China's Economy

martaart077 · 14 April 2021

rederob said:
The driving force of our economy - CHINA (not America) - has shifted into the next gear.

Vote with u feet and go (back) to China u hypocrite.

A real positive to come out of this pandamic is an overall awareness by the general Australian population of the pervasive and negative influences of China on our Australian way of life.
Witness Andrew Forrest's discraceful display last year in hijacking the Health Ministers press conference with his Chinese mates.
To be sure, a stunt like that in China would have resulted in imprisonment or death penalty.

rederob · 14 April 2021

againsthegrain said:
Nothing reliable has ever come out of china, including their threats and scare campaigns which are full of holes like old jocks

Why are you posting if you have nothing but nonsense to offer.
Your standard of living has more to do with China than any other country.
Our markets are more sensitive to what is happening in China than any other nation.

rederob · 14 April 2021

martaart077 said:
Vote with u feet and go (back) to China u hypocrite.

A real positive to come out of this pandamic is an overall awareness by the general Australian population of the pervasive and negative influences of China on our Australian way of life.
Witness Andrew Forrest's discraceful display last year in hijacking the Health Ministers press conference with his Chinese mates.
To be sure, a stunt like that in China would have resulted in imprisonment or death penalty.

Really?
All you seem to show is bile.
Oh, and Twiggy snaggled us 10 million covid test kits from China because the commonwealth's incompetence left us short. Yes, that was disgraceful!

Value Collector · 14 April 2021

martaart077 said:
Vote with u feet and go (back) to China u hypocrite.

A real positive to come out of this pandamic is an overall awareness by the general Australian population of the pervasive and negative influences of China on our Australian way of life.
Witness Andrew Forrest's discraceful display last year in hijacking the Health Ministers press conference with his Chinese mates.
To be sure, a stunt like that in China would have resulted in imprisonment or death penalty.

No, the health minister hijacked Andrew Forrests press conference, Andrew Forrest had already organised that press conference, and the health minister asked if he could piggy back onto it, and Andrew Forrest agreed to allow the health minister to speak.

But, I understand that haters are going to hate, and people will twist things to what ever way they want to see them.

Andrew did not have to allow the health minister to speak, he could have told the health minister to go and organise his own press conference but he didn’t, he did the right thing and allowed the health minister to speak, which unfortunately back fired because it opened him up to idiots like you saying he high jacked his own press confrence.

finicky · 14 April 2021

rederob said:
And the basis for you and the already warned @Clansman saying for this is?

Mate, you just want an opportunity to dump your prepared PRC propaganda file on us like last time. Then we're supposed to get immured in tit for tat trench warfare with a fifth columnist when we could be browsing a pr0n site or youtube instead. F#*-k you, we know when fish stinks whatever the vendor says, lol, ??

Clansman · 14 April 2021

rederob said:
And the basis for you and the already warned @Clansman saying for this is?

About time you started posting some content. Your posts remind me of a chinese submarine... too many holes. That's why they sink in the dock. As do your posts. Put some fabric in your posts instead of fabrication.

Joe Blow · 14 April 2021

I really don't want to see this thread get personal. Whatever someone believes, there is no excuse for insulting or attacking them personally. Attack the beliefs and/or opinions by all means, but take the high road and play the ball, not the man (or woman).

Debate and discuss the issues in good faith please. Otherwise, we all know how this thread is going to turn out. And I'd rather not go there.

Humid · 14 April 2021

Value Collector said:
No, the health minister hijacked Andrew Forrests press conference, Andrew Forrest had already organised that press conference, and the health minister asked if he could piggy back onto it, and Andrew Forrest agreed to allow the health minister to speak.

But, I understand that haters are going to hate, and people will twist things to what ever way they want to see them.

Andrew did not have to allow the health minister to speak, he could have told the health minister to go and organise his own press conference but he didn’t, he did the right thing and allowed the health minister to speak, which unfortunately back fired because it opened him up to idiots like you saying he high jacked his own press confrence.

And when he did it in Perth?

finicky · 14 April 2021

Ok, heard that, apology

rederob · 14 April 2021

finicky said:
Mate, you just want an opportunity to dump your prepared PRC propaganda file on us like last time. Then we're supposed to get immired in tit for tat trench warfare with a fifth columnist when we could be browsing a pr0n site or youtube instead. F#*-k you, we know when fish stinks whatever the vendor says, lol, ??

You don't actually offer anything - as per this post from you - while I am presenting economic data relevant to our business decisions.
Aside from China's clear effect on our markets, they influence our standard of living, not just through products that are made more cheaply, but because of royalties and tax inflows from companies with China as their principal customer.
This thread should be loaded with matters that affect trading and investment rather than the forum's focus on America that pervades the thinking of many.

Value Collector · 14 April 2021

I can tell you that my FMG dividends certainly improve my life and the life of everyone working in the businesses in which I spend them so thank you China.

China indirectly supports so much government and private spending in Australia.

rederob · 14 April 2021

Clansman said:
About time you started posting some content. Your posts remind me of a chinese submarine... too many holes. That's why they sink in the dock. As do your posts. Put some fabric in your posts instead of fabrication.

I have posted 23 links supporting the factual basis of my posts in this thread since 31December 2020, plus included charts and other supporting material.
All you have done is make the comments we typically see from trolls.
As the RBA notes China has a profound effect on our economy. Despite China's dominance in many sectors, capital inflows remain meagre, although that's seldom the picture being spun in the media. China gets more bang for their buck buying into lesser developed markets for their non-mineral commodity supply chains.

Value Collector · 14 April 2021

Humid said:
And when he did it in Perth?

I am unsure of the location, I am talking about the one when Greg Hunt asked him if he could join in the press conference, and then the media flipped out saying Andrew hijacked Greg’s press conference.

which one are you talking about?

rederob · 14 April 2021

Value Collector said:
I am unsure of the location, I am talking about the one when Greg Hunt asked him if he could join in the press conference, and then the media flipped out saying Andrew hijacked Greg’s press conference.

which one are you talking about?

Watch:

Hunt was so childish!

martaart077 · 14 April 2021

ABC have been well and truly discredited as being a mouth piece for the left and woke.
Their so called news reports carry no weight.

Vote with u feet. Go to China. You will love it there. Or maybe u escaped from there.
Not everything is about money.

rederob · 14 April 2021

martaart077 said:
ABC have been well and truly discredited as being a mouth piece for the left and woke.
Their so called news reports carry no weight.

Vote with u feet. Go to China. You will love it there. Or maybe u escaped from there.
Not everything is about money.

I suggest you read post #187

martaart077 · 14 April 2021

@Value Collector

Don't let the truth stand in the way of u propaganda nonsense
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Greg Hunt blindsided as Chinese consul-general crashes press conference

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By Eryk Bagshaw, Anthony Galloway and Darren Gray

Updated April 29, 2020 — 6.53pmfirst published at 4.29pm

Billionaire miner Andrew Forrest has been accused of ambushing the Australian government after he parachuted one of China’s top diplomats into an official event, blindsiding Health Minister Greg Hunt.
Mr Forrest, the Fortescue chairman, surprised Mr Hunt by inviting China’s consul-general for Victoria Zhou Long to speak alongside him on Wednesday after he secured 10 million coronavirus tests from China, a 20-fold increase in Australia’s testing capacity.

Humid · 14 April 2021

Value Collector said:
I am unsure of the location, I am talking about the one when Greg Hunt asked him if he could join in the press conference, and then the media flipped out saying Andrew hijacked Greg’s press conference.

which one are you talking about?

againsthegrain · 14 April 2021

Value Collector said:
I don’t know about that, I have a microwave that is turning 20 years old this year, still works great, Hahaha.

Seriously? Totally taking aside its made in china a 20yo microwave is something you should think twice about.

Even its working good chances it has developed or developing radiation leaks are fair, unless u have the gear to test it, or hide behind a wall each time you use it, time to upgrade before u start having migraines and vomiting randomly

Value Collector · 14 April 2021

againsthegrain said:
Seriously? Totally taking aside its made in china a 20yo microwave is something you should think twice about.

Even its working good chances it has developed or developing radiation leaks are fair, unless u have the gear to test it, or hide behind a wall each time you use it, time to upgrade before u start having migraines and vomiting randomly

Hahaha, yeah I have thought of that, and will be replacing it once our kitchen Reno is done, but It was the first appliance I ever bought myself when I left home, and it still works great.

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