Israel Folau - Breach of contract or right to free speech?

[jbocker]

All this money talk is showing me how out of touch Folau is with the day to day public and money. I take it, he is entirely engulfed by his religious beliefs and there are too many advisors in his ear, if there wasn't I would start to wonder about sniffing for a rat.

 

[jbocker]

Breaking news.

Folau's Go Fund Me account has been terminated.

Another Group Think decision no doubt.

GOOD. Some sense at last. Hadnt read that before my prior post.

 

[bellenuit]

GoFundMe's statement:

“As a company, we are absolutely committed to the fight for equality for LGBTIQ+ people and fostering an environment of inclusivity. While we welcome GoFundMes engaging in diverse civil debate, we do not tolerate the promotion of discrimination or exclusion,” the statement read.

“In the days since Mr Folau's campaign launched, more than one million dollars have been donated to hundreds of other campaigns, large and small, across Australia. Those acts of kindness are the heart of GoFundMe.”

“Our platform exists to help people help others. Australians have shown themselves to be among the most kind and generous people in the world. We look forward to helping more Australians fundraise for causes they care about in the coming months and years.”

 

[SirRumpole]

GoFundMe's statement:

“As a company, we are absolutely committed to the fight for equality for LGBTIQ+ people and fostering an environment of inclusivity. While we welcome GoFundMes engaging in diverse civil debate, we do not tolerate the promotion of discrimination or exclusion,” the statement read.

“In the days since Mr Folau's campaign launched, more than one million dollars have been donated to hundreds of other campaigns, large and small, across Australia. Those acts of kindness are the heart of GoFundMe.”

“Our platform exists to help people help others. Australians have shown themselves to be among the most kind and generous people in the world. We look forward to helping more Australians fundraise for causes they care about in the coming months and years.”

So why did they get involved at all ?

 

[sptrawler]

So why did they get involved at all ?

Or does it beg the question, who decides what can be funded and what can't? Who becomes the moral adjudicator on that one.
From memory, didn't Sarah Hanson Young, start a go fund me page to sue the other Senator?

 

[wayneL]

Think about this

In my opinion I do not think the comments were homophobic in the slightest. They did not seek to discriminate or disadvantage LGBT people at all.

Likewise they did not seek to discriminate or disadvantage drunkards or idolaters. Drunks and those members of other religions who indulge idolatry otherwise members of those communities would have equal grievance.

It is curious that only homosexuality was selected, and please, ffs, the idea that this brings the ra into disrepute is totally ludicrous, as per my earlier argunent.

Likewise, just go to my earlier argument about gender and sexuality politics and the flexing of new ideological muscles.

Furthermore all this serves to alienate probably a great swaithe the population just like they did with the NFL and the stupid take a knee BS... its core demographic I would suggest.

Bye bye rugby, yoy are doing a great job of destroying your sport.

 

[qldfrog]

Yes PC bull**** as a pretext to push the globalist view,
Grand scale mass manipulation
Ok now i have to give some cash to Israel.anyone knows how we can help fund his fight?

 

[moXJO]

Folau wants to show his termination was based on his religion, and that is why he is going to the FWC.
Even if Folau were an atheist his social media foray breached the code of conduct which he undertook to uphold. RA know this and that is why they regard Folau's religion as incidental as that of an atheist who did the same thing.

Thats the defense its not the outcome.

 

[sptrawler]

So why did they get involved at all ?

It just shows how much leverage the 'virtue signalers have' IMO, now they can stop people giving money to what they feel is a good cause, so obviously 'Go Fund Me' is o.k as long as the 'left' agree with the cause. lol
It may unintentionally drag them into the into the mud, amazing how a storm in a teacup, can become a full blown cyclone.
So now what happens, Folau can't afford to take on the war chest of R.A, this isn't going to end well.
Will Go Fund Me be sued, for stopping people donating?

 

[SirRumpole]

It just shows how much leverage the 'virtue signalers have' IMO, now they can stop people giving money to what they feel is a good cause, so obviously 'Go Fund Me' is o.k as long as the 'left' agree with the cause. lol
It may unintentionally drag them into the into the mud, amazing how a storm in a teacup, can become a full blown cyclone.
So now what happens, Folau can't afford to take on the war chest of R.A, this isn't going to end well.

Yes that's right. Go Fund Me should just act as a broker or middleman between those who want funds and those willing to give them and shouldn't be a holier than thou judge of the merits of the case.

They obviously have the right to draw the line at criminal activities, but is seems that once again the group thinkers and virtue signallers have won.

 

[sptrawler]

Yes that's right. Go Fund Me should just act as a broker or middleman between those who want funds and those willing to give them and shouldn't be a holier than thou judge of the merits of the case.

They obviously have the right to draw the line at criminal activities, but is seems that once again the group thinkers and virtue signallers have won.

If Go Fund Me has already funded a similar case, it is setting a rather strange precedent, as you say the are either there to facilitate or they aren't.

 

[sptrawler]

I wonder if there will be an out of court settlement and I wonder if we will hear about it?

 

[jbocker]

Yes PC bull**** as a pretext to push the globalist view,
Grand scale mass manipulation
Ok now i have to give some cash to Israel.anyone knows how we can help fund his fight?

I am a bit confused are not all religions based on making it a globalist view.​

 

[rederob]

Absolutely nothing, same as what the rugby player said, it is just an opinion and it isn't against the law to have one. Yet

Rubbish! Folau clearly breached a provision of his employment!

 

[rederob]

In my opinion I do not think the comments were homophobic in the slightest. They did not seek to discriminate or disadvantage LGBT people at all.

If that were the case, then why did they need to do something to curry favour with Folau's beliefs? What quality of person was attributed to them?

It is curious that only homosexuality was selected, and please, ffs, the idea that this brings the ra into disrepute is totally ludicrous, as per my earlier argunent.

I have never seen that was the case against Folau - what he did was use social media inappropriately.

 

[rederob]

Thats the defense its not the outcome.

But you keep suggesting RA has acted unlawfully, and cannot show how.

 

[SirRumpole]

what he did was use social media inappropriately.

According to his employer , which as I've demonstrated could cover a multitude of sins, real or imagined that employers could conjure up as an excuse to sack someone they don't like.

 

[rederob]

According to his employer , which as I've demonstrated could cover a multitude of sins, real or imagined that employers could conjure up as an excuse to sack someone they don't like.

Yes, because in Folau's case, he signed a contract which included those conditions, and they were lawful.
Again, why repeat your points without understanding the context?

 

[sptrawler]

Rubbish! Folau clearly breached a provision of his employment!

Well that is what the courts are there for, obviously someone was worried, to force the withdrawl of funding.

 

[moXJO]

But you keep suggesting RA has acted unlawfully, and cannot show how.

Um no... I was originally showing that you didn't know the law prior.
Is this the new tangent we are going on?
Moxjo proves Folau's case.
Wins admiration from all.