Poker Stars

[cuttlefish]

Nothing like a bad beat when you move all in with A-A and the guy calling has 2-2. Flop comes A-K-K (full house for me). Turn - 2 River 2 (quads for the calling station).

It was for a live pot $450

lol ... though sometimes you find yourself all-in with 2's - I did tonight for various reasons. I called it post flop ... my opponent had AKs (clubs) and hadn't paired yet so the two's were the weak favourite. I was in front going into the river as well and the river threw out a 2 ... yay trips! ... except it was a club and gave my opponent a flush

 

[Ozpoker]

Not sure what to do here -

Posted the details for next week but admin deleted it as spam.

Perhaps if someone has some pull they can get the post restored?

I don't want to post it again, as they'll just delete it ....and probably me.

 

[Joe Blow]

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[Ozpoker]

Oh well - all I can say is next week is set up for you as per request

As someone else suggested Ongame sites such as pokerroom, or Bwin will let you set up your own tourneys without needing special access.

Unfortunately most people prefer to play at stars

 

[jersey10]

We'll have to start a bad beats thread.

In the tournament I got 36 out of 400+ last night I had 18th highest chip stack before I went out - went all-in with KK and my opponent came up with A-10os - an ace came through for them. Not a bad beat - pretty fair race imo - but would have put me in a bloody good position in the tournament if I'd won it.

KK against A 10 you are a big favourite preflop probably 70% so you were definitely unlucky there assuming you were all in pre flop. I did $50 in a cash game tonight i had the full house beaten by 4 of a kind but to be fair he was ahead the whole way. 99 V my 45 suited. called his 3Xbb raise heads up pot i had position. flop 4j9 he check i bet half pot he raises double my bet i call. turn is a four i think i'm ahead but i'm not. he checks i bet half pot he calls. river is a 9 so i've hit the boat and old mate has hit his four nines in goes all the money bet, raise, reraise, all in, call. bad read by me i suppose a raise of 3 x bb preflop from mid position is quite appropriate for a pair of nines. i put him on A J after he called my bet on the flop.

 

[jersey10]

Oh well - all I can say is next week is set up for you as per request

As someone else suggested Ongame sites such as pokerroom, or Bwin will let you set up your own tourneys without needing special access.

Unfortunately most people prefer to play at stars

thanks Ozpoker. will that be there every week or just next week?

 

[cuttlefish]

KK against A 10 you are a big favourite preflop probably 70% so you were definitely unlucky there assuming you were all in pre flop. I did $50 in a cash game tonight i had the full house beaten by 4 of a kind but to be fair he was ahead the whole way. 99 V my 45 suited. called his 3Xbb raise heads up pot i had position. flop 4j9 he check i bet half pot he raises double my bet i call. turn is a four i think i'm ahead but i'm not. he checks i bet half pot he calls. river is a 9 so i've hit the boat and old mate has hit his four nines in goes all the money bet, raise, reraise, all in, call. bad read by me i suppose a raise of 3 x bb preflop from mid position is quite appropriate for a pair of nines. i put him on A J after he called my bet on the flop.

yeah I was all-in pre-flop - always amazes me how aces come out ... except when I need them!

lol thats a bad beat on the full house - I'd could imagine possibly a 9's full or jacks full coming back but not a four of a kind! Interesting that he checked the turn, wonder what he put you on - given he had pocket 9's he might have been worried about you holding pocket jacks.


Holy cow and as I was typing this I was just playing a pair of jacks with Q kicker against an A-10 with no hand - got put all-in post flop and was looking good. Then I scored a backdoor flush Q high on the river ... they beat me with a Jack high straight-flush!!!

Their 10 of hearts kicker on the ace gave them the straight flush with the 789Jh on the board.

 

[MRC & Co]

ha ha ha ha, some of these bad beats are terrible!!!

I know of a guy who is a professional and won't play online due to the bad beats of the 'random computer dealer'.

Still though, if your good, there is money to be made.

I'm in for the tournament nxt Wednesday. I'll see you boys (and ladies if any are up for it) there. Maybe also be on ASF at the same tine just encase anyone gets lost trying to find the room (which may be me ).

 

[cuttlefish]

How's the pokerstars software on your PC's - no ill effects?

I lose connections every now and then with the pokerroom site (usually just after I've put a third of my stack on an opening bet with high pocket pairs - not sure if my internet connections flaky or there is something that the software or my firewall config is doing that causes it to hang but a bit wary about putting more on. (I'm a bit suspicious that web iress is the culprit as well but no evidence thus far - just get a hang on my broadband connection and have to do a forced shutdown reboot of the whole PC).

If I'm game to add more poker software I'll join in.

 

[MRC & Co]

Cuttle,

I have no idea about half of what you said, ha ha, sorry, when it comes to IT or software I am as clueless as a newb is to trading . But yeh, my connection to Poker Stars drops out sometimes. Only happened once badly so far which cost me a good hand.

On that note, I'm off to hit the tables, made a little trading today, so double or nothing?

 

[xyzedarteerf]

I just thought it would be a good reminder for people playing with real money on this poker sites.
Some of this sites can be abused by cheaters using multiple computers using different ISP's therefore having unique IP addresses so they can get away with playing with multiple accounts on one table. You can be on a table with only 5 players when in reality your only playing against 2. Any tech savvy individual can set this up.

I really rather play freeroll when online i don't trust the programing of the card shuffle plus as I have explained above...

 

[xyzedarteerf]

Nothing like a bad beat when you move all in with A-A and the guy calling has 2-2. Flop comes A-K-K (full house for me). Turn - 2 River 2 (quads for the calling station).

It was for a live pot $450

the card shuffle algorithm program is very questionable.
this is exactly my point, what are the odds of this happening in a real game. no one calls an all in bet on a pair deuce think about it.

 

[MRC & Co]

Yeh, agree with the above.

I was on a table last night, final 3, and I swear on my life I was playing the same guy. Needless to say, I was chip leader by a mile and got royally fukced over.

 

[cuttlefish]

woohoo - scored 4th place out of 369 starters in a $5.50 tournament. Was chip leader for quite a while and should have been able to place better but still my best result so far.


In terms of shuffling algorithms - you see it all in happen live play as well in terms of what comes out of the deck so I wouldn't necessarily blame the shuffling algorithm. Online you play a lot more games so you see a lot more stuff but live games deliver plenty of unexpected outcomes as well.

In relation to all-in with pocket 2's there's plenty of situations where this would make sense to do - and plenty of situations where it would be completely stupid.


If there's people colluding in a game I guess that just adds to the challenge. They still don't know what your cards are but yeah if there's 4 people colluding against 1 then they've got a big advantage in knowing more about the cards that aren't left in the deck. I can't really see this happening so easily in a tournament though - they'd all have to end up on the same starting table - it'd be easier for them to do it with cash games imo.

 

[xyzedarteerf]

woohoo - scored 4th place out of 369 starters in a $5.50 tournament. Was chip leader for quite a while and should have been able to place better but still my best result so far.

as long as your having fun then that's all good.

In terms of shuffling algorithms - you see it all in happen live play as well in terms of what comes out of the deck so I wouldn't necessarily blame the shuffling algorithm. Online you play a lot more games so you see a lot more stuff but live games deliver plenty of unexpected outcomes as well.

check out this link how an aussie uncovered online poker cheating.

If there's people colluding in a game I guess that just adds to the challenge. They still don't know what your cards are but yeah if there's 4 people colluding against 1 then they've got a big advantage in knowing more about the cards that aren't left in the deck. I can't really see this happening so easily in a tournament though - they'd all have to end up on the same starting table - it'd be easier for them to do it with cash games imo.

well it does happen when there's money on the play there's the temptation to cheat. Pokerstars however is i believe the only online poker website that has an independent third party software auditor , i think there called Cigital there the guys that cracked PlanetPoker's dealing algorithm.

anywho i'll leave you with a qoute from Mike Sexton.

“May all your cards be live and your pots be monsters!”

 

[cuttlefish]

as long as your having fun then that's all good.

Yeah just having fun - only $5.50 to enter - was four hours of playing to get to fourth place - so pretty cheap entertainment. With these ones if you finish in roughly the top 10% of starters you get a payout of some sort - so even if you don't go too well you often get a payout and usually play for an hour or two.

The full tilt games are where you can blow money pretty quickly - they're often over within 10 minutes - though you can get a small edge even in the tilt games with some strategy - but their mostly a gamble.

 

[Dowdy]

I'll be definitely up for that!

I used to have a game with regular poker players but one of them dropped out and then we didn't have enough players to keep it running but if a few members here want to have a game then i can get it running again.

Based in Melbourne Western suburbs. $20 per game, gets you about 20-25K chips. No re-buys. Money is usually split between 1st and 2nd (3rd gets their money back if there are plenty players). Games usually last about 2 hours so even if your not that good, $20 for 2 hours is good value!

Just let me know if your serious about having a game.

Just so everyone knows they are no-limit holdem. $20 buyin gets you 20k chips. Blinds are 100-200 and they go up every 15min

I'll only need 3-4 people to get the games running again. Real poker is alot better and more fun then online poker.

Private message me if your interested. Western suburbs in VIC

 

[MRC & Co]

Some of these online beats are really starting to get to me now!

Grinding away, waiting for the great hand to play, and then you get burnt cause they hit some BS straight or flush on the beat!

 

[nizar]

Some of these online beats are really starting to get to me now!

Grinding away, waiting for the great hand to play, and then you get burnt cause they hit some BS straight or flush on the beat!

Do you wanna hear a bad beat?

I had 99 so raised it preflop to 4x bb.
Everyone folded, except for the chip leader, he went over the top and put me all in. His chip advantage was 3:1 probably.

Anyway, he flips over A4 off suit.
The idiot shouldnt be going all in with that hand.

Anyway so preflop I have him dominated.
The flop comes 9JK, so I have him dominated even more as I flop the set.

Then he hits nothing on the turn. BUT on the river a 4th heart comes onto the table.
I had no hearts.
His 4 was a heart.



Also, it seems I can never win a decent pot with KK, ever.
The last time I had it I raised and got called by one person.
The flop comes AAQ. I knew I was dominated and I was right they had AJ.

 

[Stan 101]

Hey all. Thanks for the link to PokerStars. I played my third tournament today and made it through to a satellite game "Target Tournament #200904221 Buy-In: $100.00/$9.00"

I'm still reading up on what this actually means!

First two tournaments I was knocked out when I had 3 of a kind on both occasions and in both cases I was beaten by 3 aces... Uncanny..


I'd be interested in the occasional game if one is organised.

cheers,