What's TA offering as a counter to Rudd's lack of substance? i don't think a lack of platform or policy wins over perceived lack of substance...first the Noalition has to stand for something, i don't think winding back the clock is actually "something"
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
Abbott walks the walk his problem is he doesnt talk the talk.
Very reasonable questions.What is Rudd offereing apart from trying to sort out the internal Labor problems? That is all we seem to be hearing about ATM.
No election date.
No solution to the ever increasing boat arrivals.
Whether he going to scarp the Carbon TAX for a floating ETS.
How is he going tp pay back the $300 billion he has borrowed?
What savings is he going to make or will he keep throwing money around like a drunken sailor until election day?
How is he going to assist low paid workers who are struggling under increased living cost created by Labor over the last 6 years?
How is going to build confidence in the business world?
All we seem to hear is what a good fellow Kevin Rudd is and what he is 'gonna' do with reforming the Labor Party.
He is all smoke and mirrors like Mandrake the magician. Very trickey and very clever with all his spin and usual rhetoric.
Now please don't come and ask what Abbott will do, for what ever ideas Abbott will promote Labor will say me too. Just recently Labor has stolen Abbotts idea with the illegal boaties to process those with IDs first and are now wanting to take credit it for it.
Labor is in Government and Labor should be the ones coming up with solutions to fix their own mess. Abbott has every right to wait untill the election is called before releasing any more policies.
How so? He basically stole over $10000 from you and me, the Australian taxpayer, only paying it back after being caught. It's not like he discovered a mistake and sorted it out.
I don't understand why people on this forum seem to attack the smallest issue for the ALP, yet they gloss over something so glaringly wrong. If Tony can't distinguish between work and non work travel claims, then why should he expect to be PM?
The real question is, did he put the claims in well knowing he was ripping us off, or was he just so inept he got things mixed up? Either way he's definitely showing he's not the brightest lamp in the tanning bed.
Actually, I'd call it restoring prudence and sanity.
How so? He basically stole over $10000 from you and me, the Australian taxpayer, only paying it back after being caught. It's not like he discovered a mistake and sorted it out.
I don't understand why people on this forum seem to attack the smallest issue for the ALP, yet they gloss over something so glaringly wrong. If Tony can't distinguish between work and non work travel claims, then why should he expect to be PM?
The real question is, did he put the claims in well knowing he was ripping us off, or was he just so inept he got things mixed up? Either way he's definitely showing he's not the brightest lamp in the tanning bed.
Got a link
Nvm found it on an Abbott hate site that is pushing it. Its from back in 2010. Ill dig around
I understood he was cleared of any deliberate wrong doing some time ago. It could easily have been a staff member who inadvertently included that in the expense claim. If it was a mistake then it would only be fair to allow repayment.
Was Slipper's cab charges inadvertent? Slipper is still being investigated whereas it appears Abbott wa cleared of any deliberate wrong doing.
I don't think people on ASF are "average", although I do agree with your point.There are plenty of posts on here that dont rate any better. How do you define "average"?. Five minutes on ASF can have the same result.
But the "average" Winnie was referring to are people with no idea of the basic platform/ideology of the parties and vote based on the perceptions presented to them by the media and/or how "likeable" the leader is... or how they were indoctrinated to vote by their parents.
Yeah thats the site.
Im not interested in a bunch of abbott haters opinons though, was it true the reporter who questioned abbott was a labor stooge?
Was Slipper's cab charges inadvertent? Slipper is still being investigated whereas it appears Abbott wa cleared of any deliberate wrong doing.
167 I reject those arguments. In my opinion, Mr Ashby included the Cabcharge allegations in the originating application for the predominant purpose of injuring Mr Slipper and assisting a political attack on him to benefit Mr Brough and the LNP. This is emphasised by his decision to include the assertion that he intended to report the matter to the Australian Federal Police. Mr Russell QC had told him, in Mr Brough’s presence, two weeks before the originating application was filed that he was free to do so if he was concerned about Mr Slipper’s conduct. Mr Ashby did not do so. Instead, he waited to announce his “intention” to do so in the originating application knowing that this would be reported in the media. His statement that he “intended” to make the report was itself made two months after the alleged conduct last occurred and over one month after Mr Ashby had requested that he be allowed to travel at his own expense with Mr Slipper on an overseas trip.
But the "average" Winnie was referring to are people with no idea of the basic platform/ideology of the parties and vote based on the perceptions presented to them by the media and/or how "likeable" the leader is... or how they were indoctrinated to vote by their parents.
I'd not harp on it, except for the way Aboott was so vicious over Peter Slipper. Slipper was for $900 whereas Abbott was for over 10K, so why is Slipper up on charges and Abbott allowed to repay?
What's TA offering as a counter to Rudd's lack of substance? i don't think a lack of platform or policy wins over perceived lack of substance...first the Noalition has to stand for something, i don't think winding back the clock is actually "something"
KRudd has Abbott's measure.
A very good post Bushman.
Encapsulates the dilemma for voters.
Methinks that KRudd is a Princess Diana figure, destined for hubris.
Abbott is a strong character.
Who knows how Mr. and Mrs. Shoppingtrolley will vote?
They certainly have wobbly wheels.
Rudd will meet his Dodi, either as PM or in opposition.
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