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Australian Federal Election 2025

A thing that I was surprised at

James McGrath on the ABC election coverage struggled to accept the swing to Labor which I can understand but he also said he was a Ronald Regan disciple and that the Liberal party had to get the middle ground on board with those values , smaller government, tax cuts and freedom etc.

Regan was president 36 years ago, ended in 89.

The world has totally changed WTF would you be thinking todays answers come from then?

The Liberal party and Nats are still stuck in the past i.e. boomer values, from there are lessons to be learnt but today and tomorrow are totally different social acceptance being gay an example.
 
The Liberal party and Nats are still stuck in the past i.e. boomer values, from there are lessons to be learnt but today and tomorrow are totally different social acceptance being gay an example.
Isn't the acceptance of homosexuality fundamentally an acceptance of personal liberty though?

The argument back in the 1990's was absolutely a "small government" one. That government has absolutely no place interfering in the lives of consenting adults so long as nobody who did not consent, or is unable to consent, is involved.

Overall that seems like a libertarian argument, it's not in any way an argument for big government.

More generally, off that subject, I think the Liberal party, and to a lesser but still considerable extent Labor, have chosen to deliberately misinterpret what the concept of small government is intended to be about. Both have chosen to take it as being about outsourcing government work and selling physical assets, physically downscaling the role of government, rather than it's intended meaning being about removing unwarranted control over society. It was intended to cut the influence of politicians, it wasn't intended to be about replacing public servants with contractors and consultants at triple the cost.
 
A man a plan a canal Panama.
 
One VERY sad point for democracy is that it seems Senator Rennick and fellow Bob Katter are very much at risk of disappearing, so with no real independent of value, who is going to raise the flag, let alone stop the bipartisan rorts?
My summary of the election: the WEF has won
 
This is excellent and never hear it before, nor the one from @StockyGuy ..the hidden advantage of a migrant: discovering anew some cultural basis.
Now let's do the same with the Spanish culture for my latter years..
Alli trota la tortilla

La moral, claro, mal
 
One of the contenders to be Liberal leader, Shadow Treasurer Angus Taylor, has been blasted by Liberal senator Hollie Hughes, who claims his lack of policy work was to blame for the party's election rout.

"I have concerns about his capability. I feel we have zero economic policy to sell," Senator Hughes said on Radio National.

"I don't know what he's been doing for three years. There was no tax policy, there was no economic narrative."

 
Chalmers ran rings around Taylor, who had no idea at all.
 
A very interesting thing is the primary vote has changed since 2022, but not by a huge amount, on the latest figures.

In 2022 election Labor won with a primary vote of 32.58% with 4.7m votes, the libs lost with a primary vote of 35.7% and 5.2m votes.

in 2025 ATM Labor have a primary vote of 34.8% with 4.5m votes , the libs have a primary vote of 32% and 4.2m votes.

So IMO, it will be interesting to see the final primary vote and numbers, at the moment on a primary vote basis, the Libs are bleeding primary votes which IMO is down to Dutton.

Preferences obviously have played a big part, but Dutton and the Libs have lost a lot of primary votes to Labor or others.
 
Treasurer Jim Chalmers certainly gave one A Taylor a hefty spray on Saturday night.
 
If Albanese can put up reasonable legislation – say on the necessary expansion of gas production and in the market – then the Coalition would be honour-bound to stop Greens shenanigans and support Labor. John Howard built Coalition credibility from opposition by agreeing to many of the reforms of the Hawke-Keating years, and whoever is the new Liberal leader would be well advised to do the same, no matter how much it helps Albanese.
This is where the real test is for Albanese’s exercise of his new-found power: will he be prepared to divert from a status quo on Labor policy – particularly in areas where the policy-free Labor election campaign clearly needs to change for the good of the nation.
Albanese has a mandate to govern but that must include adjusting for changing circumstances – as he has noted himself when altering previous positions.

 
When the fanfare and the dust settles, Canberra still has a problem.


The major party vote decline continues

Despite Labor’s big win, Australia’s two-party system has continued its long-term decline, with the combined major party primary vote dropping again compared with 2022:



If these primary vote splits hold once the remaining votes are counted, then we will have crossed a significant, albeit symbolic threshold – at least one-third of Australians will have voted for someone other than a Labor or Coalition candidate for the first time.
 
Therefore we have a problem in that more than a third of voters don't have adequate representation.

In other contrasting news, from the cretinous leader of the Greens:

"We stand ready in the Senate to make this the most progressive parliament that Australia has seen."

Which means they intend to enforce outsized influence, ie more influence than is due to them.

The system is broken.
 
Maybe the TEALs should have stood for the Senate not the House, at least they may have thrown the Greens out.
They would have to form a party. Very dangerous for the Libs,

There was an excellent article from Liberal stalwart George Brandis about how Menzies set up the party to be a winning machine by taking the Liberal and Conservative ground leaving Labor to the Left and mostly in opposition and he uses examples over history. The Libs have lost their Liberal wing and are giving Labor an easy time.
Need to get back on track soon or some other party will start and they will be out of business, like Menzies got rid of the previous right wing Australia party.

 
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