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US Markets bears are in control. and well if price of Gold to drop 20%
I reckon US Markets will drop ??%
And the next few days if the US Markets drop expect the % of drop to be increasing
Hello Bean,Yes, bulls may be just about back in command S&P 500 1522 resistence 1530 will that be top of a right shoulder. also longer charts nice double top 2000 and 2007?
China is it forming a doulbe top?
Gold clinging to US$650 but its still going US$ 540 when?
(sooner rather than later)
http://http://www.financialsense.com/market/daily/tuesday.htm
One must also remember that this gold chart is in US$. The A$ version doesn't look quite the same. Specifically, where there's a similar peak in April to the one in February on the US$ chart, the April one was much lower on the A$ chart.
Cheers,
GP
Hello Bean,
Since you mentioned it, are you still bearish on the US markets currently as you have forecast many times? Please post exact dates and price levels for the S&P 500 as attached.
It would be interesting for you to also give the exact date of the $540 low for Gold that you are forecasting please, since it is of little use to mention a price level without putting it in a time context. In the markets, timing is everything.
Regards
Magdoran
The US stock Market Indexes are again oversold so if we get a rise monday then more than likely fall tuesday and wednesday.
If Gold and US gold Indexes 'rise monday' then down and testing 650 again
Well I used the word "IF" a few times in the quote because the US markets are "OVERBOUGHT" not "oversold"
So any rise the next few days could be capped. I see downward preesure.
Any major rise puts it completely oversold.
Rise in China today maybe will complete there double top?
Gold - Gold rose but the indexes just fell. So may see the test of US 650 tonight/tomorrow?
But didn't the US market go up? Wasn't that a prediction yesterday - market down?Testing the US$ 650 looks like I was a day out
You're making so many predictions that I can't keep up with them all.
I suppose, you'll get it all right one day bean and you'll be a genius.
You're making so many predictions that I can't keep up with them all.
I like following gold and even all the so-called experts who have a more limited opinion have been right and wrong on their gold calls. Gold is clearly following it's own path with no alliance to oil, currency or the international markets.
Watch and see
The thing is Gold Indexes are still close to a stage for a breakout or breakdown because the fall in the Indexes has not been big. They are winding up like a coil. So I do know the move when it happens (Gold its self been US662 and US650 so its winding up as well) will be 'big'
I think for gold to really shineD) a few things need to happen first. The first one is for US interest rates to remain steady or fall. This is probable if the mortgage meltdown gets worse. The second will be a flight to perceived safety, which traditionally will be the $US. After the initial rise in the $US there will be a dramatic reversal as it becomes clearer that it is doomed. In the meantime gold will be under some pressure & even lower. Maybe we are at that stage now?
Once the $US breaks below 80 gold will have it's day in the sun.
Some volatile times ahead but they will present a once in a lifetime opportunity to get set in an exploding gold market. Stage 3, the mania phase, is close comrades
The Downs And Ups Of Gold In A Crisis
FN Arena News - June 27 2007
By Greg Peel
Gold is supposed to be the safe haven of safe havens. While the US dollar has largely taken over the role of safe haven of choice in recent years, a falling US dollar has helped push gold up from its lows in the (US$) two hundreds to the six hundreds now. Not a bad run for gold. Global excess liquidity and and a raft of new investment products have aided in this rise.
But we are supposedly now facing a financial market crisis of at least some degree of magnitude. It may all blow over, but either way the uncertainty created by the US sub-prime mortgage scare should really be enough to send investors running for cover - into something that will prevent the erosion of their wealth. That should, by rights, be gold.
But that hasn't happened. Indeed, the opposite appears true. When the first US mortgage scare hit in February, gold fell US$40. This seems somewhat counterintuitive. As the second scare begins to engulf us, gold has begun to slip again and is in real danger of breaking down. Why is this so?
The more recent woes in gold began when US bonds made a sharp jump in yield to above 5% for the first time in a long time. While there are various influences suggested for this jump, including renewed inflation fears and foreign portfolio diversification, none were considered anything other than bearish for gold. Yet if inflation really is rising, then gold is a hedge. And if foreigners are divesting of US dollar assets, then the dollar should fall and thus gold rise.
Firstly, fears of wholesale foreign diversification have so far proven unfounded. Secondly, a rise in inflation will lead to a hike in the Fed funds rate, which is bullish for the US dollar and such bearish for gold. Thirdly, as bond rates rise the cost of holding gold (which provides no income) becomes greater. What an investor really needs to consider are both the micro and macro scenarios.
As smaller, short term movements occur within the financial markets gold will react accordingly. It is only when the macro picture becomes influential that gold will begin to act more like "the barbarous relic" that it is often called. This may occur if there a threat of nuclear attack perhaps, or World War III, or oil runs out, or California slips into the sea, or some such significant event. But it might also occur if the threat of financial calamity moves from short term to long term, or code orange to code red, such as if, for example, fiat currencies were under threat of becoming worthless due to the sheer extent of financial market collapse. It may also occur if the threat of global inflation became so great (which is tied into the previous example) that gold "decouples" from the US dollar and no manner of interest rate rise can save the dollar in the end.
It is for the latter reasons that the world currently contains many (patient) uber-bulls.
But in the short term the situation is different. When the Chinese stock market plunged, setting off the sub-prime scare and a brief yen carry trade scare as well, it was not a good time to be in gold. That is because the first reaction of the investor who is losing money in another asset class - the stock market for example - is to liquidate whatever he's got to avoid ruin, or at least avoid heavy losses. Or maybe he needs to meet margin calls. The latter can be very much the case in these highly leveraged times.
Hence gold holdings are dumped. It has long been a mantra that a portion of gold should be held against any stock portfolio as the safety net in a crash. While this is still the case, the fact is that safety net can only be exploited by selling the gold. In the case of the Chinese stock market, so fond of gold are the Chinese that there was no doubt plenty to sell when it looked like the Chinese stock market - full of first time investors - might crash.
And as we now face another potential wholesale sell-down in equities and other assets, gold is falling once more. It is now teetering at the significant technical support level of US$635-640/oz. The feeling among many a gold observer - bulls included - is that it will break. When it does, US$600/oz is next and that's looking breakable as well.
The sharp fall in gold overnight was aided by options expiries in the futures market. The silver market copped even more of a pasting for the same reason. The problem is that there were large positions in short put options that had been established on the upswing. If these became "in the money", then the put sellers would need to sell silver futures to cover - quickly. This is not lost on the rest of the market, so the game becomes "who can set off the stops".
That gold might fall to below US$600/oz has not deterred the longer term bulls. Certainly, if the current financial crisis accelerates then the expectation is that a short sell-off will be replaced by some pretty serious buying. The sort of buying that might see gold testing that magical US$850/oz level sooner rather than later.
But for now, it's a waiting game. Bottom picking can be dangerous.
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