Armenia and the rise of Turkey

[qldfrog]

In the last months, Armenia has been under relentless attack from Turkey and a puppet state.
Turkey is turning into a major regional and economic player as the EU and old Europe self disintegrates, and the US loses any trust with the Ukraine conflict.
While it might stinks, should we now invest in Turkey?

 

[qldfrog]

for a quick summary of current situation:

Armenia, Azerbaijan agree to civilian EU mission alongside border

The two-month EU mission aims to help the arch rivals delineate their common borders, the European Council says.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[divs4ever]

Russia and Turkey are forming STRONG trade ties , the EU might end up being evicted

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Turkiye is a NATO member. Is that a wedge, and how long can this continue?

 

[divs4ever]

you are in a horrific place if you need the EU to help , look at how they are coping with the winter energy shortage

seems Belgium is 'sticking it to Putin ' by shutting down their sole nuclear power plant

 

[divs4ever]

Turkiye is a NATO member. Is that a wedge, and how long can this continue?

there are hints Russia is making very attractive offers to NATO pariah Turkiye ,

the next question would be will Serbia turn it's back on potential EU membership ( i would )

 

[gartley]

In the last months, Armenia has been under relentless attack from Turkey and a puppet state.
Turkey is turning into a major regional and economic player as the EU and old Europe self disintegrates, and the US loses any trust with the Ukraine conflict.
While it might stinks, should we now invest in Turkey?

Turkish economy is disintegrating. Inflation running at 71%, their currency has collapsed against USD to nothing....
Also they are endlessly threatening their neighbours such as Greece with airspace violations every day for years.
Ergodog is a madman in many way no different to Putin causing all sorts of problems in the region, they should be kicked out of NATO

In the last months, Armenia has been under relentless attack from Turkey and a puppet state.
Turkey is turning into a major regional and economic player as the EU and old Europe self disintegrates, and the US loses any trust with the Ukraine conflict.
While it might stinks, should we now invest in Turkey?

 

[divs4ever]

Turkish economy is disintegrating. Inflation running at 71%, their currency has collapsed against USD to nothing....
Also they are endlessly threatening their neighbours such as Greece with airspace violations every day for years.
Ergodog is a madman in many way no different to Putin causing all sorts of problems in the region, they should be kicked out of NATO

yep right into new friends , Syria , Russia , Serbia , Saudi Arabia , maybe even Ian , and Afghanistan

i wonder where NATO will move those airbases to , if it happens .. maybe they will have to move to Israel ( or build fighters with more range )

 

[qldfrog]

Turkish economy is disintegrating. Inflation running at 71%, their currency has collapsed against USD to nothing....
Also they are endlessly threatening their neighbours such as Greece with airspace violations every day for years.
Ergodog is a madman in many way no different to Putin causing all sorts of problems in the region, they should be kicked out of NATO

Funny how any stateman, aka working for a grander vision of his/her nation is described as a madman: Putin, Erdogan or Trump vs Biden the senile..anyone denying this? Is supposedly the sane one.
As per that thread, i am not a friend of Turkey regime,a country which is renewong its empire and has more or less de facto full control of Germany and half of the footprint of its former empire.
But facts are both Turkey and Poland are feeding on the carcass of former western Europe , Poland with the active help of the current US deep state, Turkey with the blind eyes of the same.
It might be geopolitical,but that is a clear sign of economics to come.
Sadly, i am coming late to the party
This is the calendar Turkey etf performance, not exactly a basket case is it?

Anyway, i hope this will help some here...

 

[qldfrog]

Funny how any stateman, aka working for a grander vision of his/her nation is described as a madman: Putin, Erdogan or Trump vs Biden the senile..anyone denying this? Is supposedly the sane one.
As per that thread, i am not a friend of Turkey regime,a country which is renewong its empire and has more or less de facto full control of Germany and half of the footprint of its former empire.
But facts are both Turkey and Poland are feeding on the carcass of former western Europe , Poland with the active help of the current US deep state, Turkey with the blind eyes of the same.
It might be geopolitical,but that is a clear sign of economics to come.
Sadly, i am coming late to the party
This is the calendar Turkey etf performance, not exactly a basket case is it?View attachment 148141
Anyway, i hope this will help some here...

If you wonder: Poland etf is not that great as they are in the EU, have no gas,etc.
Please remember that the turkey performance are in usd so in aud we are above 50%return since start of year, not bad in a bear market...
Mr @ducati might confirm but i believe Turkey is building its gold reserves and boosting independence from USD too

 

[bohemian]

In the last months, Armenia has been under relentless attack from Turkey and a puppet state.
Turkey is turning into a major regional and economic player as the EU and old Europe self disintegrates, and the US loses any trust with the Ukraine conflict.
While it might stinks, should we now invest in Turkey?

The US has not lost trust for supporting Ukraine. Are you a Russian bot?

 

[qldfrog]

The US has not lost trust for supporting Ukraine. Are you a Russian bot?

No,just someone born in europe (western) and with a bit of historical knowledge there.
And i dare to pity both soldiers/victims of that war which in my opinion has been pushed by the US..i know that make me a Putin troll so feel free to use ignore.

 

[bohemian]

No,just someone born in europe (western) and with a bit of historical knowledge there.
And i dare to pity both soldiers/victims of that war which in my opinion has been pushed by the US..i know that make me a Putin troll so feel free to use ignore.

My parents were refugees from Communist Czechoslovakia after the Russian installed their puppet government and then went about terrorising the population, so you can't tell me anything. This war is about Russian hegemony and every Western Democracy knows the consequences if these aggressors are not beaten back. We should all fully support President Biden for organising a coordinated response and providing all the military aid the Ukraines need for fighting what is essentially our battle.

 

[qldfrog]

My parents were refugees from Communist Czechoslovakia after the Russian installed their puppet government and then went about terrorising the population, so you can't tell me anything. This war is about Russian hegemony and every Western Democracy knows the consequences if these aggressors are not beaten back. We should all fully support President Biden for organising a coordinated response and providing all the military aid the Ukraines need for fighting what is essentially our battle.

As you probably know, many if not most of the Russians terrorising your parents after the Printemps de Prague were Ukrainians.
But president Biden ..who ?
I can't tell you anything so you know everything , good on you.i will spare you all pain and save you from thinking cause obviously Armenians deserve to be wiped out, just finishing Turkey 1910s job, as they dare being helped by Russia and not accept being blown to piece by US armed Turkey .
Good luck with "president Biden"

 

[bohemian]

As you probably know, many if not most of the Russians terrorising your parents after the Printemps de Prague were Ukrainians.
But president Biden ..who ?
I can't tell you anything so you know everything , good on you.i will spare you all pain and save you from thinking cause obviously Armenians deserve to be wiped out, just finishing Turkey 1910s job, as they dare being helped by Russia and not accept being blown to piece by US armed Turkey .
Good luck with "president Biden"

It was Russians who occupied Czechoslovakia, and they were sent there by Stalin, and then again 1956 in Hungary and 1968 in Czechoslovakia. Your attempt deflection is lame, Russians haven't changed. Ukraine needs President Biden all other Western leaders to support Ukraine fight Russian hegemony again.

 

[againsthegrain]

It was Russians who occupied Czechoslovakia, and they were sent there by Stalin, and then again 1956 in Hungary and 1968 in Czechoslovakia. Your attempt deflection is lame, Russians haven't changed. Ukraine needs President Biden all other Western leaders to support Ukraine fight Russian hegemony again.

This highlights how Russians work, even if there was Ukrainians there they were forced much like The Polish were used in 1968 to send their tanks into Czech Republic. The same pattern is emerging all over again, now Russians are forcing non slavs from Caucasus villages to fight for them and kill slavs in Ukraine. The pattern is the same under Stalin under Putin USSR is strong and alive.

Russians will help Armenians yes, for the price of sending their kids as cannon fodder into the next conflict.

Russia has always only helped itself and always will, just have to see it for what it is.

Biden and USA of course have their own agenda but nothing like Russian machine.

 

[qldfrog]

This highlights how Russians work, even if there was Ukrainians there they were forced much like The Polish were used in 1968 to send their tanks into Czech Republic. The same pattern is emerging all over again, now Russians are forcing non slavs from Caucasus villages to fight for them and kill slavs in Ukraine. The pattern is the same under Stalin under Putin USSR is strong and alive.

Russians will help Armenians yes, for the price of sending their kids as cannon fodder into the next conflict.

Russia has always only helped itself and always will, just have to see it for what it is.

Biden and USA of course have their own agenda but nothing like Russian machine.

I doubt Biden has any agenda or any brain cell left for cognitive reasoning, would actually like to know who is actually leading the US now and sending EU to the slaughter but that is a different issue;
Armenians will be happy to be used as cannon fodder in the next conflict as opposed to being minced meat now, or they can always wait for US help don't they?

To go back to the subject, anyone dared looking at the 50% gain since january of the TUR ETF I posted?

 

[againsthegrain]

I doubt Biden has any agenda or any brain cell left for cognitive reasoning, would actually like to know who is actually leading the US now and sending EU to the slaughter but that is a different issue;
Armenians will be happy to be used as cannon fodder in the next conflict as opposed to being minced meat now, or they can always wait for US help don't they?

To go back to the subject, anyone dared looking at the 50% gain since january of the TUR ETF I posted?

Yeah I feel for the Armenians, having everybody turn their backs on them I can certainly see the limited choices they have, especially being stuck in such a geographical position

 

[gartley]

yep right into new friends , Syria , Russia , Serbia , Saudi Arabia , maybe even Ian , and Afghanistan

i wonder where NATO will move those airbases to , if it happens .. maybe they will have to move to Israel ( or build fighters with more range )

I think they have already moved some of their assets to Suda Bay, Crete and they are also expanding the Greek port of Alexandroupolis which is close to the Bosporus.

 

[gartley]

Funny how any stateman, aka working for a grander vision of his/her nation is described as a madman: Putin, Erdogan or Trump vs Biden the senile..anyone denying this? Is supposedly the sane one.
As per that thread, i am not a friend of Turkey regime,a country which is renewong its empire and has more or less de facto full control of Germany and half of the footprint of its former empire.
But facts are both Turkey and Poland are feeding on the carcass of former western Europe , Poland with the active help of the current US deep state, Turkey with the blind eyes of the same.
It might be geopolitical,but that is a clear sign of economics to come.
Sadly, i am coming late to the party
This is the calendar Turkey etf performance, not exactly a basket case is it?View attachment 148141
Anyway, i hope this will help some here...

I think Erdodog ( the wanna be Sultan) has a grand vision to resurrect the Ottoman Empire like Putin has with the Russian Empire. There is an election in 2023 and because the Turkish economy has turned into excrement, he is trying to change tact and divert attention by threatening to invade and take the Greek Islands as a show of strength as a leader.
Then there is to continued occupation of Cyprus too but that is another topic