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most politicians are now learning far left in to love of the watermelon life now days
The Australian Greens party
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My gripe with the Greens is simply that for a supposed environmental party, they're remarkably unconcerned with sustainability. Energy, macroeconomics, water, defence and so on. The consistent theme is a lack of concern for the long term future beyond a few very niche subjects.
That plus even for their own pet subjects, they seem far more concerned with appearances than outcomes. That is seeing politics as the goal rather than seeing outcomes as the goal.
Political Left: A promise has been made to make the trains run on time so it's all good, job's done.
Smurf: Standing at the train station with a watch synchronised to a credible time source waiting for the train to arrive.
Suffice to say I see my approach as the valid one for determining success or otherwise. Are the trains actually running on time or not?
Same goes for all issues. The political Left, not limited to the Greens, seems interested only in words and policy statements. I'm more interested in results. Without getting into the argument itself, the climate change issue is a great illustration of that.
Political Left: It's all going well, we're building this and we've got a policy to cut emissions and so on.
Smurf: Looking at the technical feasibility of the proposals, spotting bits that don't work from an engineering or even fundamental physics perspective, and also looking at statistics of coal, oil and gas consumption.
It's a radically different mindset. In principle I support sustainability and I'm a long way to the "old" Left when it comes to genuine equality and so on. They've completely lost me in practice though with the modern approach of all talk and no action whilst seeking to create racism, sexism etc rather than eliminating it. I didn't leave the Left, it's just that the Left is no longer progressive - they've become the very thing we were fighting against a generation ago.
That plus even for their own pet subjects, they seem far more concerned with appearances than outcomes. That is seeing politics as the goal rather than seeing outcomes as the goal.
Political Left: A promise has been made to make the trains run on time so it's all good, job's done.
Smurf: Standing at the train station with a watch synchronised to a credible time source waiting for the train to arrive.
Suffice to say I see my approach as the valid one for determining success or otherwise. Are the trains actually running on time or not?
Same goes for all issues. The political Left, not limited to the Greens, seems interested only in words and policy statements. I'm more interested in results. Without getting into the argument itself, the climate change issue is a great illustration of that.
Political Left: It's all going well, we're building this and we've got a policy to cut emissions and so on.
Smurf: Looking at the technical feasibility of the proposals, spotting bits that don't work from an engineering or even fundamental physics perspective, and also looking at statistics of coal, oil and gas consumption.
It's a radically different mindset. In principle I support sustainability and I'm a long way to the "old" Left when it comes to genuine equality and so on. They've completely lost me in practice though with the modern approach of all talk and no action whilst seeking to create racism, sexism etc rather than eliminating it. I didn't leave the Left, it's just that the Left is no longer progressive - they've become the very thing we were fighting against a generation ago.
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