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Having said the above....
When I am designing something I try not to use preconceived ideas. I am distrustful of the statement "everyone knows". To give you some background I currently have a long-term portfolio that is based on blue chip shares from the ASX 200 with over ten years of history. Whilst I do not hold 200 stocks in that portfolio, it is balanced against the ASX200 index - requiring a weighting that you've stated is ridiculous...yet it meets the goals that I have set for that portfolio. It works very well for what I am trying to achieve.
The answer to that question from my perspective is...perhaps. It depends upon the power law and level of return that your strategy operates under. If your system compounds gains, then it only takes very small gains over a ten year period to make it more than worthwhile to expose yourself to a single outsize risk depending upon the frequency of that event. Unfortunately without data it is a moot question.
You've mentioned trading, but what I am seeing is not a "trading" system as I would normally define that. It's kind of a hybrid. You are buying and holding the core portfolio. You are not trading the core portfolio, seeking instead to profit in other means, so the question to me is why are you applying traders rules rather than fund manager rules? Is it of benefit to do so?
Hence my comment on only -1% capital ?? Call is at 4200 for mine before upward trend. Bit more pus to be squeezed out of this boil before the "story tellers" come out to play.
I wonder what the "story tellers" announced at 11.15am today? Sorry I was a bit off at 4188. How did the hedge go TH ??
Have I at least convinced you I'm not being a pr!ck and we can discuss these things calmly?Sir O you haven't convinced me in any way.
Counter these points.
Even if i did have backtesting results that remove the survivorship bias of using current weightings. Will the last 10 years be the same as the next 10? Good bet would be no?
That aside the weightings question is really a coin toss. Its just as likely that NCM will outperform BHP. In that case being weighted to the index will be a huge drag rather than benefit. You can in no weigh assume that being heaver into one stock will not benefit or degrade performance. But you can be sure that its skewed your risk.
Therefore unless you have a crystal ball and ensure me that BHP will not buy Xstrata at the next top or NAB buy AMP or a Super Tax on WOW etc etc I'll pass on a coin toss and be happy to reduce portfolio risk. That's my thinking.
The hedging can be fine tuned to the portfolio with a few extra oppies.
Not Thinking of filling the portfolio T/H?
Nope. you?
No
My thinking on this period is here.
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4888&page=404
Sir O
I see what you are getting at but your coming at it from the wrong angle.
Ideally you would construct a bunch of stocks with equal weighting or even try and pick some winners while using 'normal' position sizing.
Then use options on each stock to hedge effectively creating your own index and hedging requirements.
The problem is the hedging with the spi is far more practical and cost efficient that using what is available with ASX options. As I have already stated. Directly hedging with individual options is simply BS. It don't work not with the market we have. Unless you have specific skills along the lines of the oppies guys like Wayne you will be cut to bits thinking you have a effective short hedge but what you will end up having is a time decay, high cost, large spread bunch of illiquid instruments controlled by the MM.
Even with the skewed SPI weightings my guess is that it will still bet my option strategies skills. (at the moment)
lol!! Sir O I have no further comment to someone wanting back tested rolled gold confirmation that they will make $10,000 next week.
Do you know why this is important?
Cheers
Sir O
I understand why these threads die after 40 post.
this is discretionary long term wealth building approach using my skills to take money out of the swings and put it into a portfolio of div paying shares + collect the franking credited income. While not adding to Krudds income.
The idea is to take profit B and add it to holdings A. Portfolio A will not be liquidated therefore there is no profit A to report on (besides divs (less tax on profit B))
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China comes to the rescue today. They started this mess and now have been ignoring the falls the last few days by rallying into the close. Looks to be doing the same today but from their open.
Buy signal will be triggered tonight.
Hmmmm!
Is it time to put a hedge on yet?
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