"I dont drink more than 2-3 glasses of water a day"
You body needs to be hydrated to effectively burn body fat, deyhdration will also lower the body's metabolism
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"I dont drink more than 2-3 glasses of water a day"
You body needs to be hydrated to effectively burn body fat, deyhdration will also lower the body's metabolism
coffee is a diuretic it bleeds you of water much like a falling share bleeds you of capital with out a stop loss lol, alcohol cmon were talking about weight loss here.
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I've had a fair bit of success with the bodytrim system, it's a low carb high protein diet with low impact walking for exercise.
It's more like a lifestyle change than a crash diet, the guy who created it is a character but very motivated in helping people.
They offer a free trial www.bodytrim.com.au
It's more like a lifestyle change than a crash diet, the guy who created it is a character but very motivated in helping people.
They offer a free trial www.bodytrim.com.au
its the lifestyle I am used to....and needing to lose between 5-10 kg...its not too big a deal
I dont do anything to disrupt my life too much...was basically a tee totaller most of my life....thought about giving up the grog....its just easy to have a couple of glasses...and I get a good nights sleep....de stress factor...
I dont do anything to disrupt my life too much...was basically a tee totaller most of my life....thought about giving up the grog....its just easy to have a couple of glasses...and I get a good nights sleep....de stress factor...
Buy a protein powder matey, you will save heaps of money and you can add fibre and good slow burning carbs to make it into a shake/breakfast.
Most of those systems have sugars that you don't need in them and are WAY overpriced
Just looked at it, it basically is a protein powder and seems reasonably priced. I thought it was one of those Tony Ferguson optifast garbage stuff
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No it's not a protein powder diet, it a real food protein diet you need to watch his DVD to get a better understanding but basically don't eat potatoes, rice, pasta, sugar, bread, fruit, but eat lean meat, fish with lotsa veggies/salad and have 3 meals and 3 snacks per day.
The theory is as I understand it the low carb (sugar) high protein intake causes the body to not produce high amounts of insulin which allows the body to just burn the fat as when there is a high amount of insulin in the body the fat is stored.
I also walk the mongrel Rottweiler 3 times a week for about 45mins
I basically do this Monday to Friday and as is recommended in the diet plan, you have a "free" day (I have 2 Sat & Sun) where you can eat what you like (carbs) to wake up your metabolism, the Monday is normally a strict no carb day for me.
The first 10 kg fell off, the next 5 came off fairly quick and now I'm losing .5 to 1kg a week with no real pain, my target is to lose a total of 25kg which I have accumulated after I stopped smoking a few years ago.
The biggest thing to this diet being successful is prior planning and prepare your food the day before, although the diet is probably expensive due to the amount of protein you need, the quality of life makes it worth it.
Get on the P90X, i find it to be the most balanced of all training programs (and i played soccer for all my life and did it professionally for a while). It gives you endurance, agility, power, strength, and flexibility.
http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitness_programs/p90x.do?code=P90XDOTCOM
P.S i dont follow the diet plan but if you want the best results then of course thats the best way. From what i can see the diet isnt about less food but the types of food you consume. Its a whole program thow and i do it from home.
http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitness_programs/p90x.do?code=P90XDOTCOM
P.S i dont follow the diet plan but if you want the best results then of course thats the best way. From what i can see the diet isnt about less food but the types of food you consume. Its a whole program thow and i do it from home.
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'Starting Strength' By Mark Rippetoe and Lon Kilgore is a great place to start for fat loss...
There are high seed torrents out there...
Especially for guys, but defiantly for girls as well, the best way to lose weight is to pick up something heavy, and lift it over your head...
Diet is also very important... Complex carbs, protein, and vitamins (All from food, **** the supplements off)
Give white bread, cheesecake and battered savs a miss...
There are high seed torrents out there...
Especially for guys, but defiantly for girls as well, the best way to lose weight is to pick up something heavy, and lift it over your head...
Diet is also very important... Complex carbs, protein, and vitamins (All from food, **** the supplements off)
Give white bread, cheesecake and battered savs a miss...
Julia
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Kincella, coffee and alcohol both have a diuretic effect(i.e. increased passing of fluids in the urine) so unless you are also drinking at least a litre a day of water, you will be risking becoming dehydrated. Chronic dehydration will damage your kidney function.
You need a reasonable amount of water for the kidneys to function properly.
In even moderate dehydration the kidneys have a very sensitive mechanism which detects insufficient fluid, and they will then 'instruct' the body to release aldosterone, which promotes the reabsorption of sodium, thus retaining fluid in the cells. This may be why you are experiencing a bloated sensation.
If you limit the coffee and alcohol and drink more water, the aldosterone mechanism won't be activated and your body will not be so likely to retain fluid. Carbohydrate will also encourage fluid retention. This is why people who have previously consumed a lot of carbs will lose a considerable amount of weight if cutting out the carbs and having high protein, raw juices and vegetable diet. The apparent weight loss is largely fluid.
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WARNING: This first post is more of a rant, but does have information relevant to weight loss. I'll go more into weight loss in my next post.
There are many, many ways to lose weight. I bet Mr Burns would lose weight if he follows what Kennas posted above. However such immediate radical changes are not sustainable over the long term. Your average joe would make it half way through and quit. Even if Mr Burns is strong willed and makes it through the month, it is not realistic to expect he can continue eating like this everyday, especially when you consider he has told us how much he loves his food and alcohol.
I am not surprised by this statement, considering some the crap that is being taught these days... Even if Mr Burns has fantastic genetics, I guarantee Mr Burns will not gain large amounts of muscle mass simply by running – especially with the diet you have posted above! When I was a Personal Trainer I often was told by female clients: “I don’t want to do weights because I don’t want to get too big”. What people dont understand is that to gain serious muscle you have to train seriously hard in a manner which will encourage growth, and eat seriously big. I am sure Pappon can back me up on that one.
What is worse is that many "academics" today see weights as the enemy. It it not necessary to train with weights to lose weight, but it can help too. When done correctly, weight training is not just anaerobic training, it is an aerobic too. As Mr Burns stated earlier, he still loves his food. The more lean muscle mass you have, the more calories your body will burn. If he had extra lean muscle mass, he would be able to eat more without gaining fat. Weight training is also very good for your posture and joints, when done correctly. Also, what is the point of losing weight, just to have flabby un-toned arms?
What on earth makes you think I’ll ever stop eating well? Eating healthy is very important to me, even if I decided to give up the weights. You don’t need to train like a bodybuilder to eat healthy. And what makes you think I’ll give up the weights? There are 60+ year old bodybuilders that still compete, and look fantastic. They have lasted as long as they have in bodybuilding by eating well and training safely. I’m not saying I’ll still be bodybuilding at that age (who knows, I might!), but I bet eating healthy will always be a big part of my life. The reason I eat so much is due to my training. There is no way I could 4500 calories a day (like I am at the moment) if I was not training. If I stopped training, I would eat significantly less. I would also lose a fair amount of my muscle mass due to my genetics. I am an ectomorph (struggle to gain weight), however my body is very affective at losing weight (which is great for me when I am dieting for a comp).
The "academics" in the fitness world seem to think weight training is the devil. It is these same academics who come up with the seemingly popular BMI (body mass index), which is a simple math equation based on your height to weight ratio that tells you if you are over weight or not. They will tell you it works on the vast majority of the population, with the exception athletes who carry large amounts of muscle. Damn straight it doesn't - it says that I am obese. Yet I am 12% bodyfat. However, what about people who have a thicker bone structure than others? (eg Pacific Islanders, or people with certain European backgrounds) They too may have very little bodyfat but because of their thick bone structure will be put in the overweight or obese categories. If these people are carrying just the slightest amount too much fat, it can send them deep into the obese category, when they may only just miss the healthy BMI range if they had an average built frame. What about people with small bone structures? Such as petite people, or the elderly? (elderly tend to have a lot less bone mass) Their frames are much smaller. Which means they can carry MORE bodyfat, without falling into the overweight category.
I remember having this debate with the tutor on my Personal Training course a few years ago. They could not answer me and I kept pushing the subject, so I went to one of the people who played a role in writing the course at the Australian Institute of Fitness. I asked why is it that only athletes with large amounts of muscle mass are excluded from the BMI, when there are so many other areas of the population that the BMI also fails (like I mentioned above). He simply repeatedly told me that the data they had collected, the BMI is accurate for the majority of the population. Did not answer my question at all. I felt like asking if he had printed his PhD off the internet, but I knew that would not help me in finding out any answers.
I then said "All statistics suggest that obesity is the number one factor when it comes to heart and cardiovascular related disease". He said "correct". I then showed him a report from the UK (which had collected data from thousands of people). I said "Well these statistics show that less than half the people in the UK that have heart or cardiovascular related disease are overweight or obese according to their BMI." The report also showed that a more accurate way of finding out if someone was obese was by calculating their hip to waist ratio. He had no answer, and simply regurgitated the crap he fed me earlier. These people are designing courses based on out information that is incorrect, and they don't even care. It is of no surprise that Australia is now the fattest nation on Earth.
There are many, many ways to lose weight. I bet Mr Burns would lose weight if he follows what Kennas posted above. However such immediate radical changes are not sustainable over the long term. Your average joe would make it half way through and quit. Even if Mr Burns is strong willed and makes it through the month, it is not realistic to expect he can continue eating like this everyday, especially when you consider he has told us how much he loves his food and alcohol.
I am not surprised by this statement, considering some the crap that is being taught these days... Even if Mr Burns has fantastic genetics, I guarantee Mr Burns will not gain large amounts of muscle mass simply by running – especially with the diet you have posted above! When I was a Personal Trainer I often was told by female clients: “I don’t want to do weights because I don’t want to get too big”. What people dont understand is that to gain serious muscle you have to train seriously hard in a manner which will encourage growth, and eat seriously big. I am sure Pappon can back me up on that one.
What is worse is that many "academics" today see weights as the enemy. It it not necessary to train with weights to lose weight, but it can help too. When done correctly, weight training is not just anaerobic training, it is an aerobic too. As Mr Burns stated earlier, he still loves his food. The more lean muscle mass you have, the more calories your body will burn. If he had extra lean muscle mass, he would be able to eat more without gaining fat. Weight training is also very good for your posture and joints, when done correctly. Also, what is the point of losing weight, just to have flabby un-toned arms?
What on earth makes you think I’ll ever stop eating well? Eating healthy is very important to me, even if I decided to give up the weights. You don’t need to train like a bodybuilder to eat healthy. And what makes you think I’ll give up the weights? There are 60+ year old bodybuilders that still compete, and look fantastic. They have lasted as long as they have in bodybuilding by eating well and training safely. I’m not saying I’ll still be bodybuilding at that age (who knows, I might!), but I bet eating healthy will always be a big part of my life. The reason I eat so much is due to my training. There is no way I could 4500 calories a day (like I am at the moment) if I was not training. If I stopped training, I would eat significantly less. I would also lose a fair amount of my muscle mass due to my genetics. I am an ectomorph (struggle to gain weight), however my body is very affective at losing weight (which is great for me when I am dieting for a comp).
The "academics" in the fitness world seem to think weight training is the devil. It is these same academics who come up with the seemingly popular BMI (body mass index), which is a simple math equation based on your height to weight ratio that tells you if you are over weight or not. They will tell you it works on the vast majority of the population, with the exception athletes who carry large amounts of muscle. Damn straight it doesn't - it says that I am obese. Yet I am 12% bodyfat. However, what about people who have a thicker bone structure than others? (eg Pacific Islanders, or people with certain European backgrounds) They too may have very little bodyfat but because of their thick bone structure will be put in the overweight or obese categories. If these people are carrying just the slightest amount too much fat, it can send them deep into the obese category, when they may only just miss the healthy BMI range if they had an average built frame. What about people with small bone structures? Such as petite people, or the elderly? (elderly tend to have a lot less bone mass) Their frames are much smaller. Which means they can carry MORE bodyfat, without falling into the overweight category.
I remember having this debate with the tutor on my Personal Training course a few years ago. They could not answer me and I kept pushing the subject, so I went to one of the people who played a role in writing the course at the Australian Institute of Fitness. I asked why is it that only athletes with large amounts of muscle mass are excluded from the BMI, when there are so many other areas of the population that the BMI also fails (like I mentioned above). He simply repeatedly told me that the data they had collected, the BMI is accurate for the majority of the population. Did not answer my question at all. I felt like asking if he had printed his PhD off the internet, but I knew that would not help me in finding out any answers.
I then said "All statistics suggest that obesity is the number one factor when it comes to heart and cardiovascular related disease". He said "correct". I then showed him a report from the UK (which had collected data from thousands of people). I said "Well these statistics show that less than half the people in the UK that have heart or cardiovascular related disease are overweight or obese according to their BMI." The report also showed that a more accurate way of finding out if someone was obese was by calculating their hip to waist ratio. He had no answer, and simply regurgitated the crap he fed me earlier. These people are designing courses based on out information that is incorrect, and they don't even care. It is of no surprise that Australia is now the fattest nation on Earth.
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Weight Loss Help.
Not that it holds much weight (pardon the pun), but I am a qualified Gym Instructor and Personal Trainer. I no longer do it for a living. I have learnt a the majority of my training and nutritional knowledge through my bodybuilding experiences. Many of these principles can be used for ANYONE who wishes to gain muscle, lose weight, training for a specific sport, or recovering from an injury. My partner is also a qualified naturopath (no longer practices), and health/fitness plays a very large role in our lives.
Mr Burns, it is difficult to tell by your post how serious you are about losing the weight (you must be somewhat serious for making the post), or how committed you are willing to be to lose the weight. This plays a huge factor, and I briefly touched on it when replying to Kennas posts. As a Personal Trainer I need to understand the commitment and willpower of the client. If I change things too much too early for someone is doesn't have a strong willpower, they will simply give up. If I only make baby changes to someone who is 100% dedicated and will do anything it takes, they will be unmotivated by slow results and also give up. This is even more important when you are doing your weight journey alone, as Mr Burns seems to be - as you have very little external motivation.
There are many different types of diets - Atkins, cyclic carb, high protein, low fat, low carb, and many others - like some that have already been stated in this thread. I will not recommend a particular diet, unless you really want me to. There is no "one fits all" answer, apart from the basic rule that calories consumed must be less than calories expended (and even that does not work for everybody, which I will go into later). The sad reality is, most people already know what foods to eat and what to do to lose the majority of the weight they are trying to lose. They simply lack the motivation. My aim is to not only help people lose or gain weight, but to help them sustain it once they have reached their goal.
Knowledge is power.
Whether its weight loss or weight gain, diet is far more more important than your training. And knowledge of food is just as important as eating it. Understanding the four macro nutrients (protein, carbs, fat, alcohol), what they do in our bodies is very important, and how many calories each contains. Carbs can be broken down into low and high GI (glycemic index). Fats can be split into saturated and non-saturated, and can be further broken down into transaturated, non-transaturated, polyunsaturated, and monounsaturated. Learn how to understand food labels and read them at the supermarket.
The more you understand nutrition, the better prepared you will be to acheiving your weight loss (or gain) goals. Mr Burns this is particularly important to you. You said you love your food and alcohol. Once you have lost your goal 10KG, and have a better understanding of how food works, you will be able to make room in your diet for your "treat" foods and alcohol - and still keep your new slim physique. This is exactly what is needed to help somebody like you to keep the weight off. Being able to sustain this as a lifestyle change is crucial - then you will never need to "diet" again.
Calories consumed VS Calories expended.
Calories consumed can be calculated. Calories expended is how much energy we burn throughout the day. If we eat more calories than expend, you will gain weight. If you eat less than you expend, you will lose weight. A physically active person can eat more calories than a sedentry person and still lose weight, as long as they are consuming less than they expend. So if you are a food (or alcohol) lover, its time to get physical and start burning those calories!
Diet (calories consumed) is the most important factor when it comes to losing weight. You can get away with little to no training at all, and still lose weight - if you plan your diet correctly. I do not know why anybody would not want to exercise, but you can still lose weight without it.
Doing everything right but still not losing weight
If you have truly taken the time to understand nutrition and training and are still not seeing any results, I suggest you see an experienced Personal Trainer, who has proven results. If then you are still not losing weight, then there could have thyroid or hormonal problems. These problems are used as an excuse by many, but in reality only account for about 5% of all overweight people. All GP's can do blood tests, but many GP's do not understand the full range of tests that are required. And the blood tests they suggest may not show the full picture. For example, if you told a GP you had weight loss issues and believe it may be thyroid or hormone related, they would ask for TSH for thyroid and testosterone count. These can come back fine, suggesting you do not have a problem - which may not be the case. GP's generally do not ask for RT3 count for thyroid, or LH/FSH count for testosterone - which can give a more in depth perspective of what is going on. You are better off seeing a specialist such as an Endocrinologist.
Anyway, I hope the information I have provided is of some use Mr Burns. Remember "Knowledge is power". No one expects you to be super strict or healthy every single day. When armed with knowledge, you can be a fit, healthy Mr Burns and still enjoy your food and alcohol.
Not that it holds much weight (pardon the pun), but I am a qualified Gym Instructor and Personal Trainer. I no longer do it for a living. I have learnt a the majority of my training and nutritional knowledge through my bodybuilding experiences. Many of these principles can be used for ANYONE who wishes to gain muscle, lose weight, training for a specific sport, or recovering from an injury. My partner is also a qualified naturopath (no longer practices), and health/fitness plays a very large role in our lives.
Mr Burns, it is difficult to tell by your post how serious you are about losing the weight (you must be somewhat serious for making the post), or how committed you are willing to be to lose the weight. This plays a huge factor, and I briefly touched on it when replying to Kennas posts. As a Personal Trainer I need to understand the commitment and willpower of the client. If I change things too much too early for someone is doesn't have a strong willpower, they will simply give up. If I only make baby changes to someone who is 100% dedicated and will do anything it takes, they will be unmotivated by slow results and also give up. This is even more important when you are doing your weight journey alone, as Mr Burns seems to be - as you have very little external motivation.
There are many different types of diets - Atkins, cyclic carb, high protein, low fat, low carb, and many others - like some that have already been stated in this thread. I will not recommend a particular diet, unless you really want me to. There is no "one fits all" answer, apart from the basic rule that calories consumed must be less than calories expended (and even that does not work for everybody, which I will go into later). The sad reality is, most people already know what foods to eat and what to do to lose the majority of the weight they are trying to lose. They simply lack the motivation. My aim is to not only help people lose or gain weight, but to help them sustain it once they have reached their goal.
Knowledge is power.
Whether its weight loss or weight gain, diet is far more more important than your training. And knowledge of food is just as important as eating it. Understanding the four macro nutrients (protein, carbs, fat, alcohol), what they do in our bodies is very important, and how many calories each contains. Carbs can be broken down into low and high GI (glycemic index). Fats can be split into saturated and non-saturated, and can be further broken down into transaturated, non-transaturated, polyunsaturated, and monounsaturated. Learn how to understand food labels and read them at the supermarket.
The more you understand nutrition, the better prepared you will be to acheiving your weight loss (or gain) goals. Mr Burns this is particularly important to you. You said you love your food and alcohol. Once you have lost your goal 10KG, and have a better understanding of how food works, you will be able to make room in your diet for your "treat" foods and alcohol - and still keep your new slim physique. This is exactly what is needed to help somebody like you to keep the weight off. Being able to sustain this as a lifestyle change is crucial - then you will never need to "diet" again.
Calories consumed VS Calories expended.
Calories consumed can be calculated. Calories expended is how much energy we burn throughout the day. If we eat more calories than expend, you will gain weight. If you eat less than you expend, you will lose weight. A physically active person can eat more calories than a sedentry person and still lose weight, as long as they are consuming less than they expend. So if you are a food (or alcohol) lover, its time to get physical and start burning those calories!
Diet (calories consumed) is the most important factor when it comes to losing weight. You can get away with little to no training at all, and still lose weight - if you plan your diet correctly. I do not know why anybody would not want to exercise, but you can still lose weight without it.
Doing everything right but still not losing weight
If you have truly taken the time to understand nutrition and training and are still not seeing any results, I suggest you see an experienced Personal Trainer, who has proven results. If then you are still not losing weight, then there could have thyroid or hormonal problems. These problems are used as an excuse by many, but in reality only account for about 5% of all overweight people. All GP's can do blood tests, but many GP's do not understand the full range of tests that are required. And the blood tests they suggest may not show the full picture. For example, if you told a GP you had weight loss issues and believe it may be thyroid or hormone related, they would ask for TSH for thyroid and testosterone count. These can come back fine, suggesting you do not have a problem - which may not be the case. GP's generally do not ask for RT3 count for thyroid, or LH/FSH count for testosterone - which can give a more in depth perspective of what is going on. You are better off seeing a specialist such as an Endocrinologist.
Anyway, I hope the information I have provided is of some use Mr Burns. Remember "Knowledge is power". No one expects you to be super strict or healthy every single day. When armed with knowledge, you can be a fit, healthy Mr Burns and still enjoy your food and alcohol.
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I don't know anything about the mountains of hill end, but I'd definitely say a wild boar. I actually go through quite a bit of chicken breast (3-4KG per week), unfortunately I don't have easy access to affordable wild meat.
Was that supposed to be a trick question?
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I Can relate to a lot of what you sat gav, I have a real desire to lose weight and have many reasons to do so, my willpower is spasmodic, I vacillate between strong and "oh well doesn't matter" I know from experience giving up smoking years ago that your mind plays tricks on you to let you do want you want, makes excuses, lessens resolve. "one cigarette wont hurt" " just one spring roll is ok" when neither are ok, but at the time you really believe it is, or you just suspend your resolve long enough to give in momentarily.
As I said earlier I do the shopping and cooking so it\s a bit harder , ever food shopped when you're hungry ? You arrive home with all the goodies that YOU like and of course you give in.
I'm not hugely fat but the extra weight makes me feel lousy, some people stack it on and feel fine not me.
I believe exercise is important but I believe what goes in your mouth is more important, my metabolism is low I guess so every bit of sugar or fat has full impact.
Thats why I lean toward kincellsas method of calorie restriction without compromise to break the back of it, if I can drop 5k I'll be well on my way to success, then of course I have to change to make it permanent, need to change the way I eat, for good.
Appreciate all the help and will continue trying.
Yeah I know "Just do it" (thats a great slogan)
As I said earlier I do the shopping and cooking so it\s a bit harder , ever food shopped when you're hungry ? You arrive home with all the goodies that YOU like and of course you give in.
I'm not hugely fat but the extra weight makes me feel lousy, some people stack it on and feel fine not me.
I believe exercise is important but I believe what goes in your mouth is more important, my metabolism is low I guess so every bit of sugar or fat has full impact.
Thats why I lean toward kincellsas method of calorie restriction without compromise to break the back of it, if I can drop 5k I'll be well on my way to success, then of course I have to change to make it permanent, need to change the way I eat, for good.
Appreciate all the help and will continue trying.
Yeah I know "Just do it" (thats a great slogan)
Burnsie....at least you know the pitfalls of shopping when hungry....so have that little bit of something first...so you are not hungry
Julia thanks for the explanation....I knew I may need more water.
everyone is very supportive....I like that attitude
Julia thanks for the explanation....I knew I may need more water.
everyone is very supportive....I like that attitude
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You have your own answer right there in that one statement, Mr B!
When I joined the Army in '69, I was already a moderately heavy smoker & weighed 86kg (6 feet 6 inch frame), at the lower range of what would be a healthy BMI (abt 90kg) for me.
When I gave up smoking 2-3 packs a day 28 years ago - using willpower alone - after a myriad of failed attempts trying to "cut back slowly", I weighed 90kg. Apart from realising my chronic coughing was some way related to my puffing, the final act that galvanised my willpower to STOP SMOKING was to buy a whole large carton of my favorite ciggies and methodically crush each one of those filthy cancer sticks and watch my hard-earned money (I was on a pretty paltry wage at the time) go into the garbage bin. It worked. Somehow I managed to deny all offers by friends and acquaintances of "just one, mate". Lost a few so-called "friends" in the process along the way, too. I had become too "anti-social" by continually refusing their "kind" offers. That was my introduction to one of the downsides of becoming a "social pariah" in the eyes of some of my acquaintances. I had become a "tobacco tee-totaller". Having realised I was really serious about quitting, my dear supportive wife also gave up puffing using "will-power" alone a week later. We have both NEVER touched one since.
However, we both still drank "moderately". Like yourself, as the years have passed (more swiftly over time it seems) the "bodily flab" spread silently, insidiously. Before I gave up the grog, I weighed around 110kg - well above my ideal BMI - and I was starting to feel the effects of dragging that weight around ie: more fatigue, nausea, reflux etc etc. So, we both decided to give up guzzling booze (ave. about 2 bots of wine a day between us) just over 2 years ago - using nothing but our tried & tested "will-power alone" method. I'll be damned, Mr B., but it actually worked! I managed to get back to 105kg just by that alone - no other change to lifestyle whatsoever. My better half also lost a few kilos, but she is much smaller than I so the loss was comparable. Of course, the social impact of going "tee-total" a second time was also noticeable. Not so many invites to parties, pubs etc, & when you DO manage to get an invite you cop the inevitable jibes. Meh. So be it. We had both determined our health was going to be the most important factor. More money in the pocket was a pleasant side benefit.
However, when I broke my ankle back in Aug/Sep and then my little toe in October last year, the recuperation and initial lack of much walking or cycling exercise took its toll on my weight again - I ballooned out to 112kg and felt terrible as I struggled to deal with it. I was suffering more and more from terrible reflux, heartburn, bouts of gas, constipation - you name it, man.
So, 2 months ago, at 112kg, I made the decision to change my lifestyle PERMANENTLY. So,
(1) Gave up drinking milk. Mainly herbal tea & occasional coffee, black.
(2) Gave up eating bread. Eat rice or corn thins if I have to as a substitute. Any bread made from processed flour / yeast has given me bad gas and bloating for years anyway.
(3) Gave up eating margarine or butter. Don't add any to cooked veg. Amazingly, raw veges taste BETTER now with NO added marg or butter!
(4) Started and have continued serving smaller portion sizes for dinner on SMALL plates. It works!
(5) Gave up regular once or twice a week "feel good" treats like desserts, cakes, chocolate. Now NEVER have at home - only have a small piece very rarely - eg if offered at a function or someone's birthday party. No need to offend completely!
Well, since starting that regime 2 months ago, I have lost an amazing 16kg! Back to 96 today! No change in my exercise routine (usually 45 mins of moderate walking each day if we can manage). I'm aiming for that 90kg mark and should be able to make slight adjustment to extra veges or fruit if I need to hold that weight. Of course, my dear wife has also agreed to come on this new healthier journey in our twilight years and has also dropped a size - almost two now! My, she looks so much... younger!
The reflux has almost gone completely, bloating is a thing of the too recent past, nausea - what's that?, MY KNEES feel 10 years younger - can walk up and down hills MUCH faster now.
So, there you have it Mr Burns. Willpower and ONLY willpower has and is working for us. Not to say everyone can do it. But crikey mate, we can't be unique? If WE can change our lifestyle permanently, then I'm sure YOU can do the same.
GOOD LUCK in your endeavour to dish some "tough love" to yourself. It's the best lovin' you will get.
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Hi Gav and thanks for the response, the reason i ask is because my bro inlaw along with many of his body building mates are dead set thinking that low fat is the only way to go, but little does he realise that the chicken he eats is low fat but contains alot of un-natural breeding techniques and chemicals of some form for faster production. You see for me i like natural food and id rather eat say pork chops from a wild boar (which is higher in fat content) but i know the fat is natural, untouched and the beast is untamped with compared to a chicken who is grown within a few weeks.
Im just trying to get healthy people's views on this, i mean in Italy they eat ****loads of pasta and consume lots of olive oil but the difference is the pasta is from the freshest source and the olive oil normally comes from a local farm (in certain parts of Italy especially the southern part). Now over there they have a very small obesity problem, and the reason is this: take away food is fresh pizza and other produce, you dont see subway,KFC etc.... (only the odd Mac's here and there for tourists). I noticed the other night on 60min a biotech food lady came on and said natural food is the best for you, forget low fat this, low carb that, GI free this etc....
I mean from 1950's and before what was wrong with the diet of most people? there was no fat epidemic etc... but i believe there wasnt much food commercialization either so the food came from local and fresh produce.
Your views?
grew up on the meat and 3 veg plan...with dessert every night...home made of course...sunday roast, trifle, apple pie...scones etc
I dont eat chicken...believe there is too much other stuff in there, and the size of some in safeway looks more like a turkey....but La Ionica have free range chickens...all natural and they look like the tiny little things we used to have on our farm...ie normal sized chooks and chicken.
since the family grew up and moved away...no longer have the meat and 3 vegies...
had an active lifestyle living on a farm...so could eat as much as I wanted...
hardly ever ate between meals...just looked forward to the good stuff
saw an article once...eating an extra slice of bread a day or was it a week, can add 5 kgs a year...agree get rid of the bread, and any of those cardboard snacks..and nothing in between meals
http://www.laionica.com.au/main.html
I dont eat chicken...believe there is too much other stuff in there, and the size of some in safeway looks more like a turkey....but La Ionica have free range chickens...all natural and they look like the tiny little things we used to have on our farm...ie normal sized chooks and chicken.
since the family grew up and moved away...no longer have the meat and 3 vegies...
had an active lifestyle living on a farm...so could eat as much as I wanted...
hardly ever ate between meals...just looked forward to the good stuff
saw an article once...eating an extra slice of bread a day or was it a week, can add 5 kgs a year...agree get rid of the bread, and any of those cardboard snacks..and nothing in between meals
http://www.laionica.com.au/main.html
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