So what do you reckon about this Osbourne Effect? I'm not interested in buying another ICE car and will wait for an EV that is similar on price.
Although in the mean time, not keen on getting bent over to pay $1700 for a dealer water pump replacement on a VW. A bit of back and forth ended up $600. That crap will be gone!
I would think as EV penetration becomes larger, building codes will be changed to make solar/battery combinations a prerequisite in the building codes.I am more worried by the last mile than actual overall production
Very very similar actually to internet delivery issues and NBN
But let's stick to the wheeled ones.or the fact you can get quasi free ev on lease in the EU
I think he's realised he's cocked up and has dug his hole so far he needs to dig it back to plato.
He does not understand the very report he's using as his hill to die on.
Aftermarket parts are usually higher quality for lower cost. Hate to break it to you man but car dealerships make far more money servicing their cars & selling the parts for $ridiculous markup than they do selling the cars.
It's like how printers are cheap but the money is made in selling you the ink for 10,000% markup.
What a head spinner we have here...
Chronos trotting out the Allegory of Platos Cave as he steadfastly attempts to "prove" that EV cars are wildly expensive in terms of energy infrastructure which in any case should be 3 squillion nuclear power stations.
And yet it just isn't. And this economic and physical reality has been repeatedly demonstrated across almost all people who have direct experience in the field.
Plato has a point. Interestingly enough a world that finally recognizes that clean renewable energy is the only way to proceed versus polluting, planet destroying finite fossil fuels is definitly a Plato moment.
And whatever one thinks there is no way Plato would countenance making 1 and 1 equal some fantastical amount - simply to justify some preconceived vision.
It is you that have no clue about the report, your claim that the electrical consumption of EVs will not require additional capacity is just nonsense.
I've never claimed that. Not once.
Are you going to answer the question about rainfall or not?
I am actually a bit busy; happy to have a sensible and rational discussion, don't have time for trolling and mud slinging at the moment.
For the sake a good thread can everyone stop feeding the troll?
You said: off-peak would be sufficient
I said: that we will require significant additional installed electrical capacity.
As more and more capacity gets installed to deal with a growing population and peak summer time use of aircons etc, it is a literal truth that off peak capacity will also grow, especially for the rest of the year when those aircons are off or idling.
but that is seriously my last comment to you on this subject, I have pointed out that I disagree with your analysis while also not disagreeing with the KPMG stuff.
No body here is saying that we won’t need more capacity in total over the next 26 years, we just don’t agree that it is an arguement against EV’s.
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So unless you want to talk about something else, or you want to talk about interesting details about how this added capacity can be achieved in the next 26 years as the demand grows, then I don’t really want to engage anymore.
As more renewables are added to the grid the present concept of "off peak" will change. Time of use billing can further "balance" the changes in load.I was happy to discuss the future of EVs, you just want an echo chamber.
You said: off-peak would be sufficient enough for the electrical consumption requirements of EV uptake moving forward over the coming decades.
I said: that we will require significant additional installed electrical capacity.
You want to talk about rainfall? Why? What about it?
I am actually a bit busy; happy to have a sensible and rational discussion, don't have time for trolling and mud slinging at the moment.
Exactly, stay in the cave.
I was happy to discuss the future of EVs, you just want an echo chamber.
All boils back to energy density, as the guy says, there is an application for both batteries and hydrogen.Dude from Nikola, Trevor Milton, just did a podcast on Tesla Charts. TC is big in the TESLAQ Twitter community. Fancy that aye, following and listening to someone with a Twitter account dedicated to bringing down Tesla???
Very compelling argument for why hydrogen is better for long range trucking. He is also a fan of EV tech in the right application. Nice to hear someone with nuanced argument who realises the most likely solution will be a combination of technologies.
Batteries are great for metropolitan light transport work, hydrogen great for heavy load long haul work. Just my opinion.
Following Trevor’s line of reasoning, batt tech would have to make some major leaps forward for it to be superior to hydrogen. Few things I want to follow up, but he tells a good story
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tcs-chartcast-teslacharts-georgia-orwell-uYqMyJTiQKN/
Ah yes, there's a "no" missing there.You probably meant no drama
This absolutely.No body here is saying that we won’t need more capacity in total over the next 26 years, we just don’t agree that it is an arguement against EV’s.
No I didn't. I said the KPMG report is deeply flawed due to the assumptions it is based on.
Answer the question about the rainfall.
"You just want an echo chamber", coming from the guy that hasn't actually addressed or answered a single question or point I've made.
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