Yes prepare for the union ad soundbites on Abbott’s latest gaffe and mix it in with workchoices scare campaign.
. In Krudd's corner is the unions saying Marius is just another greedy fat cat and Abbott is itching to get into bed with 'Work Choices, the Sequel'.
Lol. At least it is entertaining this time around.
Turnbull is damaged goods due to his position on the ETS but the way Abbott is going it does increasingly become a choice between who is less damaged.Abbott is soiled goods now - they may as well put Turnbull back in there or give Hockey a go, they can't do any worse.
It's like Keating vs Downer (without trying to overly smear Keating with the Rudd comparison), they just have to stand back and watch as Abbott chains himself to the floor and whips himself with his free hand. For all the political grief Labour should be experiencing for the back-flips and the RSPT it's comparatively easy politics for them at the moment.
Yes you nailed it - I am totally at a loss as to who I will be voting for at the coming election.The high road is currently a very lonely place in Australian politics and at the time when good leadership and vision is more critical than ever from an economic perspective.
Why would business regard them (Tanner and Smith) as worse than Rudd and Swan, moXJO?Business would go into shock if that combo ever came up
Go for reduced wastage and fiscal conservatism. That rules out one contender.Yes you nailed it - I am totally at a loss as to who I will be voting for at the coming election.
Bingo!Maybe the answer is to get rid of compulsory voting so that I do not have to live with the fact that I voted for either of these clowns come election time.
Just as the UK seems to be about to embrace it? To replace it with what? FPTP is deeply flawed and so easy to gerrymander.Otherwise get rid of the preference system so I can vote for a minotity party without having my vote tainted.
Please, someone resurrect the Australian Democrats so we can 'keep these b*stards honest.
Turnbull is damaged goods due to his position on the ETS but the way Abbott is going it does increasingly become a choice between who is less damaged.
Why would business regard them (Tanner and Smith) as worse than Rudd and Swan, moXJO?
I still haven't forgiven the Democrats for butchering the GST.Yes, so long as they don't lurch to the socialist left like the last lot of muppets did.
Tony, Tony, Tony!!
After a very strong performance with his budget reply (which was supported by a lift in the polls), Rudds performance on 7:30Report last week and having almost EVERY MAJOR POLITICAL COMMENTATOR talking of Rudd's potential demise - he goes and produces a performance like that!!!
And to top it off - Hockey head to head with TannerLindsay is a career public servant and speaks like it. He is an accomplished political performer and knows the buttons to press, so when he's up against a lightweight like Hockey he sounds very impressive.
My final comment would be that a week is a long time in politics. As Christopher Pyne said this morning, "since the last election Rudd has had 47 backflips, Abbott has had 1". Before we get Abbott's headstone organised, lets see how the next couple of weeks play out. I know the media outlets are excited by it at the moment, but if something more juicy takes their interest, they'll drop it like a stone.
Duckman
Yes Duckman I agree.
IMHO Abbott has tried TO portray himself as an honest down to earth politiciatn by admitting his mistakes. It a pity Rudd and his team of gangsters did not take a leaf out of Abbott's book and be honest with people for once in their lives.
Tanner was caught out by a young lady on Q & A last night regarding how the 9-12% increase would be paid. She said "you (Tanner) stated some time back, the increase would affect wages", but last night he denied he said it and lied about it untill she said "Mr.Tanner I have you on my I-Pod, would like to listen to what you said then." So as I say it is a pity Labor politicians wern't honest enough to admit their mistakes instead of capitalizing on the one mistake Abbott has made.
GET OVER YOURSELVES.
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Probably right in that he doesn't polarise voters to the same degree that Abbott does. But the polls showed he was not at all popular.He's not electoral'y damaged...just damaged within the right wing of his party, i would think his creditability with the electorate in general is probably the highest of any potential liberal leader
Thanks. I'm quite ignorant about the influence of factions in the Labor Party.Ill get in before moXJO...Tanner and Gillard are members of the Labor Left faction, apparently there has never been a Labor PM from the Left faction before...Smith is from the right so prob PM material.
Agree. When I arrived in Australia, Keating was in power and I was quite impressed with Cheryl Kernot leading the Democrats. If she hadn't succumbed to the, um, desires of the flesh and flitted off to join Mr Evans and the Labor Party, much may have been different. It was all downhill from there for the Democrats.I still haven't forgiven the Democrats for butchering the GST.
IFocus, I don't really think so. They just seem to be floundering about because of the lack of any real political talent.Maybe the extreme right believe in their divine right to rule and don't have to worry about such things?
You might be right, Noco, and your view was born out by callers to ABC Local Radio this evening, most of whom said they didn't think less of Mr Abbott after last night's interview, feeling that he was simply being straight up about what all politicians do.
I suppose we're so used to spin and double talk (especially with Rudd) that when someone is painfully honest about himself, we find it unacceptable.
Somewhere there has to be a line between Rudd's totally manufactured image and Abbott's exposing of all his most innermost flaws for all to see.
Probably right in that he doesn't polarise voters to the same degree that Abbott does. But the polls showed he was not at all popular.
It would have been interesting to see how he polled these days when the government has fallen from grace so badly.
Thanks. I'm quite ignorant about the influence of factions in the Labor Party.
Does that mean no one from the Left could ever be PM? Isn't Julia Gillard from the Left?
Agree. When I arrived in Australia, Keating was in power and I was quite impressed with Cheryl Kernot leading the Democrats. If she hadn't succumbed to the, um, desires of the flesh and flitted off to join Mr Evans and the Labor Party, much may have been different. It was all downhill from there for the Democrats.
No way the Greens are any sort of substitute.
IFocus, I don't really think so. They just seem to be floundering about because of the lack of any real political talent.
Further, would suggest that they have decided Tony Abbott needs to differentiate himself from Rudd as strongly as possible. Therefore, Rudd being all spin, superficiality and insincerity, they've decided Abbott should present himself as Mr Honest, Flaws and All.
So far, if that is indeed what they are attempting, the idea is a pretty ghastly failure.
IFocus, I don't really think so. They just seem to be floundering about because of the lack of any real political talent.
Further, would suggest that they have decided Tony Abbott needs to differentiate himself from Rudd as strongly as possible. Therefore, Rudd being all spin, superficiality and insincerity, they've decided Abbott should present himself as Mr Honest, Flaws and All.
So far, if that is indeed what they are attempting, the idea is a pretty ghastly failure.
People have warmed to him because his party has a better economic record and is seen as the answer to the nightmare Australia is in. To label people right wing for simply wanting better life conditions is not cool.To be fair to Abbott he has reclaimed the Right Wing base plus more better than expected.
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