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Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake!" comes to mind.
She could also have suggested "They should have picked rich parents!"
Dis-bluddy-gusting, Mr Harbourside Mansion.
Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake!" comes to mind.
They were thinking Tony Windsor was a turncoat who deserted the National Party and could not be trusted.
Yes, but of course if he thought the Nats were no longer credible, with dills who resort to bringing lumps of coal into parliament, then what thinking man could blame him?
Behind all this is probably a woman....you know what woman that would be.
So then Windsor decided to support comrade Gillard.....The well known communist prime minister.
It turned out to be not a very good choice in the end and that is what has gone against him.
Liar liar pants on fire:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticsFairfax/status/830856277123227648
"Australia Institute executive director Ben Oquist, whose progressive think tank filed the FOI application, said it was regrettable that the government had acted politically despite being cautioned to wait.
"AEMO had told federal public servants and political advisers that renewable energy was not to blame for the blackout. But instead of informing the people of South Australia of this fact, both the Energy Minister and Prime Minister chose to push a false narrative about wind power," he said."
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Cherry picking is great until you are found out.
There some 852 new coal fired power stations either planned or under construction in India and China.
Why did you not make mention of them?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/a...s/news-story/2110980f03e6ac95fd800c65feb8207d
I thought you were a born again libertarian and following Pauline?
You seem to spend an inordinate amount of typing trying to debunk anything of stink that surrounds our government? It's all well and good attacking Shorten for being a bad PM, but guess what ... he's not the PM and Labor is not the govt. When they do take office next election then we can refocus the attack on them for being useless lying t1ts too, but until then it's the LNPs turn for brickbats.
I'm rather concerned you can't break the bonds that bind matey.
What in the hell has your rhetoric got to do with 852 new coal fired power stations or is this your usual conversion away from a sensible answer...I am getting to use to your modus operandi.
Those power plants are being built in China and India and nothing to do with our government.
India’s new draft National Electricity Plan for the two five year periods to 2027 unambiguously concludes that beyond the half-built plants already under construction, India does not require any new coal-fired power stations.
India is accelerating an already rapid diversification away from coal-fired power generation. Energy Minister Piyush Goyal’s strategy is to cut pollution and drive down costs for the consumer, while fully accommodating sustained, strong Indian economic growth.
India’s Intended Nationally Determined Contribution (INDC) released in September 2015 and submitted for the Paris COP21 Climate Agreement aimed to achieve about 40% cumulative electric power installed capacity from non-fossil fuel based energy resources by 2030.
The new draft National Electricity Plan calls for 57% of India’s total electricity capacity to come from non-fossil fuels (372GW of the 650GW total) by 2027, indicating a 42% uplift three years ahead of a schedule set only 12 months ago.
The 50GW of coal power currently under construction is already largely stranded, with the Central Electricity Authority (CEA) modeling showing none of these plants are required before 2022 and only possibly before 2027. 11GW of end-of-life thermal power plants will also close.
The 50GW of coal power under construction will barely operate at 50% capacity, according to the new plan. These stranded assets are only moving forward as the government has opted to retain them as reserve capacity rather than write them off now.
Shortly after the release of the plan, speaking to the Indian oil and gas sector, Energy Minister Goyal stated “we have to look at a world beyond fossil fuels” and reiterated that India must cut its dependence on fossil fuel imports.
http://reneweconomy.com.au/no-new-coal-fired-power-plants-india-80026/
So where did you get 852 new coal plants from ?
So third world countries are building new coal fired stations, what does that say about those amongst us who think we should use taxpayer money to do the same?
Even the existing coal fired operators here aren't interested in building new coal fireds and it is nought to do with policy settings, but a desire to get a foot into the door of the inevitable future.
In the meantime Govt should own and operate the remaining horse and buggies.
So third world countries are building new coal fired stations, what does that say about those amongst us who think we should use taxpayer money to do the same?
Even the existing coal fired operators here aren't interested in building new coal fireds and it is nought to do with policy settings, but a desire to get a foot into the door of the inevitable future.
In the meantime Govt should own and operate the remaining horse and buggies.
Where did you get the idea that third world countries are the only ones building coal fired power stations?
There is another 1548 being built in other parts of the world especially Germany.
If we continue down the path of the Green/Labor socialists coalition policy of 50% renewables, then we will be in strife without some alternative base load power stations whether it be coal, gas, oil or nuclear.
Actually I read somewhere where there are companies who have shown interest in new coal fired power station......There is even talk about a new one in North Queensland where there is an abundance of coal....I will try to find a link for you...But we have to get rid of the Palaszczuk Labor Government in Queensland first as they are against it to appease the Greens.
Clever spin, bordering on outright mendacity, but that's all, and discredited by the Govt in Question Time yesterday. I wouldn't be taking advice on energy policy from a "progressive think tank". SA has 40% renewables delivering intermittent energy.Liar liar pants on fire:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticsFairfax/status/830856277123227648
"Australia Institute executive director Ben Oquist, whose progressive think tank filed the FOI application, said it was regrettable that the government had acted politically despite being cautioned to wait.
"AEMO had told federal public servants and political advisers that renewable energy was not to blame for the blackout. But instead of informing the people of South Australia of this fact, both the Energy Minister and Prime Minister chose to push a false narrative about wind power," he said."
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http://www.news.com.au/technology/e...l/news-story/bc3bbc8be17d80844bc05ab7f5760d56
..“South Australia has been a basket case when it comes to energy policy and we’ve made the point that (Premier) Jay Weatherill’s big experiment has failed,” Federal Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg told Sky News..
http://www.worldwatch-europe.org/node/304
..the Danes produce more energy than they consume, and most of what they export is in the form of oil and its derivatives. Thus, not all the non-renewable energy produced in the country stays here.
You should be raising a big red flag right about now. Even though Denmark is working hard to reach 100% renewable energy supply, it will continue to produce fossil fuels to other countries. Traditionally, the country that burns these fuels is responsible for its greenhouse gases emissions – that the supplier of fuels, such as Denmark, should be exempt of other responsibilities is a discussion for another time..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Denmark
..Energy taxes contributed 34 billion DKK in 2015, about 12% of overall taxing revenue. The money is a considerable income for the state, and changing the composition of the taxes towards a "greener" mix is difficult. According to a government official, the majority of taxes are not based on environment concerns, in contrast to the DKK 5 billion per year in PSO-money for cleaner energy, paid by electricity consumers to producers of clean electricity. These tolls are not available for government consumption..
Denmark has to import coal, unlike Australia which has a comparative advantage in this area. And Denmark has no issues with exporting oil and letting someone else burn it. They've just exported the problem. Their renewables industry is heavily subsidized. Read.. expensive energy.
My understanding also. I'm not picking on the Danes, but they are held up as the role model for wind energy. Some role model.I also believe that Denmark relies heavily on the German power network when its wind farms and other renewable resources can't maintain the required levels of power generation.
Germany imports 61% of it's energy needs(oil, gas and hard coal). 90% of hard coal (13% of energy) comes from USA, Colombia and Russia). It does mine ~180m tonnes of brown coal making it the biggest burner for power in the world.I also believe that Denmark relies heavily on the German power network when its wind farms and other renewable resources can't maintain the required levels of power generation.
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