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Ah tariffs, the most beautiful word in the English language.
Ah tariffs, the most beautiful word in the English language.From the article:Bowen open to carbon tariff, says Australia must 'do more' to hit 2030 goal
The energy minister says the re-approved North West Shelf gas plant would not jeopardise Australia's emissions goals because the site is required to hit net zero.www.abc.net.au
A "carbon tariff" on dirty cement or steel made elsewhere could be considered in the Albanese government's second term, as Energy Minister Chris Bowen concedes Australia must "do more" to achieve its climate targets.
Mr Bowen said he was willing to consider new policies if required, including the use of tariffs to ensure that companies do not shift emitting activities offshore to evade the intent of Australia's targets.
I think he should be, same as I think Trump putting tariffs on is the obvious way forward, both are about maintaining a manufacturing base.Why wouldn't he be?
Yes, you and I have been saying they are the obvious way forward, for a long time. There aren't many other options available.Ah tariffs, the most beautiful word in the English language.
According to our local smelter, renewables make it very difficult to stay in business.Yes, you and I have been saying they are the obvious way forward, for a long time. There aren't many other options available.
With regard Bowen's tariff suggestion, as with the car industry in Australia, the choice will come down to whether it is viable to keep manufacturing here with renewables.
Most energy intensive processes will be doing exactly the same IMO.According to our local smelter, renewables make it very difficult to stay in business.
Being Unreliable and Expensive, when current supply contracts expire they will decide stay or close
I believe Great big fat subsidies will be required to stay
China ahead again.During that time
World-first mini nuclear plant ready to power 526,000 homes in China
China’s first commercial small modular nuclear reactor, Linglong-1, is now in the final installation phase.interestingengineering.com
From the article:Bowen open to carbon tariff, says Australia must 'do more' to hit 2030 goal
The energy minister says the re-approved North West Shelf gas plant would not jeopardise Australia's emissions goals because the site is required to hit net zero.www.abc.net.au
A "carbon tariff" on dirty cement or steel made elsewhere could be considered in the Albanese government's second term, as Energy Minister Chris Bowen concedes Australia must "do more" to achieve its climate targets.
Mr Bowen said he was willing to consider new policies if required, including the use of tariffs to ensure that companies do not shift emitting activities offshore to evade the intent of Australia's targets.
So we use more of our own steel and aluminium for local requirements, it's not rocket science.Therein lies the conundrum, regarding protecting your own energy intensive industries and getting the ideology ahead of the technology.
If your product costs more, than the imported product, how do you get people to buy it ? Ask Chris.
Do politicians actually think about their policies? Doubtful IMO.
Today's paper.
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Which is what we should have always done.So we use more of our own steel and aluminium for local requirements, it's not rocket science.
Trouble is we really need to be exporting those for trade balance reasons and simply to attain economies of scale in those industries.So we use more of our own steel and aluminium for local requirements, it's not rocket science.
Like we did in the 1960's? Back to the future.Trouble is we really need to be exporting those for trade balance reasons and simply to attain economies of scale in those industries.
I don't know the current figure, but the zinc works in Tasmania used to export to about 70 countries. That's just one example.
What we really need to be doing in my view is tilting the tax system so as to very firmly favour an arrangement that anything mined in Australia is refined in Australia at least through to the stage of being actual metal.
Doesn't need to be at the same site, and that's often impractical, but so long as it's done somewhere in Australia that's fine - eg mine it in the middle of nowhere and refine it at Kwinana, Whyalla, Bell Bay, Newcastle, Gladstone or wherever but the refinery needs to be somewhere in Australia.
Reason for separate location is simply scale and logistics. Eg the refinery needs lots of power, usually water as well, it needs a technical workforce, it needs the ability to ship things in and out, etc. Plus scale usually means multiple mines supplying a single smelting or refining plant. Hence typically not done at the same location as the mine but that's not a problem as long as it's somewhere in Australia.
Good to see some cooperation between private companies.Like we did in the 1960's? Back to the future.
BHP formed a subsidiary company, Australian Iron and Steel Pty Ltd, to administer the Kwinana plant. As part of the company's 1960 agreement, a blast furnace was built and first blown in May 1968 using ore from Koolyanobbing, and Australian Iron and Steel began its export of pig iron from one of its two jetties.
Funnily enough, from memory, the Kwinana blast furnace was the most efficient in the Southern hemisphere, it had the least amount of waste product, when changing pig iron silicon grades.
- 1960: BHP and the Western Australian government formed the Australian Iron and Steel Pty Ltd (AIS) to develop an integrated steelworks in Kwinana.
- 1968: AIS's blast furnace, powered by ore from Koolyanobbing, was commissioned in May, marking a major industrial development in the state.
- 1970: The first stage of the Kwinana project came into operation.
- 1982: The blast furnace was closed.
- 1995: The steel rolling mill in Kwinana also closed.
Hopefully this new one, gets up and running.
Australia’s two largest iron ore miners and its biggest steelmaker have selected the Kwinana Industrial Area, south of Perth, as the location to develop Australia’s largest ironmaking electric smelting furnace(1) (ESF) pilot plant.
Yes and possibly giving something back, rather than the dig and ship for maximum profit and minimum input.Good to see some cooperation between private companies.
Better than trying to claw each others eyes out with pure capitalism.
I would guess, there would be a lot of distribution areas, that would struggle with supplying 1MW chargers.Mentioned before, but more on BYD's fast charging blade battery and others.
And this is what the ultimate fundamental problem will be, energy is energy, if you remove oil coal gas energy, same amount needs to be produced distributed...I would guess, there would be a lot of distribution areas, that would struggle with supplying 1MW chargers.
A couple of 1MW chargers going flat out, is about the same load as a small country town.
FWIW, present electrification of farms does vary considerably between states.When a farmer refill his ute and get a diesel delivery to power his farm and equipment, i doubt anyone is ready to upgrade the 100skm power lines to replace with electricity
Do you agree as well that this is basically just the side consumption of farms: probably pumping mistly, znd side: conveyors etc.FWIW, present electrification of farms does vary considerably between states.
Agriculture (including fishing and forestry) electricity use by state as a % of the Australian total use of electricity in the agricultural sector:
NSW = 33%
Vic = 29%
Qld = 14%
WA = 8%
SA = 12%
Tas = 4%
NT = 1%
I haven't tried to confirm this but I suspect that's not in line with the share of agricultural production, that some are probably more electrified than others.
Yes.Do you agree as well that this is basically just the side consumption of farms: probably pumping mistly, znd side: conveyors etc.
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