The nature of the damage needs to be unambiguous.A question is how far does it go?
For example Rugby Australia is sponsored by Qantas. As with all airlines Qantas uses a lot of jet fuel and is thus a fairly big polluter in terms of CO2.
Now what if one of these rugby players posts something online urging people to vote for a political party which advocates a carbon tax or other price on CO2 emissions?
Not directly bad for the employer but not good for a major sponsor's business if someone's going to tax them more.
So what's the response? Sack them?
Or the link is too indirect since it's only the sponsor and not the employer itself being harmed by the action being advocated?
My point there is about where to draw the line on this overall concept not about Qantas or climate change specifically, they're just an example. I picked politics given that religion has already been done....
Not so.The area seems so broad that any employer could seemingly call a breach of contract for virtually any statement by an employee that potentially, possibly, directly or indirectly (note legal jargon) causes a loss of revenue , or even loss of reputation for the employer.
From this most likely:It's not in mine.
He could have got these from the Bible, but seemed to overlook them:
I guess it depends which god people choose as to the foolishness of their beliefs.
- selling one’s daughter into slavery (Exodus 21:7)
- stoning one to death for working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2)
- women not being permitted to speak in church (Corinthians 14:34)
- not wearing clothes woven from two materials (Leviticus 19:19)
- not eating shellfish (Leviticus 9:10).
Perhaps books that arose from practices condoned a few thousand years ago should be updated.
Tink, if you have a comment about Folau or freedom of speech, then make it.
I have various King James versions.Rob what bible were you reading to not find the quote?
Ok thought it might have been something different. Its in the king james version.I have various King James versions.
Here is something more contextual.
The decision has already been made.Ok thought it might have been something different. Its in the king james version.
It is a quote from the bible so it will be interesting to see how they play it. Especially with the amount of islanders that play.
I thought the church recently backed away from there being a "hell" or something to that effect?The decision has already been made.
It's a clear breach of the players' Code of Conduct.
WRT the Bible, there were no contemporaneous references to homosexuality. Those references are only found in relatively recent versions. But that's not really the point. Free speech can have consequences. That is, your right to an opinion does not confer an immunity from other actions. This has been very much proven by the number of political candidates who have now been disendorsed.
As an aside, that Folau can believe that I, as an atheist, could go to Hell is very amusing.
Perhaps worse, however, is his idea that Christians can gather converts by targeting their frailties.
I suspect most people are aware they are not perfect as it's part and parcel of the human condition.
If course, if he had posted at ASF I would have asked that he provide evidence of what he claims.
Being a athiest, I have always been very suspicious of why Jesus Christ who could walk on water did not venture down to the Southern Hemisphere to enlighten first hand the local Pacific Islanders and Indigenous Australians etc. Instead the locals were left in the dark until the white man missionaries came a knocking and spread the gospel. Sounds like pure brain washing to me.Islanders can be very religious.
Well whitey came in and told us all how it was. Now they get offended at what they created. Religion is deeply ingrained on many of the elders. And you are right it was basically brainwashing.Being a athiest, I have always been very suspicious of why Jesus Christ who could walk on water did not venture down to the Southern Hemisphere to enlighten first hand the local Pacific Islanders and Indigenous Australians etc. Instead the locals were left in the dark until the white man missionaries came a knocking and spread the gospel. Sounds like pure brain washing to me.
Is see Israel Folau has set up a GoFundMe page to help raise $3 million towards his legal fees in fighting the Australian Rugby Union. The guy is loaded and now he is crying poor. What a bloody disgrace.
I am confused.That was my first impression too but,
he said he's already spent $100,000 in legal fees at Rugby Australia's hearing. Going to the Federal Court and High Court will run into millions.
Being a Christian I'm guessing he gives away a lot of money to various charities.
I'm guessing the Gofundme page wasn't his idea, but ultimately his responsibility yes. There'd be a lot of people in his ear.
I am confused.
Folau worships someone who can turn bad people into good people so they can enter some (fictional) heaven.
But this god he worships cannot get his employers to see he is right?
Something here is amiss, don't you think?
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