democrats:

Educated people understand the threat that Iran poses to the world and its citizens that do not follow the religious beliefs of the Iranian leader Khamenei

Israel - Iran: how 46 years of proxy war led to this conflict

 

[JohnDe]

Anthony Albanese declares Australia backs US strikes to stop Iran’s nuclear program​

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Anthony Albanese has reiterated that his government backs the US strikes on Iranian nuclear sites but that it does not want to see an “escalation and a full-scale war” following the attack.​

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“The world has long agreed that Iran cannot be allowed to get a nuclear weapon and we support action to prevent that – that is what this is,” the Prime Minister said at a press conference in Canberra on Monday morning.​

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“The US action was directed at specific sites central to Iran’s nuclear program. We don’t want escalation and a full-scale war. We continue to call for dialogue and for diplomacy.​

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“As I have said for many days now, we are deeply concerned about any escalation in the region and we want to see diplomacy, dialogue and de-escalation.”​

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Mr Albanese called on Iran to “not to take any further action that could destabilise the region”.​

 

[wayneL]

Anthony Albanese declares Australia backs US strikes to stop Iran’s nuclear program​

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Anthony Albanese has reiterated that his government backs the US strikes on Iranian nuclear sites but that it does not want to see an “escalation and a full-scale war” following the attack.​

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“The world has long agreed that Iran cannot be allowed to get a nuclear weapon and we support action to prevent that – that is what this is,” the Prime Minister said at a press conference in Canberra on Monday morning.​

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“The US action was directed at specific sites central to Iran’s nuclear program. We don’t want escalation and a full-scale war. We continue to call for dialogue and for diplomacy.​

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“As I have said for many days now, we are deeply concerned about any escalation in the region and we want to see diplomacy, dialogue and de-escalation.”​

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Mr Albanese called on Iran to “not to take any further action that could destabilise the region”.​

Hedging.

 

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[JohnDe]

My American cousin went to a concert and sent me a photo and said that there was no violence and no anger. Who would have thought.

 

[basilio]

Meanwhile back in they US where Regime Change has to be on the agenda.
I have only posted half the story.

Disgusting​

Forget regime change in Iran, how about here?​

Matt Labash
Jun 25, 2025



Making the world safe from IHOP landscapers! Good job, federales!

Don’t pour yourself a whiskey and get too comfortable, settling in for protracted Slack Tide goodness. This isn’t a real piece, where I tap dance and dazzle you with wordplay, as is our custom around these parts. It’s just a short, blunt, angry cry. Watch this video of masked ICE goons (and how are people supposed to know that they’re ICE, when most of the time, they don’t even identify themselves, just going in for the snatch’n’grab?) detaining one of those dangerous criminals President Trump promised to send packing. If by “dangerous criminal,” you mean the guy weed-whacking down at the local IHOP. What a relief he’s off the street!

His name is Narciso Barranco. You’d think President Trump would have some affinity for him, since his first name derives from the name, “Narcissus,” who in Greek mythology, fell in love with his own reflection. Yeah, he’s an undocumented migrant, who has been here for many years. But according to CNN, he raised three sons who love their country and that are U.S. Marines. So you might argue that he’s paid the country back with interest for jumping the line. While doing a hard, physical job that nine-tenths of us gringos wouldn’t be caught dead doing. (I can barely stand to weed-whack at my own house, and I live here.)

According to one of his sons, even after Barranco was arrested, pepper sprayed, had his shoulder dislocated, was beaten bloody, and stowed away in detention where he’s getting water roughly once a day, relieves himself in a room with 70 other people, and still hasn’t been allowed to change his bloody clothes or wash his bloody face (as testified to in an appearance a son just made on Nicolle Wallace’s MSNBC show), he asked his son to finish the job that he was in the middle of doing when arrested. Good help is hard to find. Maybe it’s in America’s best interest not to slam their head on the pavement, and treat them like they’re sub-human.

Disgusting

Forget regime change in Iran, how about here?

mattlabash.substack.com

 

[JohnDe]

"You know what, we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the f**k they're doing,"

Trump's f-bomb is one missile that could sway Benjamin Netanyahu

In his first comments since the alleged ceasefire between Israel and Iran was announced, the US President let rip, and Israel's PM heard him loud and clear.

www.abc.net.au

Meanwhile back in they US where Regime Change has to be on the agenda.
I have only posted half the story.

Disgusting​

Forget regime change in Iran, how about here?​

Matt Labash
Jun 25, 2025


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Making the world safe from IHOP landscapers! Good job, federales!

Don’t pour yourself a whiskey and get too comfortable, settling in for protracted Slack Tide goodness. This isn’t a real piece, where I tap dance and dazzle you with wordplay, as is our custom around these parts. It’s just a short, blunt, angry cry. Watch this video of masked ICE goons (and how are people supposed to know that they’re ICE, when most of the time, they don’t even identify themselves, just going in for the snatch’n’grab?) detaining one of those dangerous criminals President Trump promised to send packing. If by “dangerous criminal,” you mean the guy weed-whacking down at the local IHOP. What a relief he’s off the street!

His name is Narciso Barranco. You’d think President Trump would have some affinity for him, since his first name derives from the name, “Narcissus,” who in Greek mythology, fell in love with his own reflection. Yeah, he’s an undocumented migrant, who has been here for many years. But according to CNN, he raised three sons who love their country and that are U.S. Marines. So you might argue that he’s paid the country back with interest for jumping the line. While doing a hard, physical job that nine-tenths of us gringos wouldn’t be caught dead doing. (I can barely stand to weed-whack at my own house, and I live here.)

According to one of his sons, even after Barranco was arrested, pepper sprayed, had his shoulder dislocated, was beaten bloody, and stowed away in detention where he’s getting water roughly once a day, relieves himself in a room with 70 other people, and still hasn’t been allowed to change his bloody clothes or wash his bloody face (as testified to in an appearance a son just made on Nicolle Wallace’s MSNBC show), he asked his son to finish the job that he was in the middle of doing when arrested. Good help is hard to find. Maybe it’s in America’s best interest not to slam their head on the pavement, and treat them like they’re sub-human.

Disgusting

Forget regime change in Iran, how about here?

mattlabash.substack.com

Why is something that is happening on the other side of the world "disgusting" to you, but what happened here is not? You don't have to answer, I already know that it is an extreme left reaction only to governments of the right while silent to the governments of the left.


Remember this - Victoria police for using 'unlawful violence' against COVID protesters, what did you post and scream about then?

 

[Knobby22]

Trump did very well keeping Israel from breaking the truce.
Very well handled. He really let them know his thoughts and they backed off. Deserves recognition.

Let's see what the peace treaty becomes. No one has any trust in Iran.

Some of the Trump quotes.

"Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before, the biggest load that we've seen," he said.

"So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning, because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land."

"ISRAEL is not going to attack Iran," he posted on his Truth Social platform.

"All planes will turn around and head home, while doing a friendly 'Plane Wave' to Iran. Nobody will be hurt, the Ceasefire is in effect!

"Thank you for your attention to this matter!"

 

[JohnDe]

Trump did very well keeping Israel from breaking the truce.
Very well handled. He really let them know his thoughts and they backed off. Deserves recognition.

Let's see what the peace treaty becomes. No one has any trust in Iran.

Some of the Trump quotes.

"Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before, the biggest load that we've seen," he said.

"So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning, because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land."

"ISRAEL is not going to attack Iran," he posted on his Truth Social platform.

"All planes will turn around and head home, while doing a friendly 'Plane Wave' to Iran. Nobody will be hurt, the Ceasefire is in effect!

"Thank you for your attention to this matter!"

I am surprised that Iran & Israel came back to the ceasefire agreement, but I think it is because Trump blew his top at Netanyahu and demanded that he turn Israel's bombers around and not drop a single bomb. And it looks like they have started talks about the nuclear program.

The only way that the Middle East will get to long lasting peace is for countries like Iran stop their mission to kill all Israeli people and stop educating their children of that mission.

 

[Knobby22]

I am surprised that Iran & Israel came back to the ceasefire agreement, but I think it is because Trump blew his top at Netanyahu and demanded that he turn Israel's bombers around and not drop a single bomb. And it looks like they have started talks about the nuclear program.

The only way that the Middle East will get to long lasting peace is for countries like Iran stop their mission to kill all Israeli people and stop educating their children of that mission.

The Trumpster want wants to get the Nobel Peace Prize.
That sleaze Putin rang Trump today and asked if he needed help with Iran.
Pleased Trump came back with "No, I need help from you!"

He isn't going to get a peace prize if he walks away from Ukraine and he realises that.
If he resolves that issue, I think he would deserve one. This means getting tough on Russia and stop giving Putin a free ride.

 

[JohnDe]

The Trumpster want wants to get the Nobel Peace Prize.
That sleaze Putin rang Trump today and asked if he needed help with Iran.
Pleased Trump came back with "No, I need help from you!"

He isn't going to get a peace prize if he walks away from Ukraine and he realises that.
If he resolves that issue, I think he would deserve one. This means getting tough on Russia and stop giving Putin a free ride.

I suppose we all need goals in life, but a Nobel Peace Prize? I suppose anything is possible, but I'd be very surprised.