Australian Federal Election - 2022

[PZ.]

So how did the "Great Debate" go?

Only saw 5 minutes and reached the same conclusion as Murpharoo... A genuine shit blizzard.

Pity Australia’s voters: awful leaders’ debate cursed by absurd format and incoherent hectoring | Katharine Murphy

All the worst elements of an agonisingly superficial campaign came to a head in a train-wreck brawl hosted by Nine on Sunday

www.theguardian.com

Now I know why it takes an hour and a half to watch 60 minutes.

 

[IFocus]

I just can't see scomo winning. Albo would have to seriously stuff it up. I just don't think it's possible to lose from here.

I don't have a feel for it I am surrounded by Liberal supporters, one sign I guess is they have all stopped talking about the election.

 

[moXJO]

I don't have a feel for it I am surrounded by Liberal supporters, one sign I guess is they have all stopped talking about the election.

The idea of voting liberal is that governments stay out of your business. That's not what happened for the past two governments. Scomo, tbull started a noticeable slide to stifle freedoms not to mention spending like drunken idiots.

Labor is worse of course. But libs need a clean out to get them back to basics.


Given albo is a left-wing fanatic, I'm not exactly looking forward to a Labor term. But we may need some (hopefully) different takes on Australia's current position.

Libs have handled things like covid well imo. But have fallen down in other areas.

A lot of lib voters are drifting off to other parties.

 

[moXJO]

I was listening to some analysis the other day and it for a large part, depends on what happens here in Western Australia.

In my own seat of hasluck, I wouldn't be surprised to see the incumbent Lib go down. Wyatt has been virtually invisible, even the corflute signs are few and far between. He seems totally disinterested in campaigning at all.

...and still hasn't responded to my emails I sent months ago.

I'm still deciding on which order... lib-lab-green or lab-lib-green to put *last.

Then considering the pathetic cult of Kim Jun McMao over here, I wouldn't be surprised to see the punters heading the call, hypnotized, Eloi-like into the Morlockian doom.

Remember the "rah-rah" round Kevin 07. Probably a similar thing round McGowan.
Some of the swing voters get caught up in the cult fever. Not to mention a lack of credible opposition.

Regrets often shown come next election.

 

[Knobby22]

The idea of voting liberal is that governments stay out of your business. That's not what happened for the past two governments. Scomo, tbull started a noticeable slide to stifle freedoms not to mention spending like drunken idiots.

Labor is worse of course. But libs need a clean out to get them back to basics.


Given albo is a left-wing fanatic, I'm not exactly looking forward to a Labor term. But we may need some (hopefully) different takes on Australia's current position.

Libs have handled things like covid well imo. But have fallen down in other areas.

A lot of lib voters are drifting off to other parties.

Frankly this is a hospital handpass for the winner.

Quoting from the Age.

The next prime minister will need to lead a nation of indebted home owners struggling with living rising interest rates, cost of living blowouts and regional geopolitical spot fires while engaging with a recalcitrant crossbench likely to be emboldened by the success of the "teal independents".

Whoever wins this will be kicked out next election. Honestly the libs internally wouldn't want to win this one. They get rid of Scomo, clean up the front bench and likely come in with a massive majority in 3-4 years.

 

[moXJO]

Frankly this is a hospital handpass for the winner.

Quoting from the Age.

The next prime minister will need to lead a nation of indebted home owners struggling with living rising interest rates, cost of living blowouts and regional geopolitical spot fires while engaging with a recalcitrant crossbench likely to be emboldened by the success of the "teal independents".

Frankly, whoever wins this will be kicked out next election. Honestly the libs internally wouldn't want to win this one. They get rid of Scomo, clean up the front bench and likely come in with a massive majority in 3-4 years.

It's possible albo will surprise to the upside and end up being a decent PM. God knows there's little "slickness" about him.
Opinions are set pretty low, so it's easy to jump the bar.

Everything you typed is right. Hopefully we jump on the India bandwagon next and survive any "bloodbath".

 

[IFocus]

The idea of voting liberal is that governments stay out of your business. That's not what happened for the past two governments. Scomo, tbull started a noticeable slide to stifle freedoms not to mention spending like drunken idiots.

Labor is worse of course. But libs need a clean out to get them back to basics.


Given albo is a left-wing fanatic, I'm not exactly looking forward to a Labor term. But we may need some (hopefully) different takes on Australia's current position.

Libs have handled things like covid well imo. But have fallen down in other areas.

A lot of lib voters are drifting off to other parties.

I have watch Albanese for a long time and he far from a left wing fanatic more central in his politics but certainly has a social consonance.

Albanese will be fine as Australian PM as long as the team behind him behave, he wont have he same power over his MP's like Morrison who has a far nastier streak.

As for the current crowd in for the Coalition / Liberals they long departed the traditions of the Liberal party and have gone down the ideological, corporate sponsored, market fixes every thing neoliberal BS road.

Of course this all gets thrown out to get re-elected spending is it $200bil (debt)... unbelievable.

As Knobby says next term will be pretty hard and Labor wont have the PR capabilities to sell there efforts no matter how good.

Still Labor really just have two jobs ICAC and royal commissions into rorts, conflicts on Ministers and ROBO debt there needs to be public hangings and flogging for those.

 

[wayneL]

I have watch Albanese for a long time and he far from a left wing fanatic more central in his politics but certainly has a social consonance.

Albanese will be fine as Australian PM as long as the team behind him behave, he wont have he same power over his MP's like Morrison who has a far nastier streak.

As for the current crowd in for the Coalition / Liberals they long departed the traditions of the Liberal party and have gone down the ideological, corporate sponsored, market fixes every thing neoliberal BS road.

Of course this all gets thrown out to get re-elected spending is it $200bil (debt)... unbelievable.

As Knobby says next term will be pretty hard and Labor wont have the PR capabilities to sell there efforts no matter how good.

Still Labor really just have two jobs ICAC and royal commissions into rorts, conflicts on Ministers and ROBO debt there needs to be public hangings and flogging for those.

What's the point when you have clowns like Andrews who are able to not co-operate.

An ICAC will be absolutely useless without *neutrality, *independence and *TEETH.

 

[SirRumpole]

Albanese will be fine as Australian PM as long as the team behind him behave, he wont have he same power over his MP's like Morrison who has a far nastier streak.

I agree with that.

Labor's front bench looks pretty good. Clare and Chalmers especially.

I'm still a bit worried about the thrusting women like Kenneally and Wong and the underlying political correctness that values gender/racial/sexual identity above ability.

There needs to be some hard heads on the financial front. No one has mentioned a mining tax, but surely that has to be on the agenda given our massive debt and deficit.

To not consider that measure is to condemn taxpayers to decades of debt.

Neither side has said anything about the revenue or savings side. That's pretty disingenuous in my opinion.

 

[wayneL]

Frankly this is a hospital handpass for the winner.

Quoting from the Age.

The next prime minister will need to lead a nation of indebted home owners struggling with living rising interest rates, cost of living blowouts and regional geopolitical spot fires while engaging with a recalcitrant crossbench likely to be emboldened by the success of the "teal independents".

Whoever wins this will be kicked out next election. Honestly the libs internally wouldn't want to win this one. They get rid of Scomo, clean up the front bench and likely come in with a massive majority in 3-4 years.

It's a reasonable hypothesis.

However the LNP has not managed to do so in any of the state jurisdictions thus far.

Let's say Scotty gets the arse, who then? Who would truly represent the core Liberal voter with at being fodder for the largely left-wing media?

Who is the truly centre-right candidate that won't be white-anted by the likes of Turnbull and the leftist media.

Liberals do not have a candidate which truly represents their base constituency, who is also electible.

I'm not trying to predict the result in 3 years time but what I am predicting is that it's going to be a worse shemozzle. again

 

[Knobby22]

It's a reasonable hypothesis.

However the LNP has not managed to do so in any of the state jurisdictions thus far.

Let's say Scotty gets the arse, who then? Who would truly represent the core Liberal voter with at being fodder for the largely left-wing media?

Who is the truly centre-right candidate that won't be white-anted by the likes of Turnbull and the leftist media.

Liberals do not have a candidate which truly represents their base constituency, who is also electible.

I'm not trying to predict the result in 3 years time but what I am predicting is that it's going to be a worse shemozzle. again

I reckon they are behind the times and reactive. A modern leader with a stated agenda would be popular.
Up to them.

 

[wayneL]

I reckon they are behind the times and reactive. A modern leader with a stated agenda would be popular.
Up to them.

Do you mean by "behind the times" and "more modern leader"?

 

[Knobby22]

Do you mean by "behind the times" and "more modern leader"?

On the way to somewhere but its just about every facet of government.
Energy policy is a good example. So much more that could be done better to advatage Australuan businesses longterm against their international competitors. Industry policy , maybe have one.

 

[wayneL]

On the way to somewhere but its just about every facet of government.
Energy policy is a good example. So much more that could be done better to advatage Australuan businesses longterm against their international competitors. Industry policy , maybe have one.

So basically following the WEF agenda?

On the way to somewhere but its just about every facet of government.
Energy policy is a good example. So much more that could be done better to advatage Australuan businesses longterm against their international competitors. Industry policy , maybe have one.

So you mean basically following the wef agenda?

I am going to out on a limb and say that is actually a regressive, antihuman agenda. Perhaps it might take a few years or even a few decades to prove that. Maybe I will have even carked it by that time, but I am 100% certain that I will be proven right.

The bizarre thing is that I don't even have children where I have skin in this game, whereas those with children sing to be happy to consign them to a dystopian world.

 

[IFocus]

Whatever happened to visionary politics, big policy ideas, and governments with bold reform agendas?

Australia faces a range of daunting challenges, yet Coalition and Labor governments have been in the grip of policy paralysis.

That’s the view of public policy experts, Martin Parkinson and John Daley.

Why has policy ambition stalled, and what can be done about to address it?

Paul Barclay speaks to Martin and John at Adelaide Writers Week.

Recorded on March 9, 2022

Speakers:

John Daley – Professorial Fellow, University of Melbourne; former CEO, the Grattan Institute.

Dr Martin Parkinson - author, A Decade of Drift; former Commonwealth Treasury Secretary; former Secretary of the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet.

Policy Drift - ABC listen

Whatever happened to visionary politics, big policy ideas, and governments with bold reform agendas? Australia faces a range of daunting challenges, yet Coalition and Labor governments have been in the grip of policy paralysis. That’s the view of public policy experts, Martin Parkinson and John...

www.abc.net.au

 

[wayneL]

Whatever happened to visionary politics, big policy ideas, and governments with bold reform agendas?

Australia faces a range of daunting challenges, yet Coalition and Labor governments have been in the grip of policy paralysis.

That’s the view of public policy experts, Martin Parkinson and John Daley.

Why has policy ambition stalled, and what can be done about to address it?

Paul Barclay speaks to Martin and John at Adelaide Writers Week.

Recorded on March 9, 2022

Speakers:

John Daley – Professorial Fellow, University of Melbourne; former CEO, the Grattan Institute.

Dr Martin Parkinson - author, A Decade of Drift; former Commonwealth Treasury Secretary; former Secretary of the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet.

Policy Drift - ABC listen

Whatever happened to visionary politics, big policy ideas, and governments with bold reform agendas? Australia faces a range of daunting challenges, yet Coalition and Labor governments have been in the grip of policy paralysis. That’s the view of public policy experts, Martin Parkinson and John...

www.abc.net.au

Actually, I would like government to butt out as much as possible. Leave us the f*** alone to run our own lives.

 

[IFocus]

Actually, I would like government to butt out as much as possible. Leave us the f*** alone to run our own lives.

Like how they butted out of the banks ripping off all and sundry blind (still do) unabated?

 

[IFocus]

What's the point when you have clowns like Andrews who are able to not co-operate.

An ICAC will be absolutely useless without *neutrality, *independence and *TEETH.

Andrews, Vic state premier?


Talking federal ICAC hopefully along the lines of the NSW state ICAC.

 

[sptrawler]

I think this election is the most definitive one in my lifetime, I just am looking forward to the outcome.

 

[PZ.]

RE: centre-right leader - I think the Libs might eventually consider Michaelia Cash if she drops out of the senate.

Also... who let the PUP out.... again ?

United Australia party directs preferences to Coalition in key marginal seats

Clive Palmer walks back promise to preference incumbents last as part of concerted campaign against the two major parties

www.theguardian.com