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NO, Australian Christian Lobby have donated $100,000. They also have set up a new donations website.
Fact not opinion!
Circular opinion
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When you disagree, you need to show how your ideas are viable.For once, i disagree:
this is a show case for freedom of expression/speech, and the rulings will apply to all in the foreseeable future.
On the second point, it's a matter of a person's right to state their opinions without being sacked for it. This is a pretty basic right in my view, whether the opinions are religious, political or anything else. These rights are worth fighting for as they apply to all of us, not just rugby players so I think they have to be taken seriously
Consistently wrong.
There are laws offering workplace protections for those aggrieved by the opinions of others. That is, it is a basic right to attend your place of work and not be discriminated against, harassed or bullied.
You still do not get it Rumpy!
That is not the point I made, so selectively drawing on just one of the issues I raised does not help your cause.Robbie , Folau is not bullying anyone, he's leaving that to God in the afterlife !
Can't you understand that ?
Unrestrained freedom of expression is not reconcilable with extant workplace laws.
He warned people, implied they were sinners, said they were headed for hell, but not if he did as quoted. That's a classic case of bullying under any definition you throw up.I'm saying what Folau has said does not amount to bullying and does not affect his ability to do his job and therefore he shouldn't be sacked
No, so long as it is consistent with prevailing workplace laws and other contractual constraints.People should be able to express their opinion on any subject they like as long as it doesn't detract from them doing their job
RA cannot support contracted players breaching the code of conduct they agreed to and still you cannot see this!If RA had just said "we don't agree with what he said, but support his right to say it", the situation would be over now.
And I have shown it is NOT.On the second point, it's a matter of a person's right to state their opinions without being sacked for it. This is a pretty basic right in my view, whether the opinions are religious, political or anything else.
He warned, he implied they were doing something wrong and told them they would go to a fictitious place.He warned people, implied they were sinners, said they were headed for hell, but not if he did as quoted. That's a classic case of bullying under any definition you throw up.
He warned people, implied they were sinners, said they were headed for hell, but not if he did as quoted. That's a classic case of bullying under any definition you throw up.
I posted in the "5 Commandments thread.Only if you actually believe in God, Heaven and Hell, if not the statement is meaningless.
I posted in the "5 Commandments thread.
Use applicable law to support you ideas rather than offer your opinion.
That's your idea.The general argument in the Folau thread has not been about the Bible or religion, but about people's rights to express their opinions about any subject they choose without retaliation from their employers.
That's your idea.
Folau is going to see if the FWC agree with him that his termination was unlawful
That in itself, doesn't make him unworthy.There are so many better people out there to defend or donate money to, than Israel Folau.
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