Garpal Gumnut
Ross Island Hotel
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wayneL said:Garpal,
There is a rule here... no posting trades after the fact. I'm sure a few goals have been kicked, but without ways to substantiate:
1/ it is open to challenge
2/ could be complete fabrications
The techniques have been discussed often enough before.
But a good idea to discuss tactics again if people so desire.
Cheers
wayneL said:Garpal,
There is a rule here... no posting trades after the fact. I'm sure a few goals have been kicked, but without ways to substantiate:
1/ it is open to challenge
2/ could be complete fabrications
The techniques have been discussed often enough before.
But a good idea to discuss tactics again if people so desire.
Cheers
tech/a said:Cant be bothered.
ducati916 said:Strategies should be diversified.
*Investment strategy
*Trading strategy
From a posting perspective, it is easier to post an investment strategy as it doesn't change that much, there are several already on the board.
Trading, or short term stuff is generally more time intensive, and contentious.
Which is why you probably do not see much of it.
I dislike *directional* trading strategy. I far prefer *market neutral* strategies that profit irrespective of market direction, and pay me irrespective of market direction.
You are of course trading volatility in the Options world or spreads in the arbitrage world.
jog on
d998
Hi Garpal. I think you raise a good point in that we all need to learn how to make money in a falling market. The market will have another soft period shortly (if it hasn't started already), and there will be negative returns one year soon, if not a couple. I have stated many times in various threads that I thought the market was getting toppy and for people to have exit plans and learn how to make money selling short (see XAO analysis thread, and the Irrational Exhuberance thread for eg).Garpal Gumnut said:Please excuse the capitals but one has to tackle ones intellectual opponents who shout, with shouting..............
Garpal
barney said:Howdy Duc, At the risk of getting in over my head, would you mind outlining the basics of market neutral strategy/strategies. I have been trying to come up with some simple ideas of my own along these lines in an attempt to "take the heat" out of trading due to working with limited capital, but still searching. I'm sure other newer punters like myself would appreciate any constructive advice on that ........... Thanks.
Garpal Gumnut said:Should we go short in situations like this, rather than just commenting on the market falling.
I am a long term trader but would love to be a short term one, but situations like this make me wonder whether we are capable in Australia of trading and discussioning rationelly put trades.
Garpal
Could you please expand on this for us beginners please,How to overcome the risks;
*Understand the pricing models
*Extend expiry time
*Understand the theory of volatility cones.
tech/a said:Posting takes up far to much time as it is for me.
There is enough of my stuff on here and Reefcap.
If it interests me I'll read/comment and or post.
Gave up posting analysis due to the peanut factor (Like the Shouting comment made above)---its a headline!!, combined with the time factor last year.
Genarally cant be bothered.
Really am sick of the idiot factor that think trading is gambling,and everyone has to prove how big their Kahuna's are.
And unfortunately its a constant stream.
I'll leave all this to You Ducster,Moggie and others who have more time and inclination.
tech/a said:Posting takes up far to much time as it is for me.
There is enough of my stuff on here and Reefcap.
If it interests me I'll read/comment and or post.
Gave up posting analysis due to the peanut factor (Like the Shouting comment made above)---its a headline!!, combined with the time factor last year.
Genarally cant be bothered.
Really am sick of the idiot factor that think trading is gambling,and everyone has to prove how big their Kahuna's are.
And unfortunately its a constant stream.
I'll leave all this to You Ducster,Moggie and others who have more time and inclination.
Garpal Gumnut said:Please excuse the capitals but one has to tackle ones intellectual opponents who shout, with shouting.
With great respect to
Ducatti,
WayneL
tech/a
Gorilla
realist
Kennas
Noiruia
magdoran and
moneytree
and too many others to mention
I find it distressing that nobody has posted their profits on this correction. If I were a daytrader I would have carefully plotted my gains and losses over 28/2 and 1/3.
Why could such a significantly talented team of technical analylists fail to anticipate, or utilise this correction.
Why have the very talented anylists in this forum spent more time discussing why "Rome is burning" rather than how as traders they can profit from this.
A few lame bleats emenate from sheepish "traders" saying they may or may not have open call or put positions.
Lets get real.
This is not an intellectual tread for pointy heads to prove their superiority over others.
Trading is about making money.
I don't see or hear any member of ASF who has profitted from this correction.
Lets talk about it.
I'm long term trader but value your guys input, which has been sadly lacking recently,.
Garpal
Great post Doc,Dr Doom said:Garpal,
I think you are missing some of the pieces here, as you imply that none of us are capable of trading any other way but long, when you should probably question yourself as to why you have not looked into taking advantage of moves in either direction.
Why ask the question on going short; it should be part of your everyday trading instruments. This is where the men are sorted from the boys, ie after a great bull run. See who makes real money in a falling market.
I think I can say, on behalf of the people you mentioned in the first post, that the word panic never even entered their minds. I didn't panic as I do trade either way and made more money on the day than I had in the last month. It's irrelevant what the actual dollar amounts are, as long as you can make money either way.
As far as scaring newcomers, then they should be scared; it's not going to be a one way 'bet' anymore.
Garpal Gumnut said:Please excuse the capitals but one has to tackle ones intellectual opponents who shout, with shouting.
I find it distressing that nobody has posted their profits on this correction. If I were a daytrader I would have carefully plotted my gains and losses over 28/2 and 1/3.
Why could such a significantly talented team of technical analylists fail to anticipate, or utilise this correction.
Why have the very talented anylists in this forum spent more time discussing why .......
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