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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Joe Blow, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. johenmo

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    Impressive test - doubt many learned adults would pass that, even if it was in their own units of measurement.
     
  2. Julia

    Julia In Memoriam

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    All this is simply about accent. Not really much to do with spelling and grammar.
     
  3. johenmo

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    re the bell comment - yes.

    Consider accent leading to different pronunciation over time - why couldn't it impact spelling & possibly grammar? As it becomes mainstream or normal. Look at US spelling - English origins for a fair part of it yet it has been changing.
     
  4. johenmo

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    Julia - this is from today's facebook page of the same family (person is in high school): "Comment for somethink i have all ways wanted to tell u". You can where the g has been replaced by a k. Luckily the "th" remains. Makes me shudder...
     
  5. Julia

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    Oh dear. I can't think of anything to say in response, johenmo.
     
  6. Glen48

    Glen48 Money can't buy Poverty

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    Don't worry they don't know nothfing.
     
  7. sails

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    Oh dear - I was just reading the local school's newsletter and found this written by one of the staff (not teaching staff), but you would think the person typing it would have a spell checker or at least be able to spell correctly:

     
  8. Garpal Gumnut

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    Sorry to correct you mate.

    It's nuffinkt.

    gg
     
  9. burglar

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    Just bin watchun the F!
    ... "gridded up" ...?
    ... "pitted" ...?
    Wat's with these dudes?
     
  10. basilio

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    That was an interesting blast from the past Calliope. And it certainly has been passed around the internet on many sites.

    I think however it might not have been the actual exam for Grade 8 students. I did a check on the Truth or Fiction website which tries to get to the heart of many email viral message.
    http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/1895exam.htm
     
  11. Calliope

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    Thanks basilio. Your conversion to a seeker of the truth in such a trivial matter is refreshing. Let's hope it is reflected in your GW posts.
     
  12. basilio

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    Well Calliope when you and the rest of the CC deniers decide to recognise some climate science that is measured, peer reviewed and real instead of the fanciful BS that you don't even bother to quote anymore we might have a discussion.

    But otherwise it really is a waste of time isn't it ? :)

    _____________________________________________________________________________________

    And it wasn't that trivial to understand that a very widely quoted email was in fact probably misleading. I wasn't having a go at you in any way. The update was just to put everyone on the same page.
     
  13. Moderator

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    OK, so its one snark to each side in the GW war.
    It will now return to spelling and grammar please.

    GW posts in the any of the multiple GW threads please, not elsewhere.
     
  14. Calliope

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    Good luck hunting Snarks:

    snark5.jpg
     
  15. burglar

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    GW?
    Is that abbr. for Good Will?
     
  16. MrBurns

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    Winston Churchill was once asked about his position on whisky.
    Here's how he answered:

    "If you mean whisky, the devil's brew, the poison scourge, the bloody
    monster that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home,
    creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the
    mouths of little children; if you mean that evil drink that topples
    men and women from the pinnacles of righteous and gracious living into
    the bottomless pit of degradation, shame, despair, helplessness, and
    hopelessness, then, my friend, I am opposed to it with every fiber of
    my being."

    "However, if by whisky you mean the oil of conversation, the
    philosophic wine, the elixir of life, the ale that is consumed when
    good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and the
    warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean good cheer, the
    stimulating sip that puts a little spring in the step of an elderly
    gentleman on a frosty morning; if you mean that drink that enables man
    to magnify his joy, and to forget life's great tragedies and
    heartbreaks and sorrow; if you mean that drink the sale of which pours
    into our treasuries untold millions of pounds each year, that provides
    tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our
    dumb , our pitifully aged and infirm, to build the finest highways,
    hospitals, universities, and community colleges in this nation, then
    my friend, I am absolutely, unequivocally in favor of it.
     
  17. burglar

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    "Goodification"?
     
  18. Ruby

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    I know this reply is a bit belated, but.........

    To suggest that the deplorable practices of replacing the suffix "ing" with "ink" and replacing "th" with "f" are examples of the evolution of our language is quite erroneous. They are examples of ignorance and lack of education. When I was young it was considered extremely common to say "somethink" or "nuffink", and I still consider it so. Neither examples are new - London cockneys said "nuffink" and "anyfink" more than 100 years ago.

    Language evolves as new words are added to the lexicon ("computer", "telephone", "internet", "movie" or "cinema" were not around in the 18th century!), old words disappear (we no longer use "thou", "oft" or "hath "), or words change their usage (40 years ago "gay" meant "happy"!). Pronunciation changes (as in the great vowel shift of the 14th and 15th Centuries, and even just in different localities), and we adopt and adapt words and phrases from other languages.

    This is language evolution, and there is a huge difference between the two!!
     
  19. Logique

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    Hi Ruby, that's the one thing I hold against gays, they've pinched a perfectly good adjective and made it an exclusive-usage noun.

    On another subject, the evolution of compound words has been interesting. Printout, logoff, kickoff, flowchart, backup, website, roadmap, pricetag, healthcare, cellphone.
     
  20. johenmo

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    Agree with the last two paragraphs, and share your dislike of the first. When the deplorable practices become so widespread that they become the norm (amongst the majority) then the language has been proven to have evolved. Before that it is evolving - the example given becoming more widespread. Saying "haitch" is another which is more than mainstream - teachers are teaching it by saying it, TV reinforces it by saying it. A newcomer is the introduction of the invisible "h" into the spoken word "Australia", giving an "sh" (ess-aitch) sound. Another is the growing popularity of preformance instead of performance.

    I am aware of the London cockney dialect - a dialect being a regional or social class speech pattern as opposed to, in it's other common usage, a separate language within a region or country that is considered inferior to the mainstream (as you find in France and other European countries). Because they are considered wrong by us at our time doesn't mean they won't be or haven't become part of changes to language. Your statement "...it was considered extremely common to say "somethink" or "nuffink", and I still consider it so." would be considered by some as an example of social classification which further supports it as a regional dialect.

    So you consider the US as spelling and saying things incorrectly, rather than having evolved into into a different accent and dialect? I notice they put seem to put the em-PHA-sis on the wrong syl-LA-ble. :)
     
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