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ASX provides links to company reports but no financial data.
Google finance provides last 4 yrs of statements for US companies but not AUS companies.
I use the financial data from Morningstar. Most local libraries have free access to it.
I know Factset provides data, but is limited to institutional investors.
GuruFocus has 10yrs for financials for US companies for free, but Ocenia is available on a subscription basis. I might use it at some point because it helps visualize the numbers a bit better.
Not sure what Morningstar charges. Yes you can download the financial data spreadsheet from Morningstar and and chart it manually in excel. GuruFocus has graphs for every line item for all financial statements.
At the moment though, my approach is quite simple and manual. I'll give you a brief idea of my approach.
Most of the time I'm not really looking for opportunities, I just like studying different businesses, by various characteristics. I keep a watch list of businesses with different characteristics so I can recognise them immediately by various attributes.
For e.g. here are a few:
I usually start by glancing over their PL Statement, Cashflow Statement & Balance Sheet in Morningstar.
- Size (Market Cap): I will study companies with 100k to 1 mil in market cap (companies so small that almost no one looks at them because they're illiquid, but I'm simply trying to understand their business motive)
- Working Capital: Companies that operate on negative working capital (like Woolworths) can gain an edge in their supply chain management over their competitors.
- Takeover Targets: Takeover announcements @ AFR to try and understand the business characteristics (such as Profitability, Size, or Economic Moat) that make a good takeover target. This is also a good exercise for me to understand Valuation, and see if the predator is going to overpay for the target acquisition. If so, by how much, and with what (Debt, or mix of debt & predator's common stock, or cash, or a mix of these)?
- Changes in Common Stock issued: Companies that either issue additional stock, or engage in buybacks. Understanding changes in the capital shift of common stock helps me understand if the company is creating value for existing owners or if it's diluting value, or if it's stealing value from existing owners by issuing employee options at discount.
I then run over items from my checklist that ask the right questions about the business and try to answer them myself (for e.g. Who controls the Pricing Power in the game? What sort of moat does the business have, or is it likely to create one over time? Does it have to continually re-plough retained earnings into Capital Expenditures? etc.).
I turn to Google Finance to compare how their operating metrics stack up against their competitors.
I use various tools and websites to get basic info and then spend time sitting quietly thinking about the businesses myself.
And lastly, I continually read and learn. I read 10k reports from SEC fillings for US companies. (ASIC could take a lesson from SEC and be a bit strict with AUS companies in their fillings). AUS company reports are painful to read with pretty pictures and big bold letters. I'd much rather have the black & white reports from SEC - very informative and concise.
Not sure what Morningstar charges. Yes you can download the financial data spreadsheet from Morningstar and and chart it manually in excel. GuruFocus has graphs for every line item for all financial statements.
At the moment though, my approach is quite simple and manual. I'll give you a brief idea of my approach.
Most of the time I'm not really looking for opportunities, I just like studying different businesses, by various characteristics. I keep a watch list of businesses with different characteristics so I can recognise them immediately by various attributes.
For e.g. here are a few:
I usually start by glancing over their PL Statement, Cashflow Statement & Balance Sheet in Morningstar.
- Size (Market Cap): I will study companies with 100k to 1 mil in market cap (companies so small that almost no one looks at them because they're illiquid, but I'm simply trying to understand their business motive)
- Working Capital: Companies that operate on negative working capital (like Woolworths) can gain an edge in their supply chain management over their competitors.
- Takeover Targets: Takeover announcements @ AFR to try and understand the business characteristics (such as Profitability, Size, or Economic Moat) that make a good takeover target. This is also a good exercise for me to understand Valuation, and see if the predator is going to overpay for the target acquisition. If so, by how much, and with what (Debt, or mix of debt & predator's common stock, or cash, or a mix of these)?
- Changes in Common Stock issued: Companies that either issue additional stock, or engage in buybacks. Understanding changes in the capital shift of common stock helps me understand if the company is creating value for existing owners or if it's diluting value, or if it's stealing value from existing owners by issuing employee options at discount.
I then run over items from my checklist that ask the right questions about the business and try to answer them myself (for e.g. Who controls the Pricing Power in the game? What sort of moat does the business have, or is it likely to create one over time? Does it have to continually re-plough retained earnings into Capital Expenditures? etc.).
I turn to Google Finance to compare how their operating metrics stack up against their competitors.
I use various tools and websites to get basic info and then spend time sitting quietly thinking about the businesses myself.
And lastly, I continually read and learn. I read 10k reports from SEC fillings for US companies. (ASIC could take a lesson from SEC and be a bit strict with AUS companies in their fillings). AUS company reports are painful to read with pretty pictures and big bold letters. I'd much rather have the black & white reports from SEC - very informative and concise.
Risk comes from not knowing what you're doing." - Warren Buffett.
Value investing is not a paint-by-numbers exercise. Scepticism and judgement are always required. - Seth Klarman (Security Analysis: Sixth Edition, Foreword by Warren Buffett)
A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing. ― Oscar Wilde
The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But, unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do. For the investor, a too-high purchase price for the stock of an excellent company can undo the effects of a subsequent decade of favorable business developments.
Berkshire Hathaway Letters to Shareholders 1965-2013
From the letter dated March 3, 1983
Yes, my approach to Valuation is conservative and quite often market may never accept my offer price, but that's Ok. I can sit and watch hundreds of businesses go by without touching them, after-all I only need 1 good idea (or make 1 good decision) to allocate capital properly.
Yes, you make a good point about Net earnings (which should be more preferable) as opposed to Pre-Tax earnings. On a side note, Buffett bought See's Candy on a Pre-Tax estimate. He & Charlie were trying to figure out if there really was any Pricing potential present through it's brand, and sure enough they raise their price on the day before Christmas every year.
I never look at forecasts or analyst earning estimates. I find it best avoided at all times and substituted with my own modest degree of foresight (for which I assume full responsibility, whether wrong or right in outcome). I judge myself based on effort and process, not outcome.
Ah, the puzzling question - how do you know when to sell or get out?
Ideally I wouldn't want to sell if I had enough capital (> double digit millions), I'd simply keep buying these wonderful bargains and holding them for their true earning power (purchasing power of capital in excess of inflation).
But since I have very small sums I have to sell (usually when more than fully priced, or another opportunity comes along that allows me to repeat the process). I realize my selling approach is much imperfect (perhaps slightly amateurish) but I believe I will be able to shape it more thoroughly as my capital base grows.
Yeah, Cap IQ is out of limits for most of us that are flying solo. Initially though I used to think access to information like Cap IQ was crucially important. But the last year of experience has taught me that financial statements from Morningstar and Gurufocus is more than enough (as far as quantitative analysis goes). I don't need any more.
What's needed more is to develop the qualitative side, and none of the screeners or fancy tools help in that direction.
I like the IBIS world industry reports (free to read - via local library - I use victoria library), but their Company reports are what I'm really after (I'm really eager to read about private businesses like Visy, Linfox and the like).
The Company Reports cost a fortune.
Would anyone be keen on splitting subscription costs with me?
There's some other material that I would find quite valuable to read as part of my regular reading (AFR for example), so just wondering if there are any investors/readers on this forum that might want to share resources and split costs.
Also, if there's something you would like to read and share costs please mention it.
Also, on a final note, I'll be going to the Berkshire Hathaway AGM 2015 (The Woodstock for Capitalists
Is anyone else going, or would like to go - please be in touch.
Yeah, Cap IQ is out of limits for most of us that are flying solo. Initially though I used to think access to information like Cap IQ was crucially important. But the last year of experience has taught me that financial statements from Morningstar and Gurufocus is more than enough (as far as quantitative analysis goes). I don't need any more.
What's needed more is to develop the qualitative side, and none of the screeners or fancy tools help in that direction.
Is this what you're after?
Free from a university library account.
I think uni does allow non-student to sign up for their library access.
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