Israel Folau - Breach of contract or right to free speech?

[moXJO]

Folau won....
Big payout, can still preach his rubbish and allowed to play rugby again.
Must have been a big payout as well. He had the money and the backing to go all the way.

RA will be sacking board members and dealing with the fallout. Shame it didn't make the courts. Would have been an interesting test case.

 

[satanoperca]

Meanwhile, "Islamophobia" is in the process of being criminalised.

Not Christophobia
Not Sihkophobia
Not Buddhaphobia
Not Rastaphobia
Not Shintophobia
Not Wiccanphobia
Not even Coulrophobia (sic?)

Think about that.

Why?

Sorry you did not get the press release but I have been campaigning hard for the following things to be criminalised :

• Waynelophobia
• Equinophobia - they are only good to eat

Punishable by eating the testicles of Scomo

 

[moXJO]

Punishable by eating the testicles of Scomo

Dude... thats homophobic

 

[satanoperca]

Dude... thats homophobic

Then I am homophobic, a racist (I hate white people, especially men who are bold), anti cultural, anti ethnic, anti national and a misanthrope.

Oh, did I mention, a total distrust for those that like horses.

So, is there anyone else I can offend in the name of xxxxx.

 

[PZ.]

Meanwhile, "Islamophobia" is in the process of being criminalised.

Not Christophobia
Not Sihkophobia
Not Buddhaphobia
Not Rastaphobia
Not Shintophobia
Not Wiccanphobia
Not even Coulrophobia (sic?)

Think about that.

Why?

What about Atheisophobia?

After all we're the ones that keep getting told we're going to hell. Some one just got paid a truck load of money for doing just that. Talk about special treatment. Fully sick, bro

 

[wayneL]

Then I am homophobic, a racist (I hate white people, especially men who are bold), anti cultural, anti ethnic, anti national and a misanthrope.

Oh, did I mention, a total distrust for those that like horses.

So, is there anyone else I can offend in the name of xxxxx.

Dude, I could've told you all horse people are nuts

 

[Logique]

CEO Raelene Castle - resign
ARU Board - resign

When has Australian Rugby ever been at such a low point as it is now? There was never any need for it to come to such an ignominious end (for Rugby Australia). Mishandled from the beginning.

 

[Knobby22]

CEO Raelene Castle - resign
ARU Board - resign

When has Australian Rugby ever been at such a low point as it is now? There was never any need for it to come to such an ignominious end (for Rugby Australia). Mishandled from the beginning.

Has it happened yet?
I was listening to Irish born reporter Catherine Murphy on the ABC and she was very upset with everyone but especially Folau who she says has damaged Rugby badly.

She said Rugby hasn't got a broadcast deal, lost their main sponsor, they performed poorly in the world cup, they are now rating below soccer and basketball.

As a fan she was quite sad and angry. It is a low point that the sport will have trouble recovering from.

 

[PZ.]

Good luck finding another sponsor then - they tend to take a dim view of hate speech.

According to the conspiracy theorists, that's what led to this outcome.

 

[sptrawler]

Trying to use your position in running a sporting body, as a beachhead for social engineering, was always going to be difficult.
To pick such an abstract incident, to hang their hat on, was always going to be a loser.
They would have been better far better off, waiting until the end of year shenanigans that happen every year and made an example of one of those. IMO
The Folau case smacked of a personal vendetta, rather than an honest attempted to correct poor conduct, the punishment far exceeded the indiscretion.IMO
All involved should be sacked. Just my opinion.

 

[Logique]

Arsenal deftly deflects the whole Ozil controversy. It's just the players personal opinion, not ours says the club.
What, you can do that?
Yes you can, ARU Board and CEO. And it's much less expensive

Arsenal distance themselves from Mesut Özil comments on Uighurs’ plight
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-from-mesut-ozil-comments-china-uighur-people
- Midfielder highlighted persecution of Muslims in China
• Club says it ‘does not involve itself in politics’ in statement
..Arsenal have distanced themselves from comments made by Mesut Özil on Instagram..
..“Regarding the comments made by Mesut Özil on social media, Arsenal must make a clear statement,” it read. “The content published is Özil’s personal opinion. As a football club, Arsenal has always adhered to the principle of not involving itself in politics.”...[/QUOTE}

 

[sptrawler]

Interesting development post the Israel Folau incident, apparently Rugby Australia gagged players from supporting Folau, no wonder they settled out of court it must have been getting awkward.
Christian Wallabies Sekope Kepu and Samu Kerevi say Rugby Australia 'muzzled' their support for teammate Israel Folau. Christian Wallabies felt muzzled by Rugby Australia during the Israel Folau saga, leading to division in the locker room before the World Cup, explosive court documents reveal.(Daily Telegraph)

 

[sptrawler]

The sporting codes are kicking up about the proposed religious freedom bill, maybe if R.A had been more circumspect and not so heavy handed with the penalty they handed out, they may have more money and the bill wouldn't have been required.
Just my opinion, but it seemed to be the biggest case of blowing your feet off, in recent history.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/spo...d-religious-freedom-bill-20200303-p546fv.html

 

[macca]

The sporting codes are kicking up about the proposed religious freedom bill, maybe if R.A had been more circumspect and not so heavy handed with the penalty they handed out, they may have more money and the bill wouldn't have been required.
Just my opinion, but it seemed to be the biggest case of blowing your feet off, in recent history.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/spo...d-religious-freedom-bill-20200303-p546fv.html

Remember the golden rule, He who has the gold makes the rules................

Some sponsors have very strong views on what was posted.

They are sure going to need big sponsors if the TV rights are not bid up very soon.

 

[sptrawler]

Remember the golden rule, He who has the gold makes the rules................

Some sponsors have very strong views on what was posted.

They are sure going to need big sponsors if the TV rights are not bid up very soon.

No point in having sponsors with strong views, that upsets supporters with strong views, that is counter productive.
Finishing someones working career, over a vaguely perceived insult, doesn't pass the pub test as they say. IMO
When other players had been cautioned or fined, for what could be classed as outrageous behaviour, at past end of year celebrations.
Just my opinion, from the outside looking in, not a fan or follower of the sport or religion. Just found the whole incident very interesting and entertaining.

 

[sptrawler]

Finally the media is asking people who matter, rather than just the weird ones, who have serious mental issues.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/we...au-this-is-their-verdict-20200308-p5482f.html
From the article:

While the majority of clubs are still opposed to Folau's return, the NRL is bracing for support to continue to grow.

"All we hear is about inclusiveness, but it's hypocritical to say we're a game that accepts everyone when we won't accept him or his beliefs," one club figure said.

"If he agrees to strict rules and has learnt his lesson, why shouldn't he be allowed to come back? He hasn't committed a crime."

There's a growing realisation from head office that, should a club attempt to sign Folau, the NRL could have a legal battle on its hands if it tries to stand in the way.

The NRL has already sought legal advice on the matter but hasn't had to act as clubs wait to see how he performs in his first season in rugby league since 2010.

This has a long way to play out yet, some must be wondering, how long they will be in a job.
Who knows, Israel may be heading for a second go, at the redundancy package.
Just my opinion.

 

[sptrawler]

Rugby Australia reports a $9.4 million loss, that is probably what they paid Folau.

https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/03/30/rugby-australia-annual-general-meeting-update

 

[PZ.]

I was waiting for Folau to make some silly comment about God shutting down the footy like he did with the bushfires but it seems at last he has had the decency of restraint for once.

If God really did start the bushfires as stated then I'd be the first atheist to send religion a tax invoice to pay for all the damage.

 

[moXJO]

I was waiting for Folau to make some silly comment about God shutting down the footy like he did with the bushfires but it seems at last he has had the decency of restraint for once.

If God really did start the bushfires as stated then I'd be the first atheist to send religion a tax invoice to pay for all the damage.

Drought, fire, toilet paper famine, plague, cancellation of khabib vs Ferguson. It's biblical times.

 

[Logique]

How Folau must be laughing now

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-...rugby-pay-war-turns-ugly-20200401-p54g4n.html
'They're being treated with contempt': Rugby pay war turns ugly
By Georgina Robinson and Tom Decent - April 2, 2020

"Past players union bosses have accused Rugby Australia of treating its athletes with "contempt" and chief executive Raelene Castle came in for vicious criticism from a former Wallaby as the coronavirus pay stalemate continued on Wednesday..."