2010 FOOTBALL World Cup

[Garpal Gumnut]

Lets not forget who won the war.

gg

 

[dutchie]

Lets not forget who won the war.

gg

Yes the German, Japanese and US economies did well after it.

 

[wayneL]

Yes the German, Japanese and US economies did well after it.

 

[dutchie]

Go the Oranje !

 

[pixel]

No one expected the Aussies to win this game
A draw would have been good
James

A draw would have been good - true, but you can't play for a draw if your opposition is so far ahead of you in skills and cohesion. If you have to gather your players from all over the world - and that's what Pim V had to do, in the absence of a National League - you can't expect a team that blends like the Germans do for instance; they play each week against each other and know each team mate's every move and position even before he's taken the first step. (The Bundesliga is also playing at a different skill level to our "A" League.)

Had Pim allowed our team to go flat out on the offense and counter whenever possible, we might have seen a tight game with a possible draw or a narrow defeat; merely trying to keep possession and push the ball sideways is not only boring to watch, but ineffective against an opponent that's a couple of grades above your own rank.

But then again, maybe he's playing a psychological game: Drag the players' spirit so far down that he can light some real fire in their bellies for the next two games. Lull the opposition into a false sense of security?
It worked for Sepp Herberger in 1954; not sure whether it'll still be feasible in this day and age...

 

[pixel]

Lets not forget who won the war.

gg

The War, and who "won", that's history. In the long run, nobody really "wins" a war.

But think for a moment about the years after: Who won the Peace?

 

[eddyeagle]

I didnt have high hopes for this tournament but last night's display was embarrassing to watch!

Our squad is rubbish. How can Craig Moore still be in the starting 11? Why is no new talent coming through? This team is basically the same team as 2006 but four years slower!

Also thought the team selection was rubbish. Is Josh Kennedy injured?

As for Cahill's red card - we have been totally stitched up there.

 

[McCoy Pauley]

I didnt have high hopes for this tournament but last night's display was embarrassing to watch!

Our squad is rubbish. How can Craig Moore still be in the starting 11? Why is no new talent coming through? This team is basically the same team as 2006 but four years slower!

Also thought the team selection was rubbish. Is Josh Kennedy injured?

As for Cahill's red card - we have been totally stitched up there.

To take your questions in order:

1) We have Pim Verbeek and "Arnie" as head coach and assistant coach. They are absolutely woeful at bringing young players through into the national set-up. We're holding on to the last remnants of the "golden generation" (Kewell, Bresc, Emmo, Chippers, Schwarzer) simply because there is nobody coming up behind them to take their places.

2) The team selection was farcical. It was effectively a change of formation with no strikers selected. Three holding midfielders and no width on the pitch, allowing the Germans to send in crosses at will. Our creaking defence had no chance against the more mobile German attackers. Kennedy is no world-beater, but he wasn't injured - simply benched. Pim probably had no intention of throwing on a Kewell or a Kennedy when we went 2-0 down.

Only 180 minutes of game time before we're shot of Pim. Just because he's Dutch doesn't make him any good.

 

[Tink]

Switzerland beat Spain, that was a surprise.

J&M - I dont agree in holding back players like Kewell because we never expected to win against Germany. We should be going in expecting to win regardless.

Why hold back players, for what? If we dont get through this stage, they wont be playing at all.

I havent seen any other teams holding back their best players.

Just my opinion.

Are we all enjoying the games? I am

 

[J&M]

I like you don't agree with holding back players

But Kewell has played about 20 Min's of football this year
and the Germans would have gone for him big time
As that game was an almost no win I can understand holding him back
having said that he should have played at least one striker Kennedy
to take the pressure off our defence

The tackle by Cahill was a yellow never a red so we will wait and see if he is banned for 1 or 2 games

We cant loose anymore games a draw and a win may be enough to get us into the next round

Spain loosing was a major upset



James

 

[Bushman]

Switzerland beat Spain, that was a surprise.

OMFG I cannot believe that result. I watched the first 30mins and Spain were stroking it around the ground at will. At one point, possession was 77% to Spain as the Swiss (and that canny old fax Hirzfeld) put nine behind the ball.

So I went to bed rest assured that Spain was smashing them and wake up to a 0-1 pig swill result. Maybe it is the Jabulani at play? Or maybe just the Spaniards under achieving at yet another World Cup.

Swiss football = pigs swill!

 

[spooly74]

Swiss football = pigs swill

Agreed, but I've seen the Swiss pull these results out of their back pocket for years in Euro Group stages.
And at 10/1 in a two horse race, the odds were just too good to pass up.
Lovely Jubley


BTW, anyone else been driven spare by that ******* horn?

 

[professor_frink]

Agreed, but I've seen the Swiss pull these results out of their back pocket for years in Euro Group stages.
And at 10/1 in a two horse race, the odds were just too good to pass up.
Lovely Jubley


BTW, anyone else been driven spare by that ******* horn?

The mute button takes care of the horns quite nicely.

Not having another world cup in Africa would also be a good long term solution to them!

 

[dutchie]

Not having another world cup in Africa would also be a good long term solution to them!

I'll drink to that!

 

[wayneL]

@Wayne - you aren't...supporting....the All Whites are you? :

Doesn't seem a bad option at the moment after the Shockeroos game with Germany.

The Azzurri might change that though.

 

[GumbyLearner]

Hot wymyn in tight Grog skirts deemed "too loud" for World Cup.
What will they do next? Ban vuvuzelas?

World Cup 2010: Police arrest women in Dutch orange dresses

Thirty six women who attended a Fifa World Cup match dressed in Dutch orange mini-dresses were detained by police over claims they were advertising for an unofficial beer company.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ice-arrest-women-in-Dutch-orange-dresses.html

 

[Timmy]

Hot wymyn in tight Grog skirts deemed "too loud" for World Cup.

Are they why everyone seems to have the horn?

ps. How to Silence Vuvuzela Horns in World Cup Broadcasts

Here's how to filter the vuvuzela buzz from your World Cup broadcasts.

http://lifehacker.com/5564085/how-to-silence-vuvuzela-horns-with-an-eq-filter

Too complicated for me, but might help someone.

 

[DB008]

Argentina hammered S Korea. 4-1. 1 own goal, still a good win.

Spain just couldn't put the ball into the back of the net last night. Torres came on, but way too late. Shaky ground they're on. They have to win their next match to get out of their group stage.

Holland, looked ok, but nothing special.

Germany looked pretty good. Apparently, they have been using the new ball in the Bundesliga for the past 4 months. l'm not making any excuses for Australia with that comment. Australia's squad is just too old IMO. They were outclassed in every angle the other day. Speed Skill Tactics

 

[GumbyLearner]

Are they why everyone seems to have the horn?

Yeah youse guys who are exported don't understand.

I make enough and youse don't. Now sing the anfum!

Kewell fires up under pressure
GREG BAUM
June 18, 2010

ALL AROUND Ruimsig stadium, controlled grass fires burned, filling the air with smoke and as dusk fell, turning the sky ruddy. It was a suitably livid backdrop. In the stadium, there was another blaze, in the hearts and minds of the Socceroos and their adjutants. They are a team feeling the heat and on Wednesday, radiating it.

http://www.theage.com.au/world-cup-...ressure-20100617-yjw4.html?rand=1276779564078

In a makeshift media corral mocked up out of hurdles in a groundsman's garage, Harry Kewell had a question before anyone could ask him one. ''Where's Mike Cockerill?'' he demanded to know. Cockerill, the Herald's chief football writer, had written a trenchant column that morning, saying the time when Kewell might have saved Australia was gone, and that he was now more preoccupied with saving his own career. ''Why's he making these accusations?'' Kewell asked. ''Does anyone have answers for me?'' Cockerill, properly, was at a game.

Kewell did not warm up with the other substitutes before Australia's crushing defeat by Germany in Durban, and was not called on in the match. His voice rung through with exasperation, Kewell said on Wednesday he had been ready to play that night, but had to abide by coach Pim Verbeek's decision, that he was good to start against Ghana on Saturday (midnight AEST), but again was in the hands of the coach, whose judgment he said he trusted. He denied reports of a fermenting mutiny.

''I fully support and am behind him,'' he said. ''He's the boss at the end of the day, like anyone else who's got bosses. You do what your boss says. It's a shame people don't get it in their thick heads: it's his rules. You follow them.''

This is football's oddly feudal protocol, that the coach's word is final and no correspondence is entered into. It means he gets the credit, but also the blame, and sooner or later, the chop. But in Australia's predicament, and considering Kewell's standing, it is hard to believe that there was no consultation. Kewell said he had not warmed up with the other substitutes, not because he played by different rules, but because that was his instruction, and like the coach's, was not to be doubted. ''I was told by my physio and trainer specifically not to do it,'' he said. ''I had to do my own preparation. There's no rift.''

But there is testiness. At length, a media minder began to shepherd Kewell away, only for him to double back to deal with the unfinished business of another question. Twice, Kewell misguidedly attacked media. ''Youse are all s'posed to be on our team. And it's a shame youse are all having a go at us,'' he said. ''Youse are all s'posed to be here supporting us, making us feel good, and making us go out there and do our country proud.''

 

[Tink]

I am wondering about this new ball Dannyboy, they all seem to be having problems with it.

I dont believe Australia was too old, they need different tactics.
I still say bring in Bresciano.

Cahill has ended up with a one week ban, so we will see what changes he makes now with Ghana