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Boggo said:
And another mob of child abusers escape free of any responsibility in the name of religion.

Joe public would get 20 years but if you have a collar its ok apparently :confused:
http://www.independent.ie/national-...o-pay-a-penny-towards-ryan-plans-1844681.html
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Boggo - No need to worry about priests, keep your children away from their older brother! :eek:

Almost all child sex abuse is incest - report
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,,25824202-421,00.html

"AS much as 90 per cent of child sex abuse is the result of incest with the perpetrators often being the victim's adolescent brother, research suggests."
 
I'm going to have to lighten it up for a minute.

Check this out:

7-year-old steals car to skip church

PLAIN CITY, Utah -- Police in Utah say a 7-year-old boy led officers on a car chase in an effort to avoid going to church.

Dispatchers received reports of a child driving recklessly on Sunday morning. Weber County Sheriff's Capt. Klint Anderson says one witness said the boy drove through a stop sign.

Anderson says two deputies caught up with the boy and tried unsuccessfully to stop the Dodge Intrepid in an area about 45 miles north of Salt Lake City. The car reached 40 mph before the boy stopped in a driveway and ran inside a home.

Anderson says when the boy's father later confronted him, the boy said he didn't want to go to church. The boy is too young to prosecute and no citations were issued, although police did urge the father to make his car keys more inaccessible to children.

Smart kid.
 
darkside said:
Ah yes , the lord does work in mysterious ways, and of course this is just a test of the fathers faith and he passed with flying colours. How dare the prosecuters want him jailed, if anything for his strong faith he should be rewarded. The hide of the judge believing he should have obtained medical help when we all know prayer is more than enough. !!!!!!!:banghead:
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The father of the girl will probably believe 'The Lord is now holding her hand in glory', or some similar rubbish.
A few weeks ago I saw a religious couple say something similar on a TV show about some strange religious mob in the US.
Their daughter had Leukaemia. The parents were getting treatment for her and were hopeful she'd recover her health. But they also said 'If the Lord chooses to hold her hand in glory, then we're OK with that too'.They were of course talking about the possibility of their daughter dying.
At least they had the intelligence to get medical treatment for her, rather than rely on prayer.
 
bunyip said:
The father of the girl will probably believe 'The Lord is now holding her hand in glory', or some similar rubbish.
A few weeks ago I saw a religious couple say something similar on a TV show about some strange religious mob in the US.
Their daughter had Leukaemia. The parents were getting treatment for her and were hopeful she'd recover her health. But they also said 'If the Lord chooses to hold her hand in glory, then we're OK with that too'.They were of course talking about the possibility of their daughter dying.
At least they had the intelligence to get medical treatment for her, rather than rely on prayer.
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So weren't they doing what most people do, i.e. having a bet both ways?

As you point out, they'd been responsible in getting medical treatment, so - although the phrase about the Lord holding her hand in glory is a bit over the top - they're really just preparing themselves for her possible death.
If it helps them to think she will 'move on to the next life' or whatever, then that seems reasonable to me.

Wouldn't work for me, but comfort is comfort, no matter its source.
 
bunyip said:
The father of the girl will probably believe 'The Lord is now holding her hand in glory', or some similar rubbish.
A few weeks ago I saw a religious couple say something similar on a TV show about some strange religious mob in the US.
Their daughter had Leukaemia. The parents were getting treatment for her and were hopeful she'd recover her health. But they also said 'If the Lord chooses to hold her hand in glory, then we're OK with that too'.They were of course talking about the possibility of their daughter dying.
At least they had the intelligence to get medical treatment for her, rather than rely on prayer.
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You are being extremely harsh Bunyip. You are skewing the facts of a story to suit the topic thread.

I saw that program as well - it was based on the Mormons in the US.

It was girl was only about 5-6. The family did everything they could to raise the funds for the necessary treatment (and by the way the money was raised primarily through friends, family and their local congregation). At no stage did they contemplate not having the treatment. It was obviously an extremely difficult and emotional time for the family and as a viewer I felt great sorrow for the little girl.

However the family remained strong, positive and encouraged - primarily and presumably through their faith and close support network. I am no expert but I would think strong, positive and encouraged would be three things most health workers would like patients and their families to be when fighting cancer.

They were being optimistic but at the same time being realistic about her chances. If being a religious nut means that after you have done all that you can medically for your cancerous 5 year old girl you are able to take some comfort, and find some sense and purpose in having your daughter tragically taken away from you - then good luck to them. I'm all for those types of religious nuts.

It appears that on reaching Post #628 of this thread topic, it has got to the stage where a Religious Nut can be official defined. It is someone that uses the phrase "The Lord is holding her hand in glory", rather than "She will be at peace and suffer no more". How dare they use language that is so offensive to your ideas and beliefs Bunyip.

Duckman
 
Duckman#72 said:
I saw that program as well - it was based on the Mormons in the US.
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I apologise for misleading. The family were actually breakaway Amish - not Mormons. They were "experimenting" with other similar religious options including Mormon and Baptist faith.

Duckman
 
Duckman#72 said:
You are being extremely harsh Bunyip. You are skewing the facts of a story to suit the topic thread.

I saw that program as well - it was based on the Mormons in the US.

It was girl was only about 5-6. The family did everything they could to raise the funds for the necessary treatment (and by the way the money was raised primarily through friends, family and their local congregation). At no stage did they contemplate not having the treatment. It was obviously an extremely difficult and emotional time for the family and as a viewer I felt great sorrow for the little girl.

However the family remained strong, positive and encouraged - primarily and presumably through their faith and close support network. I am no expert but I would think strong, positive and encouraged would be three things most health workers would like patients and their families to be when fighting cancer.

They were being optimistic but at the same time being realistic about her chances. If being a religious nut means that after you have done all that you can medically for your cancerous 5 year old girl you are able to take some comfort, and find some sense and purpose in having your daughter tragically taken away from you - then good luck to them. I'm all for those types of religious nuts.

It appears that on reaching Post #628 of this thread topic, it has got to the stage where a Religious Nut can be official defined. It is someone that uses the phrase "The Lord is holding her hand in glory", rather than "She will be at peace and suffer no more". How dare they use language that is so offensive to your ideas and beliefs Bunyip.

Duckman
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The story was about the Amish religion.

I'm being extremely harsh? No, I'm simply expressing an opinion that when a child has a life-threatening illness like Leukaemia that may well take her life, it's completely over the top to talk about 'If the Lord chooses to hold her hand in glory'.
There won't be any glory in it if the child is unfortunate enough to succumb to her illness. I've seen a small child die from Leukaemia - I know what it's like.
There'll be heartache, misery, ongoing sorrow for the family for the rest of their lives, considerable suffering for the little girl, and sundry other unpleasant aspects, but there won't be any glory.

I don't agree that I'm skewing the facts of a story to suit the topic. I've correctly stated what the parents said, and I've acknowledged that they're getting medical treatment for their daughter.

You've chosen to elaborate by saying how they've done everything they could to raise funds for her treatment, including enlisting the help of family, friends, and the members of their congregation.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
You've stated that it's a difficult and emotional time for the family - yes of course it is, I fully understand that.
And you've made various other statements, most of which I agree with.

For the record, I haven't stated that these people are religious nuts. I've simply expressed my disagreement with their comments about 'the Lord holding her hand in glory'.
Their language does not offend me as you've suggested, but their attitude does perplex me.
Still, if such an attitude gives them comfort if the girl dies, then I guess that's a positive. It won't, however, change my view that they are being 'over the top' in their belief.

It's unfortunate if my view offends your Christian perspective - my views are not expressed for the purpose of offending people, any more than your views are.
 
Any one see 4 corners last night, all done in the name of religion, what hope have we got when you have nut cases like that running around.:banghead:
 

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