US Election - Where Do You Stand?

[SirRumpole]

I agree, both are terrible for POTUS

I miss Bernie!

I agree that things need a shaking, but Trump just doesn't have the character for the job. Hillary IS the establishment.....

Yes, Bernie would have shaken things up , I reckon he would have been good. But a Lefty in the US is very unlikely to be elected. When was the last one ?

 

[Logique]

Here we go.

'Trump will still win,' says professor who's predicted 30 years of US elections - 29 October
Peter W. Stevenson - http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-elec...30-years-of-us-elections-20161028-gsdjf1.html

Last month, the man who's tried to turn vote prediction into a science predicted a Donald Trump win.

Allan J. Lichtman, distinguished professor of history at American University, said the Democrats would not be able to hold on to the White House...So plenty has changed. But one thing hasn't: Lichtman, author of Predicting the Next President: The Keys to the White House 2016, is sticking with his prediction of a Trump victory..

.. His system has correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in every US presidential election since 1984...

 

[McLovin]

There's a long-shot, although very interesting scenario, that might come into play. In Utah Evan McMullin is an outside chance of winning that state. Were he to win, and in doing so preventing Clinton or Trump from claiming an outright majority (270) at the Electoral College then the three candidates with the highest EC votes go to the House of Representatives were each state delegation is given a single vote for president (the Senate does the same with the top two VP candidates). It is possible in such a scenario that because of how divisive both candidates are, McMullin becomes the compromise, for whichever party manages to secure their own VP in the Senate, and thus becomes the President.

Very outside chance of this actually happening, given Clinton still has a sizeable lead in the polls and McMullin is only rated an outside chance of winning Utah. If it did pan out then the Senate would likely have voted on a VP long before the House, and on inauguration day the VP would be sworn in as President.

 

[Tisme]

Enjoy:

 

[Logique]

As the Swedes say, ..'sitta i en rävsax', "sitting in a fox trap", trouble in both directions

 

[wayneL]

I have prepared my post us election statement already.

"What were the US population thinking this is a disaster for America and the world"

I have released it early because it won't matter who wins. The Statement will apply for either.

 

[SirRumpole]

I have prepared my post us election statement already.

"What were the US population thinking this is a disaster for America and the world"

I have released it early because it won't matter who wins. The Statement will apply for either.

Funny how Hilary is seen as a captive of Wall Street and the corporations when most of this forum are stock market and corporate apologists, but still hate Hilary.

So what is she, a corporate slave or a die hard Lefty ?

 

[basilio]

Very interesting Republican perspective on the fallout from this election regardless of who wins.

Well worth a read.

Is There Life After Trump?
[Peter Wehner]

Peter Wehner NOV. 5, 2016


With only hours left before Election Day, here’s the painful, self-evident truth facing lifelong Republicans like me: The 2016 presidential campaign has revealed dark and disturbing things about not only Donald J. Trump but also the party that nominated him.

Self-renewal starts — but doesn’t end — with self-examination.

The forces that propelled Mr. Trump’s rise need to be confronted and defeated. It won’t be easy, given that tens of millions of Americans will vote for him and believe deeply in him. But if these forces are not defeated, what happened this year will be replicated in one form or another, and the Republican Party will continue to inflict great harm on our republic.

If Mr. Trump loses the presidential race, as I believe is likely but hardly a sure thing, it will not be enough for Republicans to excuse or ignore his candidacy. It could never have happened unless things had gone terribly awry in the Republican Party. Its political and moral recovery requires Republicans to reverse three destructive trends that have emerged over the last decade.

Peter Wehner, a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, served in the last three Republican administrations and is a contributing opinion writer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/o...-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

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The other articles Peter Wehner as written also offer food for thought.

https://eppc.org/publications/repub...ture-of-the-party-should-ask-these-questions/

 

[Tisme]

Very interesting Republican perspective on the fallout from this election regardless of who wins.

Well worth a read.



Peter Wehner, a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, served in the last three Republican administrations and is a contributing opinion writer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/o...-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

______________________________________________

The other articles Peter Wehner as written also offer food for thought.

https://eppc.org/publications/repub...ture-of-the-party-should-ask-these-questions/

He's delusional in the face of the awful truth about his life choices. Like LNP voters have been for a few years now

 

[qldfrog]

So what is she, a corporate slave or a die hard Lefty ?

Is there is anything liberal in her, tell me.In the 70's she would have been napalming vietnam...
As for freedom democraty the usual basics....

 

[McLovin]

Here's the final Five Thirty Eight prediction. Let's see how this goes. I think Clinton will win Florida, maybe not NC. Trump needs win both and then MI or PA to have any chance. I don't think Trump has much of a chance.

 

[Tisme]

Here's the final Five Thirty Eight prediction. Let's see how this goes. I think Clinton will win Florida, maybe not NC. Trump needs win both and then MI or PA to have any chance. I don't think Trump has much of a chance.

I have a feeling this is going to be a watershed moment.

The republican core must be really happy they didn't reign in the Tea Party those few years ago.

 

[McLovin]

I have a feeling this is going to be a watershed moment.

The republican core must be really happy they didn't reign in the Tea Party those few years ago.

Yep. The GOP created Trump. They have in the process destroyed their own party. They let themselves sign up to the Birther Bullsh!t where any crackpot idea gets an airing.

Apparently Latino voters in Florida are up 100% on 2012. If that's the case the election is already over.

 

[Tisme]

Funny how Hilary is seen as a captive of Wall Street and the corporations when most of this forum are stock market and corporate apologists, but still hate Hilary.

So what is she, a corporate slave or a die hard Lefty ?

She's a Clinton... they don't have political constraints nor conscience.

 

[McLovin]

Clinton has narrow <1% lead in Florida. Most of her votes are urban though so she started behind and her lead is growing. It's about 70% counted. She is also ahead in Ohio by ~5%, but that's pretty early days in the count. She's ahead in North Carolina with about half the vote counted.

 

[luutzu]

She's a Clinton... they don't have political constraints nor conscience.

Speaking of which, one of the emails released by WikiLeak show a former Clinton aide to John Podesta about Chelsea still complaining while spending the Foundation's money on her wedding, travels etc.

Her mum would ask "who does that" if she weren't the one doing it.

 

[moXJO]

Speaking of which, one of the emails released by WikiLeak show a former Clinton aide to John Podesta about Chelsea still complaining while spending the Foundation's money on her wedding, travels etc.

Her mum would ask "who does that" if she weren't the one doing it.

Apparently Rudd and gillard "bribed" a Clinton foundation subsidiary with about $300 million of tax payer money. Carbon capture or something. Bill C praised Rudd in a speech he gave not long after the initial funding.
Anyone else know the story?

 

[pettlepop]

I think some of us are already moving to Canada
[video]https://youtube.com/watch?v=7nz-F4kExdY[/video]

 

[qldfrog]

For those who care to listen, nice victory speech just listened direct on TV (so was not "selectively chosen by your media of the day"http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/9/13569124/donald-trump-wins-2016-presidential-election-victory-speech-transcript

 

[luutzu]

Apparently Rudd and gillard "bribed" a Clinton foundation subsidiary with about $300 million of tax payer money. Carbon capture or something. Bill C praised Rudd in a speech he gave not long after the initial funding.
Anyone else know the story?

Don't know much about that. But I guess the Clintons are ones to ask "what have you done for me lately".

So Rudd might have thought he's cool with Bill and Hill with that bribe, but our BHP and RIO and Gina can also write cheques and wrote a few (I am totally guessing this ) when Rudd thought to put a super profit tax on the miners to destroy jobs.