As you see it? On what basis do you say she has little credibility?? Are you speaking from first hand experience? Do you have any data to back that up, or are you just trolling? She has been voted in as a councillor in Alice Springs with a good percentage of them being Indigenous. You don't think perhaps some of them may think she is stating exactly what they feel, especially within the female Indigenous community.As I see it ,she has very little credibility amongst other aboriginals ,and representative aboriginal groups.She has her own agenda.Did she say anything contructive ?You cannot be captain of a football team if you have not got the respect of the rest of the team.
Is she on any representative bodies?I will carry on with the football ananology.If a member,or members of your team get into a fight,do you back them or try to discredit them?What she did was try to discredit them.She could have either backed them,or shut her mouth...You see,some people live by different codes,and hers is one of self interest...in my humble viewAs you see it? On what basis do you say she has little credibility?? Are you speaking from first hand experience? Do you have any data to back that up, or are you just trolling? She has been voted in as a councillor in Alice Springs with a good percentage of them being Indigenous. You don't think perhaps some of them may think she is stating exactly what they feel, especially within the female Indigenous community.
Could your vitriol be because you are a member of the opposite team, if that is the case, it really doesn't matter which team a player plays for as long as they a good and fair player.Is she on any representative bodies?I will carry on with the football ananology.If a member,or members of your team get into a fight,do you back them or try to discredit them?What she did was try to discredit them.She could have either backed them,or shut her mouth...You see,some people live by different codes,and hers is one of self interest...in my humble view
The funny part is, they will be marching for a fair go for black people.Wow! Just feckin Wow!!!
Jacinta does not have the prescribed political view, therefore her view does not count?
For the love of all that is Holy, will you people listen to yourselves? That is the most toxic view I've ever heard.
Jacinta has done more for reconciliation than any person alive in my opinion, against all odds, against all those forces who actually work very hard against any sort of reconciliation for their own end.
Bloody Hell!!!!!!
Back from 5 days in the Flinders....I saw this Jacinta Price on one of the ABC shows at least two years ago.She was opposed to the mainstream Aboriginal bodies and their aspirations.She believed (s) that people can live by bread alone.Things like constitutional recognition are irrelevant to her.The person on this forum that used her opinion ....I suggest could have been a liberal party,or IPA,operative.In the union movement they call people scabs,in the aboriginal movement,if they waste time on her,they would call her Aunty Tomasina.She has chosen her role and it is with the Liberal movement.Could your vitriol be because you are a member of the opposite team, if that is the case, it really doesn't matter which team a player plays for as long as they a good and fair player.
Slagging of at an opposition player, because you hate the other team is pretty pizz poor really, but par for course in Australian politics.
I guess when you were playing footy, you didn't shake the hand of the opposition players, advance Australia fair priceless.
Are you a member of a political party?The anology with football-You do not sell out your team members,you back them right or wrong.And if you do need to counsel them you do so in private.Is this person a member of the aboriginal team?As you see it? On what basis do you say she has little credibility?? Are you speaking from first hand experience? Do you have any data to back that up, or are you just trolling? She has been voted in as a councillor in Alice Springs with a good percentage of them being Indigenous. You don't think perhaps some of them may think she is stating exactly what they feel, especially within the female Indigenous community.
This isn't about teams; this is about having civil discourse to address the grievances. Encouraging people to violently run rampant through our streets isn't the way to deal with this.Are you a member of a political party?The anology with football-You do not sell out your team members,you back them right or wrong.And if you do need to counsel them you do so in private.Is this person a member of the aboriginal team?
As you see it? On what basis do you say she has little credibility??
You don't think perhaps some of them may think she is stating exactly what they feel, especially within the female Indigenous community.
Oh yeah, I forgot. Only Marcia's opinion counts.To address both of your points; You could 'tool up' a bit and read what a serious Indiginious Women has to say about Jacinta Price. Marcia Langton ? ever heard of her? If anything, very very little it appears. Feel comfortable though, you're amungst friends in that regard.
Sadly taking a step back, it is pretty obvious the current situation is not right.crime level is abysmal, DV, education, the lot.
If we can agree that the current system is not working, it is pretty obvious that change is required.
And change is not adding more colour specific laws, it is going back to law order education and opportunities.
If we look at Alice Springs, the town used be a quiet backwater, in the past 10 years it has exploded, there are Soooooo many "help agencies" that the place is really busy.
The vast majority of the income is for people to assist the aboriginals, I would not be surprised if there are more helpers than those needing help.
Yet when I see a carer pushing a wheelchair the person sitting is appears to be an aboriginal but the carer is usually white. Why not train and employ an aboriginal person to do the pushing ?
Perhaps it is a case of they don't need to do it so they don't, which could be why some activists suggest stopping the dole and have a work scheme instead.
When in northern Qld on a tour we were supposed to have a local guide give us a talk for two hours, the Tour Driver started ringing the white coordinator at 7.00 am to confirm an 8.00 am start.
The coordinator could not get anyone to do it, the offer was $400 for two hour work (ten years ago ) they said "No, too early in the morning"
So we went to the art gallery instead, had a chat to the white manager and asked why no one was painting and she said "oh they only paint when they feel like it" which is OK but she wanders around doing nothing until they arrive.
Atsic was paying her to teach them art, housed with a car to do a few hours work each week.
Those on any free benefit often feel there is more coming in two weeks, why should I work
There is just as many non Indigenous welfare lifers. I work as a volunteer at St Vinnies as a financial counsellor trying to help marginal families get on their feet. For the twenty people who are grateful, embarrassed or depressed, I will get one bogan who has known nothing but welfare who come into me with a bunch of bills and just demand that i pay them. We have families that are up to the third and fourth generation where there is no working role model. The thought processes are all about who is going to look after them, and only want quality goods, not second hand stuff. There is no sense of being grateful, or offer thanks, just a sense of entitlement.That's very sad. No work no pay perhaps ?
That's very sad. No work no pay perhaps ?
There is just as many non Indigenous welfare lifers. I work as a volunteer at St Vinnies as a financial counsellor trying to help marginal families get on their feet. For the twenty people who are grateful, embarrassed or depressed, I will get one bogan who has known nothing but welfare who come into me with a bunch of bills and just demand that i pay them. We have families that are up to the third and fourth generation where there is no working role model. The thought processes are all about who is going to look after them, and only want quality goods, not second hand stuff. There is no sense of being grateful, or offer thanks, just a sense of entitlement.
Could you imagine the uproar if that was attempted.That's very sad. No work no pay perhaps ?
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