Leveraged investing (borrowing to invest)

Pixelperfect · 26 November 2018

Triple B said:
No its not fantasy ,its real money Im trading and i respect that. If I forget to put a stop loss order on I can blow up the account real quick .I will owe the broker money . Real money. I understand I am trading the price of spot gold. I dont have the right to convert the trades into physical gold.dont want to . Physical gold is tricky to store safely and costs to have it stored for you.
these instruments allow you to borrow money from the broker which is paid back the instant the trade is close , rather than borrowing from the bank , going to the bullion dealer , buying the gold, storing the gold, going back to the bullion dealer , selling the gold , returning the money to the bank
I have only a mortgage and a car loan as Debt , no credit card or other loans, I understand the risks involved and accept them . Unfortunately some use these derivatives and have no idea. They lose thousand of $$ very quickly and take no responsibiliy. Its all the instruments fault, how can it be their fault!
If you have debt or gambling issues stay well clear of these derivatives

Triple B · 26 November 2018

Yes and................. everybody trading cfd and Fx should know this .Thats why I chose the brokers I did.They are DMA and market Maker.. That means direct market access. In other words the trades are all hedged in the underlying market . I also have an account with a Market Maker . That is a broker who take the other side of my Trade up to a certain risk to them . Its up to the market maker the level of risk they accept.
There are advantages to both types of accounts ,thats why I have the two types .
If you dont like it then dont play .simple.
The DMA model makes its $$ from commission and spread . They want you to be successful so you stick around and make more trades = more commission.
Market maker will take your money until you look like you are starting to take theirs and then they will hedge your trades . Dont like it ?? dont use one .simple

Pixelperfect · 26 November 2018

Triple B said:
Yes and................. everybody trading cfd and Fx should know this .Thats why I chose the brokers I did.They are DMA and market Maker.. That means direct market access. In other words the trades are all hedged in the underlying market . I also have an account with a Market Maker . That is a broker who take the other side of my Trade up to a certain risk to them . Its up to the market maker the level of risk they accept.
There are advantages to both types of accounts ,thats why I have the two types .
If you dont like it then dont play .simple.
The DMA model makes its $$ from commission and spread . They want you to be successful so you stick around and make more trades = more commission.
Market maker will take your money until you look like you are starting to take theirs and then they will hedge your trades . Dont like it ?? dont use one .simple

So why was I ganged up when I said this? Clearly they have vested interest. I mean, who wouldn't? It's so tempting. Why shouldn't they want to profit while others are doing the same thing? It's same FOMO. The trouble with that is that it creates less space and then eventually when there is no room to move or profit the whole system collapses when it reaches full saturation and everyone becomes the loser and no body is the winner, but I guess this is the mentality of the human race. It's this prehistoric capture the flag mentality that hasn't died out.

Triple B · 26 November 2018

Pixelperfect said:
So why was I ganged up when I said this? Clearly they have vested interest. I mean, who wouldn't?

Where were you Ganged up on?
If you are refferring to the IG post where you implied the FPM review site was probably written by the employees, and then the real customers related their experiences in the thread there, and you see that as being ,Ganged up on.........
Nobody was attacking you or your opinions about the leveraged instruments at all .
Just relating their experiences, that were similar to the reviews that you implied were fake.

Of course they have a vested interest, Thats how they make money . They are brokers,and market makers! Each individual must do their own due diligence when investing their money and weigh up the risks. leveraged investing is the riskiest. No doubt about it. We know that here.
You dont like it Fine . Dont use them . If the system crashes due to excess leverage then you can laugh and say " I Told em, I Told em .

Pixelperfect · 27 November 2018

Triple B said:
Where were you Ganged up on?
If you are refferring to the IG post where you implied the FPM review site was probably written by the employees, and then the real customers related their experiences in the thread there, and you see that as being ,Ganged up on.........
Nobody was attacking you or your opinions about the leveraged instruments at all .
Just relating their experiences, that were similar to the reviews that you implied were fake.

Of course they have a vested interest, Thats how they make money . They are brokers,and market makers! Each individual must do their own due diligence when investing their money and weigh up the risks. leveraged investing is the riskiest. No doubt about it. We know that here.
You dont like it Fine . Dont use them . If the system crashes due to excess leverage then you can laugh and say " I Told em, I Told em .

Pretty sure all this is about to end. Watch what happens when the plug is pulled. It will happen when you least expect it. Then the raging torrent tsunami will sweep away everything you own. You and I don't control the sharemarket. There is someone who is pulling the levers. That raging tsunami is how the the rich steal from the middle class which will be wiped off out of existence shortly.

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