Australia - Indigenous Deaths in Custody

[sptrawler]

This is interesting, this is on the Great Central Road between Uluru and Laverton through the desert.

First thing I noticed when I got to Warakurna is that it is wide open yet Warburton and Tjukayirla both have high fences around the roadhouse, motel and camping areas

Australia's only Indigenous-run police station paving the way for remote communities

Tjukayirla is a fairly recent addition to the Great Central road, it was built in a deal where the Government was going to build a 'boot camp' at Cosmo Newbery to let youth offenders get back to their traditions, it all went pear shaped when the P.C brigade got involved.
The only good thing that came out of it was the petrol station, it was a long haul from Laverton to Warburton, on a tank of fuel in the early days.

 

[orr]

I The only thing you can rely on is the ability to go and check the "facts" that people put forward. The rest is purely opinion. Your Opinion, Jacinta Prices opinion, Marcia Langtons opinion are just that.
You give the impression that anything or anyone attached to the coalition side of the spectrum has nothing worthwhile to add. Perhaps this has become a mere politcal cancelling exercise, rather than a discussion about BLM.

Mmmm...Facts. I like facts. In the pieces Professor Langton has written on Jacinta Price that I've read she quotes many. And bases her assessments on them. And Fact, Is attacked by Prices alt-right fan club.
You Mull obviously have links to baseless conjecture written By Langton I've yet to see... Please post the link... I'll go go out on a limb and suggest you can't. This addresses the two infirm assumptions you originally proffered. And it looks like it's only getting worse.
Indigenous societal relations in this country are not helped by bigotry and ignorance.

Tell me how an incurious and Historically ignorant Prime Minister helps the situation?(it certainly helps his with those of like mind)
The coalition has its uses though; Matt Canavan srpukes Lithium ... time to get out of lithium..
Turnbull, Morrison and Cash slag off Tesla and electric vehicles ...time to get in..
And Angus Taylors going the gas ... Ahhh, dyor.

 

[mullokintyre]

Mmmm...Facts. I like facts. In the pieces Professor Langton has written on Jacinta Price that I've read she quotes many. And bases her assessments on them. And Fact, Is attacked by Prices alt-right fan club.
You Mull obviously have links to baseless conjecture written By Langton I've yet to see... Please post the link... I'll go go out on a limb and suggest you can't. This addresses the two infirm assumptions you originally proffered. And it looks like it's only getting worse.
Indigenous societal relations in this country are not helped by bigotry and ignorance.

Tell me how an incurious and Historically ignorant Prime Minister helps the situation?(it certainly helps his with those of like mind)
The coalition has its uses though; Matt Canavan srpukes Lithium ... time to get out of lithium..
Turnbull, Morrison and Cash slag off Tesla and electric vehicles ...time to get in..
And Angus Taylors going the gas ... Ahhh, dyor.

What baseless conjecture are you talking about? I never made any. Seeing as you bought it up, I searched for some articles by Langton on price. The first onehttps://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2018/08/25/the-folly-jacinta-price/15351192006752
provides nothing but opinions on Price. Its a left wing view by one indigenous women of another Indigenous women from the conservative side. As for the references to the alt right, its pure conspiracy theory.
At least when Price spoke about the high number of Indigenous women attacked by indigenous men, she was using published stats from the ALRC.

In the second piece, Price and Langton are on a panel discussing violence against Indigenous women. There was no animosity then. this article,
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ve-culture-of-silence-fuels-domestic-violence is from a left wing newspaper. There was no criticism of price. They agreed that there was an intolerable level of violence against Indegnous women, mostly comitted by indigenous men. Given that this article was written when Price was a councillor for Alice Springs, but before she was announced as a candidate for the coalition, it would suggest that the reason for Langton's subsequent animosity is purely political.
Your comments about the PM and Canavan suggest that your own prejudice is coming from a purely political perspective. To turn your original query around, are you a member of a Political Party, or maybe even a party hack??

 

[wayneL]

Mmmm...Facts. I like facts. In the pieces Professor Langton has written on Jacinta Price that I've read she quotes many. And bases her assessments on them. And Fact, Is attacked by Prices alt-right fan club.
You Mull obviously have links to baseless conjecture written By Langton I've yet to see... Please post the link... I'll go go out on a limb and suggest you can't. This addresses the two infirm assumptions you originally proffered. And it looks like it's only getting worse.
Indigenous societal relations in this country are not helped by bigotry and ignorance.

Tell me how an incurious and Historically ignorant Prime Minister helps the situation?(it certainly helps his with those of like mind)
The coalition has its uses though; Matt Canavan srpukes Lithium ... time to get out of lithium..
Turnbull, Morrison and Cash slag off Tesla and electric vehicles ...time to get in..
And Angus Taylors going the gas ... Ahhh, dyor.

Thank you for this empirical confirmation of my opinion of you as a radical left wing ideologue with zero balance and zero critical thinking skills.

I love it when extremists expose themselves as unthinking extremists.

 

[IFocus]

Mmmm...Facts. I like facts. In the pieces Professor Langton has written on Jacinta Price that I've read she quotes many. And bases her assessments on them. And Fact, Is attacked by Prices alt-right fan club.
You Mull obviously have links to baseless conjecture written By Langton I've yet to see... Please post the link... I'll go go out on a limb and suggest you can't. This addresses the two infirm assumptions you originally proffered. And it looks like it's only getting worse.
Indigenous societal relations in this country are not helped by bigotry and ignorance.

Tell me how an incurious and Historically ignorant Prime Minister helps the situation?(it certainly helps his with those of like mind)
The coalition has its uses though; Matt Canavan srpukes Lithium ... time to get out of lithium..
Turnbull, Morrison and Cash slag off Tesla and electric vehicles ...time to get in..
And Angus Taylors going the gas ... Ahhh, dyor.

Thanks Orr for a balanced and centred comments unlike the prejudiced and extreme right that turns up here

 

[mullokintyre]

Thanks Orr for a balanced and centred comments unlike the prejudiced and extreme right that turns up here

"You are arguing with a Galah."
Well , I guess that explains a lot.

 

[orr]

Mulligan congrats... I haven't seen a denunciation like that since a good day with Moa's Red Guards. It warms the cockels of an old Trotskyist...
Ohhh but deary me... you've linked to the Schwartz media, Pravda of the Antipodes. Won't be long now and you'll be picking up "The Monthly" in the news agent, open it and wonder why Rolex, Porsche, Abercrombie & Kent and Breguet spend so much money advertising to the Commo's... Put it down quickly before deductive reason takes hold(have my doubts on that) and puts you into deeper and far more vexing ideological conniptions. Go back to what you went in for and stick to the 'lotto'.
Oh Aynel your screams for attention are most pitiful... How you going Jack D?
' a concrete floor'
a cell door'
and John Pat...'
words that scolded themselves into memory thirty years ago. No trouble of anything like that for you and your amyloided up nuerons, all gone by Breakfast tomorrow.

Another great ditty from years back;
'Mulligans tires the treads on the inside ...mmm.. mmm..mmmmm '

Cheers Focus, it's been a fun filled couple of days... One of them may have learnt something.

 

[mullokintyre]

Mulligan congrats... I haven't seen a denunciation like that since a good day with Moa's Red Guards. It warms the cockels of an old Trotskyist...
Ohhh but deary me... you've linked to the Schwartz media, Pravda of the Antipodes. Won't be long now and you'll be picking up "The Monthly" in the news agent, open it and wonder why Rolex, Porsche, Abercrombie & Kent and Breguet spend so much money advertising to the Commo's... Put it down quickly before deductive reason takes hold(have my doubts on that) and puts you into deeper and far more vexing ideological conniptions. Go back to what you went in for and stick to the 'lotto'.
Oh Aynel your screams for attention are most pitiful... How you going Jack D?
' a concrete floor'
a cell door'
and John Pat...'
words that scolded themselves into memory thirty years ago. No trouble of anything like that for you and your amyloided up nuerons, all gone by Breakfast tomorrow.

Another great ditty from years back;
'Mulligans tires the treads on the inside ...mmm.. mmm..mmmmm '

Cheers Focus, it's been a fun filled couple of days... One of them may have learnt something.

Riiiigggghhhht!

 

[IFocus]

Cheers Focus, it's been a fun filled couple of days... One of them may have learnt something.

Anything is possible

 

[wayneL]

It's lovely how Mr Borre, hoists himself by his own petard. There is no question why luxury brands are advertised in whatever version of Pravda the Komrades prefer.

We all know that in communist/socialist societies, everyone is equal. It's just that some people are more equal than others. Poverty is for the proles, Komrade, and we can't have members of the Party slumming it in Toyotas now can we.

You remind me of the Corbynated Chicken after suffering the worst election defeat in decades when he said something like, "We won the argument Komrades."

...and I must admit the screaming for attention jibe did make me burst out laughing at the ludicrous hypocrisy.

Yes indeed, it has been fun filled

 

[orr]

Mr Borre,
petard.
ludicrous hypocrisy.

Yes indeed, it has been fun filled

Less is more... an ethos of the Buahaus. So much more in this case:to wit...( 'ingenii')
Aynle; you're not putting up much to support your argument. In fact nothing.
Professor Langtons Article in 'Pravda' notes half a dozen individual and indigenous groups to support her argument.
Mulligan was asked to come up with one to counter Langton or support his. Couldn't do it. He's gone away to work toward getting his 'treads on outside'.
So on my petard there's something nailed.
You have a rock you run in and out from under. So instead you use the tactic, There's a latin phrase for it... ahhh, doesn't come to mind.... Hypocrisy sounding off like a claxon.
Jack Davis ...'who's he'?
Neville Bonnar...'who's he?'
Kev Carmody..'who's he?'
Charlie Perkins..'who's he?'
like treading on a squeaky toy.
Ruby Hunter ...'who's she?'
Ludwig Mies van der Rohe...'who's he?"
The first First Nation Australian forced to pay income tax in 1947(begs a question. 'first ? 1947?'what?)... who was he?

So are you going to put anything up? Or confirm(reconfirm) yourself a 'irrumabo ingenii'
(someone going to learn at least one thing)

 

[wayneL]

Here a is a useful dissertation about the simmering petard upon which Dr Langton sits, it's a long read, I hope you don't get borred.

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2010/04/the-incivility-of-marcia-langton/