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I'm yet to see any fair criterium for assessing how they're doing it wrong.

Cherry picking bits where they report a Govt stuff up or bad polling doesn't do it for me
 
The same statements could be said about news corp.
I dont follow any of them, just follow the observations made on this forum.
Those who say the ABC isnt biased say news corp is and vice versa.
Which I suppose verifies, that both are.
 
The difference IMV is assertions of ABC bias is based on it being owned by the state which is the anathema of private enterprise devotees. So their narrative won't change until it's sold regardless of the on-air content.

Newscorp is a Conservative aligned political party masquerading as a media outlet with a history of bias and corruption so intense that it's getting hoisted by its own petard resulting in job losses all over the country as local journalism goes down the swanny.



It happens
 
I dont care who owns it, some say t he ABC is biased, I dont watch it, some say news or sky is biased I dont watch it.
But both sides say exactly the same, about the other.
So I guess just reading between the lines on asf, saves me a lot of angst.
With regard the ABC, the Labor Party is always saying how wonderfull it is, the coalition is always complaining.
With regard newscorp, the Labor party is always complaining about it.
So I guess there is some sort of balance.
 
Well I think it'll be a moot point eventually anyway. Newscorp will spiral into irrelevancy and probably go broke and the ABC will probably be sold off sometime after that.

The Guardian will then be bought by the Greens if Malcolm Turnbull takes over their leadership
 
And there will be peace and happiness at the bottom of the garden.
The problem is, the media is fixated on sensational news, that entails having opposing opinions.
The issue with that is, they have to guess what the majority of readers or viewers believe, and has been proven recently the majority aren't outspoken.
The ones that are outspoken fall into two groups, the left that hate capitalism, hate the U.S, hate fossil fuel, but in reality avail themselves of all it offers and enables them to hate it,
The far right, they just want to beat the crap out of those, that want to deprive them of their right to go to the pub and have a beano.
Then you have the rest, who are just trying to make ends meet and are wondering why there has to be so many idiots out there trying to upset the apple cart.
The problem at the moment is, the media is way out of step, of those who just want to get on with life.
The reason being, the media people are paid way too much money, to have any idea of what the rest are feeling so they pick a side.
Just my opinion.
 
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wayneL said:
There is nothing conservative about newscorp. They are a corporatist tabloid org that plays both sides
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Exactly, they just follow the market
See how they run with caricatural images of Abbots or follow on the anti Trump rants etc
If News ltd is right wing in their Australian site, then Stalin is a centrist
They do not care about opinion just the number of hits. So if the majority of people thinks one way, they will follow..
That is right wing for the guardians mobs......
Pathetic journalism i agree but no bias but money which i actually prefer to ABC agenda
And at least, i am not paying for it whereas the ABC...
Let ABC be News 24, and shows like landline, gardening Australia and bbc rediffusions : midsummers murders etc for this audience
 
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wayneL said:
There is nothing conservative about newscorp. They are a corporatist tabloid org that plays both sides
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Newscorp is fundamentally conservative and will barrack that way as long as they can, but if it looks like Labor is going to win they will switch sides then claim the credit later on.
 
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In my opinion the Murdochs have sandcastle syndrome.

Continuously building up just to tear it the hell down again. I see this election after election after election, in country after country.
 
wayneL said:
In my opinion the Murdochs have sandcastle syndrome.

Continuously building up just to tear it the hell down again. I see this election after election after election, in country after country.
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Yep
 
I think there is Chinese influence at the ABC.

They are publishing bleeding heart stories about China. ABC now knows more than ASIO/ASIS. What a joke...


Western Sydney University provided letter of 'support'
to ASIO for banned Chinese PhD Student
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Western Sydney University provided a character reference to ASIO for leading Chinese scholar and current WSU doctoral student Li Jianjun after the spy agency cancelled his student visa.

The university has also expressed support for Mr Li in a video message to Chinese students from Vice-Chancellor Barney Glover.

"The university is supporting the student in requesting the reconsideration of the decision to cancel the student visa."

The university says it doesn't know what evidence ASIO'S Director-General relied on when the agency assessed Mr Li as a possible security risk.



Thats because you don't have security clearances.

Meanwhile...


US cancels 1,000 China student visas, claiming ties to military
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State department has been revoking visas since 1 June after Trump order to tackle intellectual property theft

The US has revoked the visas of more than 1,000 Chinese students and researchers it said had ties to the Chinese military, accusing some of espionage, in the latest dispute between the rival superpowers.

China had been “abusing student visas to exploit American academia”, said Chad Wolf, acting secretary for the Department of Homeland Security, in a speech on Wednesday. “We are blocking visas for certain Chinese graduate students and researchers with ties to China’s military fusion strategy to prevent them from stealing and otherwise appropriating sensitive research.”

It follows a proclamation in late May from President Donald Trump that “certain graduate level and above Chinese nationals associated with entities in China” that support or work with the Chinese military, the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) would be blocked from entering the US. He said Chinese nationals studying in the US had stolen intellectual property and assisted the PLA.
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Mystery surrounds ouster of Chinese researchers
from Canadian laboratory
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Canadian researchers are reacting with puzzlement to the news that a “policy breach” has caused the nation’s only high-containment disease laboratory to bar a prominent Chinese Canadian virologist, her biologist husband, and a number of students from the facility.

On 5 July, officials at the National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) in Winnipeg, Canada, escorted Xiangguo Qiu, biologist Keding Cheng, and an unknown number of her students from the lab and revoked their access rights, according to Canadian media reports. The Public Health Agency of Canada, which operates the lab, confirmed it had referred an “administrative matter” matter to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, but said it would not provide additional details because of privacy concerns.

A number of observers have speculated that case involves concerns about the improper transfer of intellectual property to China. (All of the researchers involved are believed to be Asian.) But Frank Plummer, a former scientific director of NML who left in 2015, says the lab isn’t an obvious target for academic or industrial espionage. “There is nothing highly secret there, and all the work gets published in the open literature,” he says. “I don’t know what anyone would hope to gain by spying.”

The lab works in a wide range of biomedical fields. Qiu is known for helping develop ZMapp, a treatment for Ebola virus that was fast-tracked through development during the 2014–16 outbreak in West Africa. She has repeatedly been honored for her work on that project, including with a Governor General’s Innovation Award last year.

“While I was there [Qiu] was always highly regarded as a scientist,” says Plummer, adding that he was “shocked and puzzled” when he heard she was being investigated. “She maintained connections with China, but as far as I knew she was a regular Canadian scientist.”

Cheng, Qiu’s husband, also worked as a biologist at NML. And both researchers held adjunct faculty positions at the University of Manitoba in Winnipeg. It says it has terminated their positions and reassigned their students as a result of the investigation.

Neither Qiu nor Cheng could be reached for comment.​




This has been going on for years. Chinese stealing everything they can. Almost like a parasite.



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It's called reporting what's happening DB008. None of those articles are pro China. The fact the university state they don't know why is reported. That is not pro China, that's just telling the facts.

You won't see much of this from Newcorp as they have interests in China they don't want to upset.
And if you doubt that, show me where I am wrong, maybe the scales will fall off your eyes.

Example of the most recent (sucking up to) China article from Sky news follows:

Xi Jinping hands out medals while praising China’s COVID-19 response
08/09/2020|1min

Currently in China they’re handing out medals to those who were able to “successfully kill off the virus” according to Sky News host Paul Murray. “While you right now have the police state in Victoria, you have the curfew that the chief medical officer didn’t ask for, you have the premier pretending that the second wave isn’t really the fault of hotel quarantine,” Mr Murray said. “In China they’re handing out medals”. In the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, China’s President Xi Jinping handed medals out and praised the efforts of those involved in combatting the deadly virus, which has now claimed nearly 900,000 lives worldwide. “Medals in Beijing, curfew in Melbourne," Mr Murray said.

China accuses Australia of 'white terror' crackdown against Chinese journalists
10/09/2020|4min


China has accused Australia of “horrific persecution” and committing a “white terror” crackdown against Chinese journalists. In an article published in a mouthpiece for the Chinese government, the Global Times warned it was becoming “infuriated” by Australia’s “witch hunt campaign”. “The witch hunt campaign under the excuse of investigating the so-called Chinese infiltration, promoted by Australian security departments, is getting infuriating,” the mouthpiece said. “Australia's so-called freedom of the press and freedom of speech have become a complete joke.”

Why does Sky News make no pro Australian commentary??

Luckily we still have our state media.
 
SirRumpole said:
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In the absence of proof..... nope

About as credible as using a guardian article to say the ABC is political. And who reads the guardian anyway ?

“What I liked about Mrs Thatcher, never having met her, is that she revelled in dealing with adversity and she didn’t give in,”

They could have just as easily said "one of Collins political heroes is Hillary Clinton"

It would be just as accurate.
 
Interesting article in Macrobusiness, they are usually pretty left leaning, so an interesting take on the ABC from them.
I personally would prefer 'cancel Australia day altogether (it obviously offends people and causes divisiveness and incorporate it into new years day, new start and all that), ban the order of Australia medals (it just tells most average Australians they are a failure and should try harder), wean the ABC of public funding (it really is a dying medium and as just becoming a culture modelling agency) .

Shift Australia Day, ban Margaret Court, and shut radicalised ABC

Let’s shift Australia Day. It was only ever a marketing exercise and the symbolism of the date is all wrong in a modern multicultural nation. Margaret Court should not be given honours after she endorsed bigotry publicly. She has the right to speak out but must take responsibility for her views...
www.macrobusiness.com.au
 

I think I'd prefer to tell the ABC to stick to it's charter. Give the public news and information, education, investigative journalism, and behind the scenes analysis, rather than being a mouthpiece for every offended minority group.

And all the silly ads on the ABC these days are intrusive. Almost as bad as the commies.
 
I wouldn't mind a dollar for every time I've heard the ABC should stick to its charter, it has just become as you say a mouthpiece for minority groups with content written by university trained minority groups.
It is a bit like Kerry O'Brian the ex ABC journo, saying he wont accept the award because Margaret Court received one when she is divisive with her opinion, yet he as a reporter was as divisive as the best of them.
People and there opinions, which are usually underpinned by their own over inflated sense of self importance, what a hoot. ?
It is like Malcolm Turnbull and his ghost stories, now he has become head ghost. ?
 
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