My frustration in working for a Chinese company

[CanOz]

Well, here I am into my second week of working for a private Chinese business. I can say that in addition to the technical issues, there is a immeasurable need for cultural change,starting at the top.

This past ten days I have seen:

An unwillingness to make decisions, for fear of failure
A total disregard for safety
The old " it's not my job "
A waste treatment system discharging effluent five times over the legal limit.
The boss demanding the employees pay for a book that I recommended they read.
Unsanitary conditions, a canteen not fit to feed animals
A communal shower that a football team would refuse to use, the only choice for women and men to use.
A total disregard by the employees for the waste that the process is creating
Over one million USD in annual process line losses
Water use 50 % above what is needed
Horror stories about the level of monetary decisions being made by the owner

Not sure how long I will last, but they got a peice of my mind today....

Regarding the employees paying for a business book I recommended.

"Here are my thoughts....

This sucks!

This type of behavior MUST change. It may seem a small thing to you, but to the employees it's BIG!

I won't be putting up with this from you, mr. Yyy or anyone. You can't pay me enough to watch you treat people like this. Do you understand, not enough money in this world!

Put the word to him now, because when he gets here and listens to what i have say about the cultural change needed to compete in this industry he's not going to like it. If he doesn't want to change then he can find someone else. I'm not a pushover xxxxx. I don't like authority and I will do things the RIGHT way, or no way.

Do you understand me xxxxx?

Cheers,




CanOz "

He (the owner) arrives next week for my first business review with him....nothing like a bit of good old honest candor to kick things off!

 

[Honkers]

I have worked with them in Kazakhstan , Chinese engineers bend all the rules to push their products good or bad !!

 

[tinhat]

What is the book?

 

[basilio]

Work, Life and Sex under Jack Ma founder of Alibaba and one of Chinas wealthiest men.

The story is LOL But you have to read the comments Priceless.

Is having sex six times in six days the secret to work-life balance?
Ali Baba’s founder Jack Ma has come up with a timetable for his married employees. It sounds exhausting

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2019/may/15/jack-ma-china-996-work-669-sex

In the comments.
In my highly sexed younger years I never thought that I would reach this moment in my 40s when the thought of that much sex would fill me with a fair amount of dread.

But then I have become in my middle age the punchline of that old chestnut gag about the old man on a late night Glasgow street (the accent being of course essential) who is propositioned from a dim doorway...

"Do ye want super sex?"

"Oooh" says the gent hesitantly, "I don't know....what flavour soup is it?"

And yes, if it's a choice between a hunky man or a hearty broth, I know which one catches my eye nowadays

 

[jbocker]

Well, here I am into my second week of working for a private Chinese business. I can say that in addition to the technical issues, there is a immeasurable need for cultural change,starting at the top.

This past ten days I have seen:

An unwillingness to make decisions, for fear of failure
A total disregard for safety
The old " it's not my job "
A waste treatment system discharging effluent five times over the legal limit.
The boss demanding the employees pay for a book that I recommended they read.
Unsanitary conditions, a canteen not fit to feed animals
A communal shower that a football team would refuse to use, the only choice for women and men to use.
A total disregard by the employees for the waste that the process is creating
Over one million USD in annual process line losses
Water use 50 % above what is needed
Horror stories about the level of monetary decisions being made by the owner

Not sure how long I will last, but they got a peice of my mind today....

Regarding the employees paying for a business book I recommended.

"Here are my thoughts....

This sucks!

This type of behavior MUST change. It may seem a small thing to you, but to the employees it's BIG!

I won't be putting up with this from you, mr. Yyy or anyone. You can't pay me enough to watch you treat people like this. Do you understand, not enough money in this world!

Put the word to him now, because when he gets here and listens to what i have say about the cultural change needed to compete in this industry he's not going to like it. If he doesn't want to change then he can find someone else. I'm not a pushover xxxxx. I don't like authority and I will do things the RIGHT way, or no way.

Do you understand me xxxxx?

Cheers,




CanOz "

He (the owner) arrives next week for my first business review with him....nothing like a bit of good old honest candor to kick things off!

I wonder in retrospect how did this work out for (you) CanOz?

 

[CanOz]

I wonder in retrospect how did this work out for (you) CanOz?

I left in total disgust....still get chills thinking about it.

 

[jbocker]

I hope the company suffered a quick demise and collapse or in the very least changed it ways very promptly for the better. But I don't think it would have done the latter..

 

[qldfrog]

For what it is worth: my experience:
One of 3 founders with 2 other Australians of a startup in technology in china
Our chinese australian mate is the actual CEO there
I tried hard to change a culture of work harder not better...and failed
The employees we have there are in total hierarchy submission so any bad idea will not be challenged if coming from higher the hierarchy or more senior colleague
Work and food is life..working 6 to 7 days a week, an army of zoombies
How on earth can we achieve innovation?
We do not,just BS marketing and no technical progress even after my best hands on effort spending more than half of my time there or on a plane
So our startup will head for the scrap heap soon imho
A shame. And fully to be blamed on the cultural aspects of it, we could have delivered with a western team half the size.
But china was cheap and had the funding whereas Australia has dumped innovation once for all