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Alasdair Macleod has recently voiced some concerns with the budget outlook for the UK Government.

Tax payers leaving the UK and a socialist government unwilling to cut spending = :-( is the equation.

He also has some interesting thoughts on Gold later in the podcast, mentioning Frank Veneroso's 2002 analysis on gold leasing(rabbit hole warning).





If either Ray Dalio or text is more your thing, Ray concurs.


www.theguardian.com

UK is stuck in a ‘debt doom loop’, says top investor

Hedge fund chief Ray Dalio warns over public finances, saying Britain will be forced into spending cuts and tax rises
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Great posts . I haven't got time to reply as nasdaq opening in 12 minutes bt agree. UK is in a very bad place. In every way.

gg
 
moXJO said:
We hear a lot about Trump, but the socialists in the UK are some of the biggest retards to hit the political scene. Not enough mentioned about them.
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i'm not sure they socialists are the biggest problem - they at least pretend to put the nation first.

The elites are in with the money - Arab and E Europe - and the culture war worm has burrowed into the brains of many. Legal(ism) absurdities abound.
 
Dona Ferentes said:
i'm not sure they socialists are the biggest problem - they at least pretend to put the nation first.

The elites are in with the money - Arab and E Europe - and the culture war worm has burrowed into the brains of many. Legal(ism) absurdities abound.
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what!!!
Not sure I get the
"i'm not sure they socialists are the biggest problem - they at least pretend to put the nation first."
Where in the world and the last 20 year has any socialist even pretended to put the nation first? let alone the UK of all places?
You mean Labour position on brexit, immigration, islam takeover, ethnic rape hiding there?
Nation, flag, identity and own culture are all absolute horrors for 2025 socialists.
Socialism and communism by nature and definition is boundary free and class defined.
Which is a quite respectable POV by the way.
And which is why it is the tool of the globalists a la WEF to take control on nations..not to save the proletariat 😂
"Nation first" is labelled nazi and the trade mark of anti socialist movements all over the west.
 
qldfrog said:
the hypocrisy of the main western nations most dreaming to be that "bad":
www.nationthailand.com

IMF advises Thailand to reinstate 60% debt ceiling

The IMF has recommended that Thailand reduce public debt to below 60% of GDP over the medium term and reinstate the 60% ceiling to preserve fiscal space for future crises.
www.nationthailand.com www.nationthailand.com
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i know it is a bit away from uk specifics but give you an idea of the arrogance of our positions (us aka west powers)
 
flagellation

The IMF is a global organization that works to achieve sustainable growth and prosperity for all of its 191 member countries. It does so by supporting economic policies that promote financial stability and monetary cooperation, which are essential to increase productivity, job creation, and economic well-being. The IMF is governed by and accountable to its member countries.
 
moXJO said:
We hear a lot about Trump, but the socialists in the UK are some of the biggest retards to hit the political scene. Not enough mentioned about them.
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NORMALLY the Socialists have some hope of getting out of such a mess by appealing to the masses ( workers and other income folk ) to tighten their belt a little and help relieve economic bottlenecks ( fix roads , rails and water supply , etc )

but this lot just reek of hypocrisy , and sadly stumbled into a scenario of unrestrained power ( which they are gleefully abusing )

i can't foresee a happy future for the UK in say the next ten years ( the smart money is leaving already )
 
Dona Ferentes said:
i'm not sure they socialists are the biggest problem - they at least pretend to put the nation first.
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it doesn't seem to be the case for 'never here Keir ' and that is what UK detractors call him ( and his knighthood probably doesn't help his relationship with the financially stressed )

i could lob in Macron and Merz to the trio of disaster who should manage to ravage Europe
 
mullokintyre said:
From Michael Arout
Forecasted government spending vs revenue. The UK is simply toasted. How did it happen?
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What are these forecasts based on?

Putin and Trump have forced Europe to increase defence spending.

Would the Conservatives decrease defence spending and look weak in the face of a Russian threat?

I doubt it.
 
SirRumpole said:
What are these forecasts based on?

Putin and Trump have forced Europe to increase defence spending.

Would the Conservatives decrease defence spending and look weak in the face of a Russian threat?

I doubt it.
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Does it really matter whether it was forced by Trump or whether it was a conservative or labour or someone else.
The bottom line is they are inline to increase debt to levels that rival the US.
It will kill off whats left of the empire.
Mick
 
mullokintyre said:
Does it really matter whether it was forced by Trump or whether it was a conservative or labour or someone else.
The bottom line is they are inline to increase debt to levels that rival the US.
It will kill off whats left of the empire.
Mick
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both the UK and France are bankrupt with no hope whatsoever to get out of the pit.
the US is probably in the same situation but Trump is trying something..i personally doubt he will succeed but there is a non null chance the US could make it.
Honestly, in such a case, what can anyone do? Damage is done,
past historical solutions were reset via war or revolution, default or and currency devaluation...
 
mullokintyre said:
Does it really matter whether it was forced by Trump or whether it was a conservative or labour or someone else.
The bottom line is they are inline to increase debt to levels that rival the US.
It will kill off whats left of the empire.
Mick
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Well I wonder whether debt matters anymore.

The US has had a massive debt since Reagan and still they carry on.

Maybe it will all come to a head one day, but as in France, anyone who tries to do something about it gets thrown out when the masses see their taxes going up.
 
I would never bet against the Brits say what you like but the US never came close to the ruthless required to rule an empire.
The English are far tougher than any yank red neck.
 
SirRumpole said:
Well I wonder whether debt matters anymore.

The US has had a massive debt since Reagan and still they carry on.

Maybe it will all come to a head one day, but as in France, anyone who tries to do something about it gets thrown out when the masses see their taxes going up.
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so the inflation plus border closure attempt by Trump.
is there any other way?
even if budgets were balanced expenses/income, the sheer levels of debt interests destroy any hope to have a reduced debt by year end...
so just let inflation run
 
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