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I suppose you will now do the decent thing and resign from the Greens.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-...fires-up-farmers/story-fngw0i02-1226551587643
Having started out at 14 years on the back of one of the Hawkesdale West fire-trucks holding a trailing wick when we did the two chain firebreaks, fighting them and later co-ordinating in my career I have also taken as now a close interest in the fire seasons and the effectiveness of control
ANGRY farmers have accused the Tasmanian Labor-Greens government and its Environment Department of stopping them burning bush undergrowth during cool months, a move that might have slowed or stopped the ferocious fires that roared through the state's southeast last weekend.
I suppose you will now do the decent thing and resign from the Greens.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-...fires-up-farmers/story-fngw0i02-1226551587643
Says Plod with child-like innocence.Why?
How about some reasons?
Mr Arnold applied in August 2011 for a permit to spring burn some of the build-up of weeds and scrub undergrowth beneath blue gums covering Steele's Hill that runs the length of his now-blackened 1000ha property.
He said it would have been a nice and steady little fire after winter that slowly crept through the bush, destroying the high fuel load.
He was knocked back because Steele's Hill and its blue gums contained a wedgetail eagle's nest and was classed as foraging habitat for the endangered swift parrot.
"I took that to mean that the bird might call in for lunch occasionally," a frustrated Mr Arnold said yesterday.
"But I look at the devastation there today and ask where the Greens are? But they are more concerned about the pattern on their cappuccino in Salamanca than what has happened here on our farms this week."
Mr Arnold said he could not say for sure that if he had been allowed to burn off Steele's Hill in the springs of 2011 and 2012, that the bushfire could have been stopped on his farm before it roared down into the small Connelly's Marsh beach community destroying more than 15 homes.
"But it would have helped," he said. "When it came over the top of that hill it was throwing fireballs 500m ahead; there is a fair chance it wouldn't have been like that. Fuel reduction burns make it possible to fight and control a fire.
Says Plod with child-like innocence.
Obviously you didn't read the link. The Greens opposition to controlled fuel reduction borders on criminality.
I know this is off topic Plod, but if you want to defend your association with these psychopaths there is a more appropriate thread.
I'm late to this thread so apologies, but decided to add a comment rather than just address my monitor.
The whole Abbott the Firefighter issue boils down to one of respect for me.
If he had joined the firefighting purely to get his head in the paper - I would respect him less.
The fact that he is a longstanding member of the voluntary fire service and is out there doing what he would have done prior to being leader of the opposition - makes me respect him a little more.
Explod's argument that he is "too important" to be on the front line is an outdated one, a la the monarchy, in my opinion. I think people like to see their leaders setting an example and leading from the front these days, rather than directing proceedings from a position of safety. Again, comes back to the "respect factor". Although he's potentially placing himself in harm's way, the statistical chances of permanent damage to his leadership abilities are low, and heaven knows no leader of a political party is beyond being replaced these days in any case
As far as the media coverage is concerned - again I see things a little differently. Given the sustained image-tarnishing that has been in vogue in politics, I see it as his duty to his party and his supporters to do all in his power to improve public perception of "Abbott the man". If he truly believes he's the best person to lead our country, than he should seize every opportunity to get himself into a position to do so - tacky, opportune, or not. As the ALP seem intent on playing the man rather than the ball, it would be almost irresponsible of him not to take advantage of any positive media he can get - especially since it is doing something that he's done for several years, but is largely unknown to the Australian public. The average voter is not quite as stupid as our pollies or the media sometimes seem to assume - most of us have a bullsh!t filter and can tell the genuine motivations from the purely gratuitous photo op. As noco pointed out - sometimes an absence also speaks volumes!
I know this is off topic Plod, but if you want to defend your association with these psychopaths there is a more appropriate thread.
Good post.
Sorry to intrude.
I don't think it is off topic in the least, Calliope.
It is a good reason to have Tony Abbott as PM, to put an end to all this ideological interference in people's lives and work.
gg
A poll on mamamia - this site seems to be quite strongly anti-Abbott, however, their poll gives different results:
Who's your preferred PM?
Tony Abbott (45%, 9,182 Votes)
Julia Gillard (31%, 6,393 Votes)
Malcolm Turnbull (10%, 1,963 Votes)
Kevin Rudd (6%, 1,254 Votes)
Joe Hockey (5%, 1,066 Votes)
Tanya Plibersek (3%, 439 Votes)
Poll is still open and currently has over 20,000 votes!
http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/this-is-why-the-mamamia-crowd-are-suspicious-of-tony-abbott/
Greens are trying to save the bush and the ecosystems habitats which in fact support each other.
A poll on mamamia - this site seems to be quite strongly anti-Abbott, however, their poll gives different results:
Who's your preferred PM?
Tony Abbott (45%, 9,182 Votes)
Julia Gillard (31%, 6,393 Votes)
Malcolm Turnbull (10%, 1,963 Votes)
Kevin Rudd (6%, 1,254 Votes)
Joe Hockey (5%, 1,066 Votes)
Tanya Plibersek (3%, 439 Votes)
Poll is still open and currently has over 20,000 votes!
http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/this-is-why-the-mamamia-crowd-are-suspicious-of-tony-abbott/
Another plus for Tony, my contacts on the Sunshine Coast tell me, is that Kevin Rudd is gearing up for his last tilt at Julia in February. He is a bit like Dracula, always ready to rear up again when one least expects.
gg
Nope, Abbott ran it out on Twitter.
Rudd (if he has another go) will get a lot closer than last time. They know an election is coming.I don't think he can roll her, she just has to put the leather on and get the whip out and all her neutered lap dogs fall into line.
That is not correct according to the ABC's The Drum broadcast a few days ago. When two of the panelists were assuming Abbott had tweeted about his involvement, the presenter corrected them and said that the information came from a Liberal party statement. The confusion seems to be because the Labor MP (O'Connor?) who initially attacked Abbott's involvement as being a stunt, used Twitter to do so.
I do not know what the content of Liberal Party's press statement was. It may have just been factual information concerning the whereabouts of their leader.
Young LNP President Ben Riley tweets yesterday:
TO be fair Julia Gillard has engaged in volunteer work too. Remember, she (helped) set up the AWU slush fund for her then boyfriend pro-bono.
Somebody asked the question of what volunteer work Ms Gillard has done.
Young LNP President Ben Riley tweets yesterday:
TO be fair Julia Gillard has engaged in volunteer work too. Remember, she (helped) set up the AWU slush fund for her then boyfriend pro-bono.
Firstly, Calliope is in the wrong thread, this is the "Tony Abbott for PM" thread, not the "Julia Gillard is a Bitch" thread.
Firstly, Calliope is in the wrong thread, this is the "Tony Abbott for PM" thread, not the "Julia Gillard is a Bitch" thread.
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