JohnDe
La dolce vita
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that would depend on the size ( and fuel efficiency ) of the engine
if it was a glorified lawn-mower/motor scooter engine .. it might give you some cost savings , as a renter , however maintenance service costs as the owner might be more ( assuming you are not recovering vehicles with float batteries all the time )
my experiences have been Camry hybrids as a taxi passenger ( over a reasonable distance across the city ) and they seemed to be OK at thatAs a hire car it is ok, but I would not recommend it to anyone. My recommendation would be to choose either a ICE or na EV, but not this hybrid.
- Toyota's hybrid systems typically feature a gasoline engine, an electric motor, and a battery pack. The electric motor can assist the gasoline engine, especially during acceleration and driving at lower speeds, improving fuel efficiency. The system can also run on electric power alone for short distances at low speeds.
While the Corolla’s hybrid powertrain does a generally good job of making the car quick enough at low speeds, you can’t fight physics. Ultimately you might be left wanting for power, particularly if you travel on the highway a lot and definitely if you intend to use the top half of the speedometer.
I’m in Darwin for a week visiting an in-law that is 84 and not doing so well. I booked a Subaru loan car for the size of the rear to fit 2 walking aids, instead they gave me a Toyota Corolla Cross hybrid EV. Today we had one walker in the rear with plenty of room, tomorrow I find out if I can squeeze in a wheelchair next to it.
I drove about 80 kms today, trying to use battery & the EV motor as much as possible but found it pointless. After about 5 minutes driving the engine cuts in, either as the power source or to charge the battery.
What is the point of having an hybrid EV if the majority of the time the engine is running?
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Fascinating, and the USA with Ford Tesla and others were really building battery factories to rival Chinas volumes to come second in the world!The rate of battery evolution is now ballistic. Very good overview of how quickly the technology has moved.
Tidbit. In China EV cars are cheaper than ICE cars. Period. Simpler design. fewer components. Battery costs falling through the floor.
Hybrids advantage is evident in stop start city traffic, but I suppose you could say that about EVs also.I’m in Darwin for a week visiting an in-law that is 84 and not doing so well. I booked a Subaru loan car for the size of the rear to fit 2 walking aids, instead they gave me a Toyota Corolla Cross hybrid EV. Today we had one walker in the rear with plenty of room, tomorrow I find out if I can squeeze in a wheelchair next to it.
I drove about 80 kms today, trying to use battery & the EV motor as much as possible but found it pointless. After about 5 minutes driving the engine cuts in, either as the power source or to charge the battery.
What is the point of having an hybrid EV if the majority of the time the engine is running?
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Hybrids advantage is evident in stop start city traffic, but I suppose you could say that about EVs also.
amazing what a bit of demand does to creativity and developmentThe rate of battery evolution is now ballistic. Very good overview of how quickly the technology has moved.
Tidbit. In China EV cars are cheaper than ICE cars. Period. Simpler design. fewer components. Battery costs falling through the floor.
Dispatch from Shanghai
I last visited Shanghai nearly four decades ago, as a backpacker. I returned this week to find a city in many ways barely recognisable. It is still frenetic and enthralling, yet the once imposing buildings constructed by the British, French and other colonial powers have now given over dominance of the skyline to an abundance of skyscrapers. The neon garishness of shops selling Western and, increasingly, Chinese brands is the most obvious symbol that communism has given way to consumerism.
Simon Wright
Industry editor
Yet if I had to nominate the most profound change, it would be on the streets. It is an exaggeration to say that there were no cars in Shanghai in the 1980s, but only just. A few beaten up taxis and fleets of equally battered buses vied for road space that teemed with bicycles, then the transport of the masses. There are still some bikes and plenty of electric scooters, not to mention a comprehensive metro system, but the roads are now nose to tail with cars.
It is cars that bring me back to Shanghai after too long a break. It is the week of the country’s leading motor show, which rotates annually between here and Beijing, a more functional but less charming city. This is the chance for China’s established and up-and-coming carmakers, of which there are plenty, to show off their wares alongside the once dominant foreign competition, which they are rapidly supplanting.
Chinese carmakers have accelerated through the gears with incredible speed. A huge bet placed by the government in the early 2010s that the car of the future would be electric has paid off handsomely. This year perhaps three-fifths of car sales in China, the world’s biggest market, will be electric. This dominance has put Chinese carmakers at the forefront of electrification as well as the software that defines the driving experience. They are now poised to draw ahead in self-driving technology, too, if the systems on display are anything to go by.
So getting to grips with the Chinese car industry has never been more important for me. Shanghai’s show is on a scale surpassing anything I have seen before. Immense glitzy stands in huge halls showcase firms that are exporting and gaining recognition in the west such as BYD, Chery and XPeng, as well as other manufacturers that may never try to make the journey and recognise as much by having only names depicted by Chinese characters.
But this year feels like one of introspection after the celebratory air in Beijing in 2024, when the Chinese were thriving at home and seemed ready to surge abroad. A faltering domestic economy and Donald Trump‘s trade war are shaking consumer confidence, which will have an impact on sales in China. Yet the tariffs talked of most are those imposed by the EU last year to slow the flow of imported Chinese vehicles to the continent.
Phrases such as “in it for the long haul” spill out of the mouths of Chinese and foreign executives as they assess the various new forces buffeting the industry. Nonetheless, the astounding advances of the Chinese car industry are here for all to see—as is the incredible transformation of Shanghai in only half a lifetime.
an interesting questionThat’s what I thought, but unless you’re accelerating from standstill at crawling speed the combustion engine is continuously cutting in after the initial 5 minutes of stop start driving. I’m wondering if it has anything to do with the A/C.
yes i watch BYD closely because APE signed up an exclusive deal ( at the time ) to distribute BYD in AustraliaThanks to @divs4everBYD Doubles Quarterly Profit as EV Sales Soar — Update
By Jiahui HuangChinese auto giant BYD continued to outpace Tesla in the first quarter, reporting a doubling in net profit on robust growth in its electric-vehicle business.The Chinese EV maker said Friday that its net profit surged to 9.15 billion yuan, equivalent to $1.26 billion, from 4.57 billio…www.tradingview.com
As a hire car it is ok, but I would not recommend it to anyone. My recommendation would be to choose either a ICE or na EV, but not this hybrid.
- Toyota's hybrid systems typically feature a gasoline engine, an electric motor, and a battery pack. The electric motor can assist the gasoline engine, especially during acceleration and driving at lower speeds, improving fuel efficiency. The system can also run on electric power alone for short distances at low speeds.
While the Corolla’s hybrid powertrain does a generally good job of making the car quick enough at low speeds, you can’t fight physics. Ultimately you might be left wanting for power, particularly if you travel on the highway a lot and definitely if you intend to use the top half of the speedometer.
Lovely car. I would want the base model. I saw this month thecSealion 7 is the top selling EV car surpassing the Tesla! 59K. Still a lot of dough.
Lovely car. I would want the base model. I saw this month thecSealion 7 is the top selling EV car surpassing the Tesla! 59K. Still a lot of dough.
Yea, and probably a better car for comfort rather than performance Tesla is better at that.All reviews I have watched or read have praised the quality and the technology, the only thing negative that is mentioned is that the efficeincy is lower than most.
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Yea, and probably a better car for comfort rather than performance Tesla is better at that.
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