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Australian Federal Election - 2019

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If it was the other way round, the luvvies would be howling, wouldnt they.
 
qldfrog said:
You are from another area, nowadays it is penis suppression or clitoris augmentation, the rapists ,sorry heterosexual white males,will be eliminated
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Suppression seems relevant given there's a member who surreptitiously posts about penises in other threads despite declaring not having a fixation on them - but I do like his sense of humour.

If we end up with a well hung parliament I'm sure other body parts will rear their ugly heads as horse trading, selling arse, back door deals, front door deals, shirt fronting, space invading and ball tampering all climax culminate to an ineffective Govt, a hostile senate and demands for an early election. To win is to lose IMV...
 

Not to mention suspension of standing orders.
 
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9 May - Link:
"A Liberal candidate, meanwhile, who linked same-sex marriage and paedophilia lives to fight another day.
Gurpal Singh was part of the 'No' campaign ahead of the 2017 same-sex marriage plebiscite.
"I think it is also an issue of paedophilia," Mr Singh told SBS Radio at the time.
The Victorian lawyer also said there would be "very serious" implications for children raised in same-sex households.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison, when pressed about the comments, distanced himself from them.
But he confirmed Mr Singh's candidacy was secure.
In just over a week, the Liberals have lost three candidates and Labor two candidates to social media posts.
They all remain listed as the party's candidates, having lost their endorsement after voting began."​

So, despite being aware of his comments, the PM continued to back Singh.
What we can tell from this PM's actions is that he is a hypocrite and opportunist, relying on public outrage to eventually dump Singh rather than his stated standards or judgement.
 
just a job to pay the bills is all ........



everyone has to do something to make ends meet ....... unless they get some of that $175B annual welfare spend i spose.
 
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This latest act of vandalism in Kooyong using Nazi symbols on a billboard of mine is an insult to every victim of the Holocaust and Australian servicemen and women who fought against Nazi tyranny.

To think that this cowardly and criminal act was committed just days after Holocaust Remembrance Day shows how ignorant the perpetrators are of the horrors of history.

This incident is not about me or my campaign, but about a broader and disturbing trend in society of antisemitism and intolerance.

Mutual respect is at the heart of a good society and let’s debate ideas and people’s words and records, but let’s not as a community accept for one minute this type of behaviour or attitude.

https://joshfrydenberg.com.au/latest-news/statement/
 
HelloU said:
just a job to pay the bills is all ........

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everyone has to do something to make ends meet ....... unless they get some of that $175B annual welfare spend i spose.
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I'll pay that one. Speaking of both subjects > https://theconversation.com/mine-ar...ses-are-the-coalitions-worst-nightmare-116833

On Friday morning the Coalition’s worst dream will come true.

All throughout the campaign, and all through the two terms in office and three prime ministers and three treasurers that preceded it, they’ve argued they are better than Labor at managing money. They had budget surpluses under Howard that Labor didn’t have under Rudd and Gillard.

In the last election, Labor allowed them to get away with it. Its costings document actually forecast a better budget position than the Coalition’s over ten years (because it rejected the Coalition’s expensive company tax cuts) but a worse position over the immediate four-year “forward estimates”, because of its more generous programs.

The Coalition focused on the four years, not the ten, and painted Labor as irresponsible.

Bigger, sooner surpluses
On Friday morning, it won’t make the mistake again. Yes, it’ll detail (and have year by year costs for) programs that are more generous than the Coalition’s, among them cheaper childcare, its Medicare cancer plan and its pensioner dental plan.

But it’ll be able to more than pay for them in every one of the next ten years because of a number of courageous decisions that’ll save money, the most financially important of which is the decision to stop sending company tax refund cheques to people who don’t pay tax. It’ll save it A$5 billion in the first year and more in future years because the cost of the refunds has been balooning.

The result will be a larger budget surplus in every one of the next ten years, including each year of the forward estimates and including the financial year about to start, which is when the budget is scheduled to return to surplus.

So big will be these bigger surpluses that Labor has them on track to hit the Coalition’s target of 1% of gross domestic product four years earlier than the Coalition in 2022-23 rather than 2026-27.

That means that in Labor’s first budget, which it will deliver in August this year if elected as a means of resetting forecasts, its projections will show the long-awaited surplus of 1% of GDP (A$22 billion) within the forward estimates, rather than beyond them as the Coalition’s budget.

All it took was courage, and the ability to withstand complaints from people who own shares but don’t pay tax and are naturally upset about losing government cheques they’ve become used to.

And lower government debt
Bigger surpluses, and the much more rapid delivery of a substantial surplus will mean much quicker reductions in government debt. The budget had the government on track to eliminate net debt by 2030. Labor’s costings will have it on track to eliminate it much sooner.

Despite what the Coalition would like to claim, the key reason why Labor’s surpluses will be bigger than its isn’t that Labor won’t be matching its longer term tax cuts. Bracket creep means tax rates need to be cut or thresholds adjusted from time to time to ensure the personal tax take doesn’t climb too high. Labor’s costings recognise this, including a built-in assumption of tax cuts after the tax take hits 24.3% of GDP, a figure cunningly selected because it was the tax take when Howard left office.

If delivered as income tax cuts, at about the time the Coaltion’s high end tax cuts are due, it’ll cost A$200 billion, but the method of delivery will depend on circumstances at the time.

With future tax cuts baked in
Labor’s “technical assumption” that the tax take won’t climb beyond 24.3% of GDP is different to the Coaltion’s “guarantee” that it won’t climb beyond 23.9% of GDP. It is a technical assumption rather than a promise, of the kind usually included in budget documents as a way of allowing for inevitable future tax cuts.

Without it, Labor’s surplus projections would have been much bigger, and would have been hard to believe. With it, the projections should be credible.

The secret sauce in the Labor’s better budget projections isn’t that it isn’t adopting the Coalition’s tax cuts. It is that it’s tackling the handing out of billions of dollars in dividend imputation cheques to people who don’t pay tax in a way the Coalition wasn’t prepared to.

Not that it didn’t think about it. A file list seen by Fairfax Media shows treasury created a file entitled “Tax Policy - Dividend Imputation” in the lead up to then Treasurer Scott Morrision’s 2017 budget.

The tax reform discussion paper commissioned by his predecessor Joe Hockey found “revenue concerns with the refundability of imputation credits”.
 
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let me guess ....... done in the dead of night. that tells the character story.
 
Tink said:
Mutual respect is at the heart of a good society and let’s debate ideas and people’s words and records, but let’s not as a community accept for one minute this type of behaviour or attitude.
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A party of hypocrites that now finds itself having had to disendorse 7 of its candidates because they never bothered to properly check their social values.
 
wayneL said:
Penny Wong, classless act.
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I hope that is not a precursor to 'in victory revenge-in defeat malice'.It aint over yet Wayne.I do like Penny Wong-understated intelligent and a class act.On the other side one of the better acts is Josh Frydenberg.
 
chiff said:
I hope that is not a precursor to 'in victory revenge-in defeat malice'.It aint over yet Wayne.I do like Penny Wong-understated intelligent and a class act.On the other side one of the better acts is Josh Frydenberg.
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A Wong-Julie Bishop battle over foreign affairs would have been a sight to see. Thanks to the misogyny of the Liberal Party that won't happen.
 
Having a go at two religious black guys in a row yet protecting a white greens race hate speech. Oh robbie

Jokes aside, this election is a lot closer than it should be. And its just been scomo out front as there is no one left in the libs as they all quit, are too toxic, or unknowns.
Labor shouldn't be patting themselves on the back, this election should be a landslide.
Labor having the same dregs as last time doesn't help
Labors policies suck for a huge portion of the economy.
Bill Shorten is a glitter rolled turd.

Despite all this I thought labor would take it easy. Surely independents must be taking up the slack.
 
Agreed. This should be a cake-walk for Labor.

If it was the Labor of old they'd bolt home with a leg in the air. Idendity politics and the toxicity (and surprisingly poor performance in the debates)of Shorten is costing them.
 
Well you can't blame the Murdoch Press for the Libs problems. The are doing every little bit they can to Kill Bill. Another (current) Murdoch journalist is pulling the chain on the toxic reporting processes.

'Craziness has been dialled up': News Corp journalist unloads on his own paper
Rick Morton says journalists at the Australian are increasingly uncomfortable about its political stance and there is ‘guerrilla warfare’ in the newsroom

A News Corp journalist has gone on the record with critical remarks about his own paper, the Australian, saying “the craziness has been dialled up” in recent months.

The paper’s social affairs writer, Rick Morton, told journalism students at the University of Technology, Sydney, that senior writers know what the editorial line is and write stories to fit.

Asked whether the Murdoch paper’s journalists were uncomfortable with the Australian barracking for the Coalition in the election, Morton said they were “more uncomfortable certainly now than at any time I’ve been there in the past seven years”.

“There is a real mood that something has gone wrong,” he said in a podcast posted online by UTS.

“People will tell you going back a decade it used to be a very great paper, and in many ways it still is, but some of the craziness has been dialled up.

“We know what the empire is, we know what the papers do, but something has changed in the last six months. I don’t know what it is. Death rattles or loss of relevance? And journos pretty much spend all day talking about it.”

Morton said editors did not give explicit instructions, but senior writers wrote within accepted parameters or found stories that were so good the paper had to run them despite their slant.

“We kind of know what the editorial line is at the paper,” he said. “The people at the top know what it is and there are key staff … who are old enough and ugly enough to deal with the awful truth that occasionally there is a line that will come out of [news] conference.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/10/news-corp-rick-morton-australian
 
...and still no comment about the far left wing bias of the Guardian from you.

Bias, huh?
 
wayneL said:
...and still no comment about the far left wing bias of the Guardian from you.

Bias, huh?
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The Guardian is chicken feed when it comes to the size of the Murdoch megaphone.

Trying to compare one with the other is like comparing Bambi with Godzilla.
 
wayneL said:
The far left wing bias of the Guardian
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Two points.

1) I was talking about the Murdoch Press both locally and across the world. The Daily Mail. The Fox megaphone. As Rumpy points out the breadth and impact of this media conglomerate with its particular political focus is in another league

2) I reject your version of "a far left bias" at The Guardian. IMV it's just another Wayne diversion smear. The Guardian offers a liberal view of where it like to see the world progress. It uses facts and evidence. It doesn't debase real science in favour of lies and misinformation that are propagated by the shills of big business.

IMV the most damning indictment of the worldwide Murdoch press is it's promotion of climate denialism and rejection of evidence that shows we are facing a collective existential threat.

I am delighted that a couple of Murdoch journalists are prepared to call out the rubbish for what it is. A bit like Khrushchevs epic speech denouncing Stalinism.

The secret speech that changed world history
Fifty years ago Nikita Khrushchev shocked the Soviet Union by denouncing Stalin in a special address to Communist party comrades. The text, detailing the dictator's crimes, was smuggled out of Moscow and later published in full in The Observer. John Rettie recalls his part in the mission and reflects on a pivotal episode of the 20th century
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/26/russia.theobserver



 
Interestingly if one reads the article from The Guardian you'll discover the role it played in exposing the savagery of the Stalin regime.
 
But the guardian pretends to be intelligent whereas Murdoch use naked girls click bait
It is rubbish and does not pretend otherwise whereas the guardian draps itself as journalism...
Worse dishonesty in my view
A bit like the ABC...
 
The Australian was a paper I read a decade ago but I agree with the slide. I haven't read it in a long time.

The Guardian is full of brainwashed twits as well. There is a definite slant and if you can't see it, well you're probably one of said "twits".
I will say that the Guardian did seem to be drifting back to center and ousted a few idiots on their payroll.
 
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